Ariel Stain Remover - yet another un needed product?

[aquarius1984]

I dont follow Chris tbh.

Smells can be caused by anything unrelated to the choice of her detergent and whether its NB or biological.

Bacteria and scents cause and control odours. Bleachy detergents will remove the bacteria causing smells provided one follows proper laundry habits.

Biological powders generally have much stronger scents, scents that cover up and mask issues not to solve them should the powder be lets say manufactured by unscrupulous companies.

Perhaps her machine has a build up of gunk inside, this would not help the odours on her clothes. Dirty powder drawers and mouldy FS compartments all flush bacteria into clean washing in the last rinses.

Clothes not dried as rapidly as one would like, on a clothes airer for 2 days subject to bacteria in the air can cause odour problems as can leaving clothing in warm damp machines for a few hours after the cycle is finshed.

Cooking smells wafting through the house can also permeate garments,

Perhaps your sister under doses on powder. This certainly dosnt help.

Too many factors can be plussed in as to why her laundry would not be as pleasant as yours may be so its unwise to go blaming powders unless one is sure that they are to blame.

 

[hoover1100]

non-bio

Whilst I don't argue that it cleans considerably worse than bio detergents, some non-bio's do clean better than some bio's, I believe serves no purpose.

It seems to only be in the UK that we have been conned into beleiving that enzymes will harm your skin, as I said before it has been proven that enzymes do not harm your skin, it is infact strong perfumes, dyes and OBA's that can cause harm.

Everywhere else in the world "sensitive" detergents are the same as regular ones but without scents or dyes, much more sensible in my opinion and actually most likely better for senstive skin.

It just seems stupid to me that people are coerced into using Fairy for baby and sensitive skin, when it foams up loads, is terrible to rinse out, strongly scented and the gels and such are loaded with optical brightners.

Nothing I've used can compare to ariel bio or febreeze effect powder and tablets, and I couldn't recommend anything else to people if asked, apart from the colour version for coloureds obviously

Matt

 

[newwave1]

Ohhh dear. Another item for my every growing detergent stock lol. Though i don't think its necessary as Ariel is amazing by itself...buuuut i'd hate to not have some just incase ;-)

Love the packaging! I'm also excited at thought of it smelling like 80's Ariel like Rob said!

Ariel excel gel. I swear by the stuff! Combined with steam washing results are flawless. I have Ariel in just about every format at the moment lol.

I have noticed that Both the bio and colour gels contain Optical Brighteners. Having read the Which review it They said whites were white and colours were bright and didnt fade!

So on that advice i bought a big bottle of the febreze variant.

Bio Vs Non bio. Hmmm I wash my 2 children under twos clothes in bio detergents. Neither of them have ever had a skin reaction. Perhaps it's because Daddy is very particular with rinsing. The LG can do up to 5rinses, but the jet is really powerful and i've found the usual 3 to do just fine. My Mum has used Persil Non-bio for fricken years since it first came out. It used to take a hell of a lot of pursuation for us to buy some ariel as a treat, but my dad has really sensitive skin and complains like mad if he sees the detergent has changed!

Shame really as i want to convert her to Ariel. Persil non bio fades darks badly and leaves streaks on stuff. The day i moved out i programmed Rinse Plus in perminantly on her AEG to make sure it stood half a chance. Bless the old dear stuck in her ways. She has a soaking programme but still does it in the sink lol.

Darren

 

[paulc]

Thanks Darren

I was begining to doubt my sanity as I was sure Ariel Excel Colour Gel contained OBA's!!

 

[launderess]

Main Reason "Non-Bio" Detergents Have So Much Noise

If that is the proper word, is a little event in the UK's past.

Sevearl decades ago now, Persil decided it would cease producing non-enzyme detergents, and focus totally on what they considered state of the market and future for laundry detergents, those with enzymes.

Well, from the way some mothers and others with skin "issues" revolted,you would have thought Persil was going on some sort of baby killing spree.

There were protests in the media, and so forth, so in short order Persil gave in and that is why you see the large "bio" vs "non-bio" market in the UK.

Now in other places most TOL, MOL and even BOL detergents all contain enzymes, and there does not seem to be any huge outbreaks of skin conditions. However for some reason many in the UK think enzymes are bad or at least shouldn't be in detergents for infants or children.

Myself cannot understand this rationale. Infants and children are prone by nature to create the very laundry soils/stains that require enzymes to remove properly. Everything from goo,poo,spew stains, to custard and all the rest...

Now in the early days of enzyme detergents there were reports of skin and breathing reactions, however they affected mainly the workers in plants producing these products.

 

[paulc]

Launderess

My Dad worked for Lever Brothers in the 60's in the plant that produced Omo....he had to leave as he was severely alergic to what ever ingredients they used. Ever since my Mum avoids Bio products. I have, on occasions where Mum's washer has broke down, had to do he laundry in bio detergent...with no adverse effect.

 

[newwave1]

Launderess-As i said before, i have washed my two babies clothes in bio detergents. Aslong as you have a machine that rinses well you can use anything!

Paulc-I remember reading the first batch of excel gel ingredients are being shocked as the colour gel had Optical brighteners and previous ariel colour did not. I had worried my black clothes would suffer but they don't seem to be!

Darren

 

[rolls_rapide]

Ohhh!

I saw this in Tesco, today. They were flogging large boxes of Ariel powder with a free sample taped to the front.

According to the ingredient label, greater than 30% is oxygen based bleaching agent. So it is a competitor to Vanish.

I just wish that Reckitt-Benkiser would launch a general purpose powder detergent, that smelled subtly nice, to compete against P&G.

 

[aquarius1984]

In use,

Got a few grotty cleaning cloths and bath mats along with a couple of towels.

 

[aquarius1984]

Not the biggest load and nowhere near what id call a full load but should be able to put it to the rinse test.

 

[aquarius1984]

50mls Almat Biological. That stuff foams like mad but cleans reasonably well alone.

30mls Ariel SR.

 

[aquarius1984]

Add to drawer.... will it flush out?

P&G seem to have problems lately with Daz, Bold, Fairy leaving powder in the drawer. Not the machine either. Happens on 3 different ones I know of.
Pauls Mums Indepoint,
the old Indesit
The new Hottie.

Yes it flushed!

 

[aquarius1984]

Which wash?

Do I do a 40 with Economy to get a 30 deg?
60 deg with Economy?

straight 60deg as I normally would?

 

[aquarius1984]

habits die hard.

No buttons selected.

Dont want those nasty odours in my towels.

 

[aquarius1984]

Washing

No suds. Seems to have also supressed suds from the Aldi stuff.

 

[aquarius1984]

fully soaked

 

[aquarius1984]

Will update as the water gets hotter and machine goes into rinse.

Im expecting the suds to come out of hiding!

 

[aquarius1984]

Wash ended 6 minutes ago, not had chance to snap any pics due to housemates decding to do a spot of cooking. Typical really isnt it but I just went back to the machine and discovered the items didnt feel particularly well rinsed so re set it for final rinse with super rinse selected.

Water was clear in the rinse and low amounts of foam on top.

Machine has just gone into spin and now there is soapy foam cascading down the door bowl. Unsure as to if its residue from the SR????

God knows. Not a product id particularly buy. Stain removal is no better than what a wash win Ariel powder would of achieved first time.

 

[paulc]

Well.......

I bought the "whitening" version of this......have tried it 3 times with a full load of white towels and 25 mls of Ariel Exel gel and on each occasion have got massive suds lock, one time the suds came out of the dispenser which has NEVER happened in my Miele before. I agree with Rob, not a product I would buy again as you can get the same results with Ariel powder. Just wish the powder smelled the same as the stain remover!!!!

 

[rolls_rapide]

I was wondering...

...if it is possible to use it entirely on its own: i.e. used as an ultra-concentrated detergent?

As to the foaming issues, I have had this with Vanish powder and Ace liquid.

 

[aquarius1984]

Callum,

I had about the same idea so gave it a whirl. Cant say I would want to bother again.

Just started up a load of work shirts and added 30 mls of the powder, watched the machine tumble a few times then chickened out as there was no suds and nothing to suggest anything may be clean. Water was cloudy by all means but didnt feel particularly soapy when I opened the door to inspect.

I would of left the machine to its own devices but the fact the water didnt feel soapy I doubt it would of gotten the grease stain out from yesterdays lucnh off one of the t shirts so I lobbed in half a cap of Daz 2X liquid.

Expecting suds lock later and re setting for rinsing though desopite the small load.

 

[aquarius1984]

Tumbles with just the SR.

 

[aquarius1984]

Really didnt feel like much was going on

 

[aquarius1984]

For information, I have found the flower power Daz liquid to have a scent not to dissimilar to 80s Persil liquid.

 

[hoover1100]

Mother bought some the other day

tried it out myself today.

Cleans well, no better than ariel alone.

BUT

took 6 deep rinses to get the water clear, and even then there was loads of like zeolite-foam.

The smell is really something else though!

Matt

 

[aquarius1984]

gentle tumbles in the heating stage. 40deg Acrylics.

Few suds due to the addition of Daz on top of the water. I can rest in peace for a while.

 

[aquarius1984]

Did someone mention 80s Persil liquid???

Look what Postman Pat delivered this week! LOL

 

[servisslimline]

aquarius1984

what happened to the hoover that you were using as your daily driver after your indesit went?

 

[electradeluxe]

i've found that using ariel gel alone wasn't shifting tough stains on the baby's clothes and other items,but when i added the ariel stain remover and washed on 40c it worked a treat! smells great too!

 

[launderess]

Ariel "Excel" Gel

Same here.

While the product does do a decent enough job shifting stains/soils, something simply require bleaching to totally remove.

Case in point did a table cloth last night in "AEG" and while some stains were totally gone, red wine stains didn't shift all the way, so had to rewash with a bit of oxygen bleach.

Will say that if one uses an "activated" oxygen bleach, or at least sodium percarbonate (works in cool or cold water), and Ariel Excel Gel, one does not need to go above 100F really to get things CLEAN. Will let the Miele do a tap cold fill and set the temp dial to "100F" then let the machine and products to their thing. Everything comes out clean, bright and "Alpine Fresh".