Clorox oxygen

[justjunque]

Hey all,

We just discovered this product somewhat recently. I forget exactly what it's called. It may be called a whitener or brightener or something like that.
It's in a black bottle, if memory serves, and "Clorox" and "Oxygen" are prominently displayed. It's a thick liquid. I think it's around a 20 ounce bottle. I had started using it in place of chlorine bleach in my white batches, as well as using it in my light/bright colors. I don't know how effective it was, but I felt like I was doing something beneficial by using it. Like; it couldn't hurt. You can also apply it directly to stains.
All of a sudden, we can't find it in stores anywhere.
A few questions:
Has anyone else used it? Do you like it? Have you been able to find it in stores lately? Can anyone recommend something else, preferably readily available, and simple to use, that's good for brightening whites and colors?
Thanks so much!

Barry

 

[pulltostart]

Barry,

It shows up on the Clorox website.

 

lawrence

https://www.clorox.com/products/clorox-2-active-oxygen-ultra-stain-remover-color-booster/unscented/

 

[launderess]

Clorox has been making liquid oxygen (hydrogen peroxide based), for decades; going back to 1970's or maybe 1980's IIRC. Product was a companion to Clorox II oxygen bleach powder which was meant to compete with Biz which by then was an enzyme based oxygen bleach "pre-soaker" then laundry additive.

Consumer Reports tested liquid oxygen bleaches back in 1970's or 1980's (Clorox, Snowy, Vivid...), and found by and large none of them worked well as powdered oxygen bleach, and there is a good reason.

Liquid hydrogen peroxide long a stable in commercial/industrial laundries needs an alkaline pH and hot (140 or above) water temperatures to really give good results.

Of course Clorox and others advertised these oxygen bleaches as safe for colours because few if anyone is going to wash those things in hot or boil wash temperatures.

 

[tomturbomatic]

I'll bet it says nothing about disinfecting. Stupid shoppers who can't or don't read just saw CLOROX and bought it up.

 

[launderess]

Whitening & Brightening

Claims came from fact Clorox liquid oxygen bleaches contained optical brightening agents. Yes, the oxygen bleach by removing stains and so forth (in theory anyway) would result in a "brighter" wash, but OBAs were thrown in for good measure.

One benefit of using liquid oxygen bleach versus powder is that there is less risk of marks/discoloration from undissolved product coming into contact with wash.

While oxygen based bleaches are in theory "safe for colors", you don't really want them to come into contact undiluted. When using such products for stain removal you'll find a warning on packet about testing for color fastness.

Given today's puny water levels and cooler temps there is a chance any sort of bleaching powder might remain undissolved in drum to cause spots.

 

[chachp]

OxiClean?

 

<span style="font-family: helvetica;">What are experts thoughts on OxiClean?  In 2002 I bought a BOSCH Front Load washer and was told using LCB in this machine would void the warranty.  I know we have had discussions about that in the past and I'm still not clear why that was but that doesn't really matter at this point.</span>

 

<span style="font-family: helvetica;">Since then I have been using OxiClean powder with great results but I have always used it in at least warm water but usually in a sanitary cycle with my whites.  Since I got the Miele set I have been using the UltraPhase 1 and 2 pair with really good results.  I think the UltraPhase 2 uses an oxygen bleach of some kind.</span>

 

<span style="font-family: helvetica;">Until I joined this club I always thought I had to use LCB to disinfect laundry.  I've learned a lot since then.  I no longer look to any laundry product to disinfect my laundry but instead I look to the temperature of the water to disinfect.  Is that wrong?  </span>

 

[justjunque]

Tom,

That thought had certainly crossed my mind.
All Clorox, or chlorine bleach is difficult to come by these days; at least around my area. Strangely enough, Home Depot had quite a bit of it the last time I was there.
But, as you said, I don't think this product makes any claims of disinfecting.

Barry

 

[combo52]

Disinfecting Laundry

You would have to put your clothing in a pressure cooker and take it to 15 pounds of pressure 250F to disinfect as well as properly used LCB in the washer does.

 

John L.

 

[launderess]

This is not true

There are other ways...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6600116/

https://www.gurtler.com/site/wp-content/uploads/Gurtler-Healthcare-Supplement-June-2014.pdf

This being said it can be nearly impossible to attack serious germs with today's modern energy efficient washers. They don't reach high enough temperatures, hold same for long enough periods of time, and their design is just not helping.

Washing Machine Spreads a Superbug to Newborns in Strange German Hospital Case

Plenty of clothes can be washed perfectly well at cold temperatures - the more sustainable option when it comes to doing your laundry.

www.sciencealert.com

https://www.praxisdienst.com/en/Hygiene/Disinfectants/Detergent+Disinfectant/Eltra+Detergent+Disinfectant.html

 

[combo52]

LCB will kill all common household germs etc easily if used properly, Oxygen bleaches will not and again to actually sterilize clothing you have to use live steam and reach temperatures over 250F which can only be done in a pressure  cooker type device..

 

John 

 

[launderess]

Sterilize, disinfect and sanitize mean three different things.

Not even laundry treated with chlorine bleach is "sterilized", hence hospitals put certain linens (L&D, OR, for immune compromised,etc..." through autoclave *AFTER* is has been laundered, dried and finished.

Next not all chlorine bleaches sold for domestic or even institutional use nowadays "disinfect". If the product does not have an EPA register number then it won't be of much us in that direction no matter how much of it you use.

Indeed if you look at various containers of not just Clorox but other chlorine bleaches there won't be a word about "disinfection", sanitation or even mold removal/control. These are same products that lack EPA registration number.

There is just enough chlorine in such products to remove stains/whiten, that's it. This makes them less aggressive to both fabrics and other things attacked by chlorine bleach (which is corrosive), but useless for purposes of this thread.

 

[combo52]

LCB

I don't know what kind of cheap bleach you are buying Launderess, But the expensive stuff I buy at Aldi does everything you list.

 

John 

 

[launderess]

Well Mr. Clever Chops if you knew anything about me at all would also know do not use chlorine bleach, nor have gone near in decades. So that's me for you....

Merely pointed out facts. But am so happy that you have found yourself an E.P.A registered chlorine bleach. Knock yourself out......[this post was last edited: 9/24/2020-19:47]

 

[DADoES]

 
There are name-brand chlorine bleach products that are for cleaning/whitening and deodorizing ... and specifically state that they are not for sanitizing/disinfecting.  Many consumers won't catch the disclaimer ... which may be on the back label, not the front.