Bob Load Hobart style

[stopmeister72]

The Machine - Hobart WM5H - 150 degree wash, 180 degree rinse (min) cycle about 2 minutes.

 

[stopmeister72]

the culprits

lots of big dirty dishes

 

[stopmeister72]

the rest

more stuff

 

[stopmeister72]

the wash water

yuck!

 

[stopmeister72]

rinse temp

up to about 195 degrees
notice in the first pic there is a little toggle switch I installed on the left of the temp dial, I use it to stop the timer anywhere in the cycle so let it wash about an hour ( i don't like to pre-rinse)

 

[stopmeister72]

yea!

all clean!

 

[appnut]

John, ya definitely have received the BobLoad certification. I love the cool afermarket timer enhancement.

 

[stopmeister72]

Thanks man! You just can't forget to turn the timer off while it is filling or you get a big mess on the floor, not that I have done that <innocent face>. I like it so I can actually make it fill up more during the first flush - purge whatever you want to call it so I can get 2 rinses. TXU loves me for it since it uses more power than the a/c or the hottub combined. You should see the thing spin on the electric meter.
I have some video on a dead hard drive, so If i can't get that recovered will make some more, it's fun to watch!!

 

[DADoES]

Wow!

 

[appnut]

Yeah, I was wondering about the juice consumption lol.

 

[retromom]

Hobart - STEELS - The Show!

Hey John!

Howdy from another in the Texas contingent! All I can say is WOW! That beautiful stainless Hobart is to die for!!

Excuse my ignorance, but is this considered a commercial dishwasher?

My "No-prerinse-o-phobia" kicked in when I saw the "before" load! Bob, quick...calm my nerves and reassure me that it's ok not to pre-rinse! ;-)

 

[appnut]

Den Mother, prerinsing is evil!! Prrinsing is evil!!! It is OK to put scungy dishare in your dishwasher!!

 

[stopmeister72]

yup, it's commercial

You guys are great! Retromom, it is a commercial machine. The motor, pump, washarms, and body are just like the Kitchenaids of the same vintage but the body is in stainless steel. In fact, when i need pump parts, I usually get kitchenaid and put a Kitchenaid motor on cause Hobart wants 2-3x as much for them. 37 max amps on a 240 volt circuit. I got this for 150 bucks with the dayschool at the church was remodeling. I was working there when they got this machine, I got the even older hobart too, but the timer died many years ago and got rid of it (stupid me). This one gave them alot of problems so they finally got a Jackson (not as good). I have replaced the motor, pump, timer, booster element in the past couple of years so pretty much it is in really good shape now. The reason they got rid of it was because a seam on the corner of the booster heater split, but with the help of my dad and a welder we got it fixed. Should have alot of life left. You can find these on ebay all the time. I have seen one go for almost the cost of what this one was new which was about 2100.00 This particular models can come without a booster heater and run on 120 volt and use bleach for sanitization, but I like hot water!!!!!! So there energystar!!!!!!!!!!! The new Hobart Sr24 machines have almost identical pumps to this one but made of a different type of plastic. This one tends to warp over time.
You can find user manuals and parts manuals on the hobart website. Kind of fun to look. The models like WMES2 had the really old Kithenaid body style. If you go into the "smartparts" you kind find tons of info.
Anybody like mixers? I have some info that Kitchenaid sent me awhile back of the history of their mixers. Will be a while before I can get them on. Have fun y'all.

http://www.hobartservice.com/parts/

 

[cehalstead]

pre-rinse phobia

You can do it, retromom, I know you can....just tip off the large scraps and load them in the machine, turn it on, and slllloooooowwwwwwwlllllllyyyyyyy walk away......you'll be amazed at how clean the dishes are and how much hot water you save....

 

[pturo]

I think we should tell people with newer dishwashers that if they rinse and there is no food to grind, the internal food disposer will atrophy, rust and spread to the entire mechanism. The internal food disposer in a dishwasher needs food to chew to sharpen it's blades and the residue forms a colonic fiber cleaning to the pump and inner workings as it was designed to do. Too well rinsed dishes cause atrophy in the pump with the new detergents and and motor, causing costly repairs and dishwasher constipation.(Wink) "Scrape off anything big, like a turkey carcass, load the thing, hit on, and hope for the best" Peg Bracken, 1967, 'I Hate to Housekeep'." Now if she were alive would probably do some laundry in our new technolgy dishwashers that heat water, have multiple arms and sprays and are as quiet as kitten.

 

[danemodsandy]

Peg Bracken IS still alive, still funny as hell, and still writing. I was asked to do an NPR interview about her a few weeks ago; I can let you know when it's to air soon.

To everyone who doesn't know about Peg: she wrote one of 1960's runaway bestsellers, titled "The I Hate to Cook Book". She followed it up with "The I Hate to Housekeep Book", "The Appendix to the I Hate to Cook Book", and "I Try to Behave Myself", which was an etiquette guide. Every one of them is funny, the recipes and tips work, and all the books are illustrated by Hilary Knight, who drew Kay Thompson's "Eloise". Doesn't get any better than that. Search eBay for a selection of Peg's books.

 

[pturo]

Wow, thanks for that update! I gotta know when you air that! She is really funny, and practical and elegant at the same time, and I think practical and elegant belong in the same sentence.

 

[stopmeister72]

last load for the night

Been cooking the last 4 1/2 hours and this is the last load, got everything crammed in so I'm done for the night.
Sweet dreams y'all. In case you're wanting to know what I cooked here goes -
full pot of beef stew in the canner size pressure cooker, 2 Italian cream cakes, 2 doz chocolate dipped strawberries, a quadruple batch of cornbread and 16 large chocolate chip cookies. Some for camping and the rest for some friends of mine. By the way they both have just been diagnosed with cancer, the husband lung and the wife breast - so please keep them in your prayers!!!!!!!

 

[stopmeister72]

inside

one more view, night night

 

[pturo]

Those peaks look like the roof of the Denver airport!

 

[frigilux]

I hate washing pastry bags----what a clever way to do it! Are the bags inside vertical roasting cones?

 

[cvillewasherbo]

top spray arm

My church has 3 of these Hobart's but none of them have a spray arm on the top, just the bottom one. I guess they're older. When they're used the plates are rinsed off and the silverware has been soaking. They also use the original Cascade (with bleach--a particularly terrific "smell memory" for me. You can buy the original cascade from Sysco Food Services.
Courtney

 

[exploder3211]

I've always wanted to see one of these..Thanks for the pics

 

[sudsmaster]

Did Hobart ever make clothes washers?

 

[appnut]

Rich, no.

 

[tomturbomatic]

Actually, pumps don't atrophy and the soft food disposer does not die from lack of fiber when dishes are rinsed before going into the dw. The main thing that happens when dishes are hand rinsed to the point of almost being clean before being loaded into the dw is that unless only a small amount of detergent is used, the caustic components of the detergent have no organic matter to work on and no grease to emulsify so they go to work on the dishwasher parts. Any vinyl or rubber-like components like rack coatings, seals and gaskets have the essential oils in them pulled out by the rich detergent solution leading to the racks rusting when the vinyl covering them is damaged, leaks developing when seals and gaskets turn hard, split or get eaten away, often allowing water to leak into the motor, and ruin the bearings or short out the windings. Water can wind up other places like in between the inner and outer door panels when the gasket around the detergent dispenser allows leaking. Sometimes the water can leak onto electrical components like the terminals on the dispenser or in a vulnerable place like where the wiring harness passes from beneath the door to the components beneath the tank. This is the place that the wires have to flex each time the door is opened or closed. If the insulation of the wires or the plastic guard that is supposed to surround the harness at this location gets brittle from leaking caustic detergent solution, the wires can short against each other or the frame. When this happens, the resulting short can burn a hole through the door's aluminum front panel before the circuit breaker trips, unless the breaker is rated for too high for the usual 15 amp dw circuit, in which case you can have a fire. Dishes should either be rinsed in the machine using Rinse & Hold or if they are throughly rinsed because it takes a week to accumulate enough dishes to wash, use the minimum amount of detergent in the main wash only.

 

[stopmeister72]

replies

C'Villewasherbo, 3 of them?? COOL! I had an older one as well it only had one on the bottom. They are like the really older kitchenaids, When Kitchenaid/Hobart changed the pump and body is when this model came out with the wash arm on top and the Kitchenaids before Whirlpool had the wash arm for the top rack. Think those older older ones use about 4 1/2 gallons of water per rack, this model uses less becuase it uses the rinse water for the next wash. Frigilux, I always hated washing pasty bags too and had always wished I had something like those to put them in the dishwasher. I was ordering some extra racks for a dehydrator from Nesco and they had those on closeout really cheap, just a few bucks a piece so I got 10 of them. They are for those american harvest cenvection ovens. Only thing, don't let the bags stay on too longs after they are washed becuase they can leave rust spots from the joints where the wires are connected.