Larry~ my dear...
I get the impression by the tone of your response, you thought I was insulting you by disagreeing with you on Ariel Oxy Azul Max.
I know several people, including AndrewinOrlando, who love Ariel Oxy Azul Max and swear by it. I bought one bag, used it one time on my whites and wasn't impressed. Maybe it is my water, who knows. I had to pre-treat and re-wash my whites with TWB Powder.
My new favorite right now is FOCA..I am using that on white towels with LCB and find it to be amazing!