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my tuppence worth...

I don't have a paypal account and I'm reluctant to open one. I never give my bank account details over the net and I don't wish to. I also don't like regular periodic payments, I'd prefer to send Robert maybe $20 a year than $1 a month. More to help with running costs than to buy entry into an open discussion forum.

I am a very political person, I love a political discussion and to me it would be a pity to remove political and religious discussions, though I concede it may be necessary for peaceful and smooth operation of this great website.

I like Louis's suggestion about a separate group (like a google group) for these more diverse discussions - something that Robert doesn't have to administer. That group should still have some rules about keeping a discussion civil and not offensive - no sexually explicit or suggestive language, no personal attacks or put-downs. we should be able to have a sensible discussion without getting nasty, shouldn't we?

I was always impressed with the logic of a comment I heard years ago - " I strongly disagree with what you say, but I strongly support your right to say it." Just because someone has an opinion or makes a comment you disagree with doesn't license you to rip into them. KEEP YOURSELF NICE!

I also thought the discussion on health reform a while ago was very interesting, it was quite political but informative too and it would be a shame if that were canned altogether, though that might make a good topic for discussion on an external group.

I would NOT like to see an "open slather" group, either a revised, no rules super forum or an external one. We should be able to discuss things in a mature manner, respect diverse opinions and try not to tread on each other's toes. I do not want to read any more childish name calling, vitriolic attacks or monotonously steering a variety of discussions around to the same old verbal ping pong matches.

Thanks Robert.

Chris.
 
Oh, and I'd love an edit button too - to correct mistakes, or to delete a whole post if I change my mind about it. The EDIT option would only work for the original poster - ie: I could only edit my own posts, not other peoples' posts.

(I also frequent a French car enthusiasts forum and they have that option.)

(sorry Robert, more code...)

Chris.
 
Robert I know you will do what's best for us all. I am thankful to have found a place where I can talk to and learn from people who enjoy the same things I do. Through this great website you have created I have found the vacuum collectors club, Rotaryphone and many other great sites I probably would have never found on my own. I really enjoy seeing other peoples collections and seeing the new items they have brought in thrifting and through other sales. I would have never imagined finding such wonderful like-minded people if it hadn't been for this site. I'm sure I speak for a few others when I say we greatly appreciate your time and dedication and wisdom both on and through this site. I hope it continues many many more years!
 
Robert, thanks for running this forum, it's clearly a real labour of love and it's very much appreciated.

Although a fourth forum would be ideal, I think the idea of making the Super a premium one seems to be a good compromise. A dollar a month is nothing, although can I suggest yearly memberships instead? $12 a year is good value and easily affordable, and yearly payments would mean less admin involved.

It's almost inevitable that forums can get heated, particularly where personal beliefs are concerned; what one person may consider innocuous may cause outrage in someone with different views, stir in a bit of Online disinhibition effect (see the link) and off it goes... Some perfectly nice, reasonable people can change behind the wheel of a car, and the same thing can happen with a keyboard. That doesn't make it right, but everyone has the potential to be fallable regarding something...

By the way Robert, have you ever considered running advertising on the site? I know not everyone approves of doing it, but I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to earn from the site; after all, you put enough work into it!

But whatever happens, I'm glad you're still happy to be webmaster, aw.org is invaluable for us lot, and a great information resource for non collectors too!

 
Please Please Please!

Robert
If at all possible please NEVER have commercial advertising on this site, it is one of the (many) joys of automaticwasher do be able to browse though the postings WITHOUT having pop ups jumping all over the screen and my computer constantly bleeping at me about blocked downloads.

I have NO problem at all with craigslist/ebay items being highlighted to the membership in general, nor any problem with anyone would advertises vintage appliances they are thinning out from their collections - indeed I only wish I were closer sometimes to take advantage of them.

Sorry Simon - we will have to agree to disagree on this one :)

Al
 
To Robert

Is this normal?
coming Eventually, the New and “Improved” Super Forum
Is it just me or is it a really weird typo?
 
No worries!

Like I said in my posting, what one person thinks, someone else might not agree with! I'm happy to agree to disagree ;-)
 
My 3 cents is, it's a waste of time. There are plenty of forums online if you want sex, politics, a soapbox to rant on, guns, cars and everything else. IMO, if you want this to be a site that someone's 14yr old can read, then don't make this a site that includes a forum that's unrelated.

This is an amazing one-of-a-kind website, and I'd suggest paring it down to just what it's about. You've got 3 forums that cover the gamut from old appliances to look-what-I-found-estate-saling-today. That should be "it."

But it's your site, and you've got the vision for it, not me. My opinion is based on owning/running/moderating 3 online forums. A 5 year old could read our stuff....so could someone's 90 year old grandmother. Some might think, "How lame is that?" But you know what, it's actually kinda nice. Everyone's very nice to each other, there's no bad language, or even and representation of language, and no one's on a band wagon or soapbox. One group has been online since '97, so it seems to work.
 
Forgot to add.

Im disagreeing with Robert, If you gonna need to pay to use some Off-topic forum, a lot of ppl would leave.
 
hmmmm..I have to agree that it seems to me that there are only a few people here that abuse the super forum to the point of hurting others, using bad names, badgering or whatever. Those of us who read it all the time know who you are and YOU KNOW who you are...............I think its pitful that Robert has to stand in like this and try to take charge, his job is big enough and now here it has lead to him feeling like he needs to make it bigger, take on more,make it better and safer...........makes you wonder when it will end.

now about the pay, Robert should charge, theres no doubt but if this becomes a pay site..I dont know. I have enough bills that I cant afford to pay..That is not to say that I think its unfair for a charge.If I had more money this is one of the first things Id enjoy paying for.Personally I wonder if we shouldnt all make better efforts to set up some kinda regular volunteer pay to Robert, like say the 17th of eaach month is contribution day to the site, and each and everyone of us donate something and set reminders to the others of this day........just a thought.might even work better in the end.

about kids,really Im not sure if this site pertians to children that much, how many members are even under 18? Maybe Im way wrong about that.I appreceiate Roberts concern about that tho, in this sue happy world I completely understand it.

last but not least what this site has meant for me. ....Most of you dont live in a backwater area as I do. Id say 95 percent of this area is anti gay or at least believe they are.Robert has provided a place for me to intermingle and speak topics I cannot discuss else where and certainly not on any kind of daily basis. I would really miss the site as it isI would even miss the bickering and badgering that goes on coz I really do try to live by the live and let live creed and even tho I disagree from time to time with what some of you have to say I rarekly post about it and I always think what if that was my opinion, Id hate to have it squelched just coz someone else didnt like it.Man you guys!!!!

To Robert, the above is just meant as insite for you to help with whatever decision. Future apologies if I have offended you in anyway.I want to say once more just to be clear that I think you deserve pay , should get pay and if you decided we need to pay I will more than likely pay lol....I really want you to know that I appreciate everything you have done here. You are a God send.None of us would be here without you.Lee.
 
I've got my migration papers ready!

I'm sure it would make hundreds migrate to "the other" american washing machine community.

Wow, fabulous, this is news to me. Educate us Thomas, where is this other community and does that mean after nearly 10 years I can close down aw.org?
 
ummm

I've stayed out of this one, but Robert's last post alarmed me, even if it was in jest. Here are my own little thoughts. Robert, I would be more than happy to pay more than the pittance you suggested. This site must take up time and money, and I do appreciate your efforts. I would prefer to pay annually, as others have said, but whatever you come up with is fine.

Typically, this is the first thing I do upon coming home from work. I look forward to the discussions, cameraderie, and yes the occasional innuendo. People often look at me askance when they discover my interest in appliances. I feel at home here. Dare I say even accepted?

Personally, I think you are all fine people. Some have strong opinions, some are witty, some are just plain smart. I enjoy all of you. I hope that most of you feel the same. Let's show Robert our appreciation and allow him to proceed as he feels fit.

Rant over.

Keith
 
whole-heartedly agree

With Gansky's post except I think the super forum should automatically go into a 1140 rpm rapid dry spin and SPIN all the threads into oblivion. Then start over at post #1. :) <p> Here is part of what Gansky said and I think it is well worth repeating: <p>

The rules have always been remarkably simple here;<p> treat others as you expect to be treated. <p>To be more specific, only a smidgen of common sense is required. If you don't want a fight, don't pick one. <p>If you don't like the thread topics, you're holding the mouse - don't click on them. This is a free website, not a textbook with required reading assignments. Pick what you like and leave the rest. Why is that such a difficult concept to grasp? This logic has worked for almost 10 years from Yahoo! groups through today. Why not give that a shot before 'suggesting' we have something different from a person just looking to share his hobby with others?
 
Lets make Super Forum future so bright you gotta...

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