curiosity

[aquarius8000]

Hello. I have recently been on holliday and there they had a Whirlpool 6thSENSE. I have a brochure with it in but i want to know more about it like when it was made as there is no date on it or the brochure and additional info

chris.

 

[dj-gabriele]

I'd say 2005-2006, month more, month less.
Pure crap, almost the same as my Whirlpool washing machine, I'd never ever recommend one of those

 

[aegokocarat]

i find whirlpool to be a fairly reliable brand.
what's worng with yours?

 

[dj-gabriele]

Whirlpool a fair brand!? Give me Chinese cr*p everyday!

3 bearings (read full tub) changes in 2 years, the machine alternatively underfills and overfills, noisy, bad rinsing, absurdly long cycles, zero stain removal.

And this was for my machine in Bologna.

My father went trough TWO dreamspaces, the first when it came out and the second a year after. On the first one the door self-destroyed, if was found on the floor, then the circuit board failed (the whole machine was replaced).
On the second one, the machine is so crap that when spinning (if ever, even with a full load), it shakes like a hurricane, despite being level on a poured reinforced concrete floor with ceramic tiles, the cycles are absurdly long too and it never manages to rinse anything the way it should. Compare it with the current Candy and we're two worlds apart.

And I won't even get started about talking about my former Whirlpool microwave and oven... reliable, hahaaha, what a joke!

 

[aegokocarat]

whirlpool are actually made in france and if you look at reviews they are of average scores. yours is more or less a reject par model

 

[fl1012]

Long Cycles

I've heard critisisms of the long cycles on Whirlpools. Around 2.5 - 3 hours seems commonplace. I've also heard several running and they seem to whine loudly throughout the cycle, which would annoy me.

However, they seem okay from a build perspective, to my non-technical eyes at least. The machine pictured is at least 6 years old, and there's quite a few like that still running, which isn't bad for a modern & fairly cheap machine.

They retailed at prices between that of Beko & Zanussi, and seem to be built somewhere between the two aswell, possibly nearer to Beko from what i can establish. If i was picking a reasonable price washer from new it'd be:

1. Zanussi
2. Beko
3. Whirlpool

in that order. I'd certainly put them above Indesit/Hotpoint & Hoover/Candy for reliability & length of service.

Liam.

 

[aquarius8000]

yes,

I agree that they are noisybut never knew that they were made in France.

another pic...

 

[hoover1100]

France?

The one my Mum had was made in Italy. Hers was an AWM5125/S, from the same range as the picture above, hers was from 2006, so I'd guess this one would be from around then too.

It was Ok, far too basic so the cycles were 3 hours long with no way of reducing to a realistic length; either 3 hours at 40/60/95, 1hr45 at 40 on the synthetics cycle with a slow spin, or a 30min cool wash which did next to nothing.

I think some of the more basic/special edition models are outsourced to a Chinese company.

The washer/dryers used to be made by antonio merloni, need I say more!?

I'd personally recommend Gorenje or Bosch as better alternatives in a similar price range.

Matt

 

[aquarius8000]

wow, wow ,wow

whats this about whirlpool being made all over the shop???? I know they are American so why are they then made abroad????

 

[aegokocarat]

rhe current ones are made in france as are he dryers. my aunt and uncle gave me thire old and broken whirlpool awz 650 dryer that lives in my garden shed an that's made in france. the dishwashers are made in germany

 

[donprohel]

Whirlpool Europe

Whirlpool entered into the European marked by acquiring the home appliances division of Philips (which included the brands Philips, Bauchnekt and some other Italian brands).

As far as I know, Whirlpool maintained the same structure of Philips: the headquarter in Northern Italy and plants in Italy and France (amongst the others).

By the way: this "Antonio Merloni is c£@p" sounds like the much discussed "Candy is c£@p"...

 

[aegokocarat]

whirlpool europe also bought out french brand laden

 

[dj-gabriele]

I confirm, my machine is made in Italy
while the Dreamspaces that my father had were made in Germany.

And even on the dreamspaces, there is no way to reduce the cycle time that on the second machine was 3:20 for the cotton 60°C wash! Unbelievably long.

And trust me, they're no better built than anything from Candy or Indesit!

 

[aquarius8000]

looks like youve had a time with whirlpool

to me the dreamspaces that your father had why did he buy a second one if he was not happy with the first one???

 

[dj-gabriele]

The second was given free as a replacement as the repair was uneconomic.

 

[irishmark]

whirlpools

hi

i worked for whirlpool for the last 5 years as a service partner,....there older laundry/dishwashing were actually great but now there using a seald wash unit which has a problem with the bearing seal...a washing machine could be a week old and the bearings would go,all the laundry is made in italy..washing machines that is,the dryers and h axis washer is made in france,dishwashing is between poland and germany,microwaves are german,ovens are both german and italion...there ovens i have rarley replaced elements,but the door glass tends to explode and shatter everywhere,..the washing machine in the picture is late 03 as the range was changed in 04,...being honest the new whirlpool stuff i wouldnt touch..its really beoming disposoble and the quality is 0...the only quality washer at a realistic price is bosch to be honest
,

 

[ariston4life]

howya mark glad to see your still on this site...find any intresting machines lately? as always im still dying for my ariston haha

 

[supermaticjames]

I know of an Ariston!

Hi there, I have seen an Ariston in a local yard, it isn't rust and seems repairable. It's not my thing so I haven't saved it. If your are near Co. Donegal you will be able to drive and get it no bother.

"irishmark", I thought you had no "time for washing machines"?

HA!

 

[ultimafan]

We have a whirpool and its quite good! Its the built in model of the same time period, it balances well, and washes OK. Compared to exploding washers by certain manufacturers, I'd say to buy Whirpool as a budget machine, although I love their new Aquasteam range with matching tumble dryers, I certainly won't rule out buying them if I had the money and needs in the future!

 

[fl1012]

irishmark.....

....when you say new Whirlpool stuff, would you include the one pictured below? I'd heard these had premature bearing failure, but there's a few that seem to be lasting okay too - around 4-5 years, which isn't awful considering the price they cost new.

Are Whirlpool washers notoriously bad now, or not really any worse than other modern machines like Hotpoint & Hoover? I always placed Whirlpool as somewhere between Hotpoint & Zanussi for quality, which obviously means theyre not bombproof, but pretty par for the course these days.

Liam

 

[nrones]

A little what I know from here...

I was never interested in Whirlpool appliances.. I have their vented dryer, just because I actually got it really cheap on a closing down deal of my favourite appliance shop where I used to go.. I payed it 180e brand new... I just couldn"t get a cheaper deal. I don"t like it as I mentioned in a Dryer thread of mine that used to be here, because I think it needs long to dry (for a vented one) and also clothes sometimes feel a little bit toasty even on low heat.

So, as I said I am not interested in Whirlpools much, I don"t ask much questions about them, but what just came to me is that their euro-top loaders are great, washing machines and dishwashers no, both breaking down fast or not washing well...not to mention still Antonio-merloni washer-dryers... so here, they are placed as a fourth worst brand (speaking for my country only!) (after Indesit, Haier and A.Merloni that we have here). However, I heard their repair service is ok

Dex

 

[koalas]

french adv;

Hi,
here is a French adv. of this machine, from 2000.
See you
Bert

 

[aquarius8000]

Very nice machines

You got there guys. do you know much about whirlpool???

 

[ultimafan]

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I'd defo go for a Whirpool over the stuff Haier, Indesit and Candy put out, at least they still have screwed drums. My Whirlpool, which also has the same drum as the others above, has its metal paddles as opposed to plastic ones. I like this drum, it for some reason reminds me of the old style Hoover drums (that being said, I know Hoover used to be owned by Maytag, and now Maytag and Whirpool seem to have idential appliances over here).

 

[dj-gabriele]

@ ultimafan

In Europe, Hoover is owned by the Candy group since 1994.
Elsewhere it is just a name of Techtronic Industries, a Chinese conglomerate

 

[ultimafan]

@dj-gabriele

Thanks, I know that Candy acquired Hoover in 1995 due to that free flights fiasco, it was in that BBC programme "Red Letter Days" which was talked about on the forum a couple of weeks ago. That's why I thought that the Whirlpool drum looked like Hoover's ecologic/new wave, as it was with maytag until 1995, and maytag seem to be with Whirpool now.

Of course, I have a total disdain for Whirlpool washer dryers as they are designed by Merloni and look like a Servis. I nearly had a heart attack when I saw one being sold for £500 on the web, talk about a wolf in sheep's clothing.

 

[ultimafan]

...

In terms of ranking when it comes to washing machines, I place Whirlpool above Hotpoint and Zanussi, and just below Bosch and Siemens. Of course Indesit, Haier and the million other brands it comes under come last in my book.

 

[fl1012]

Metal Paddles.....

I had noticed that all but the most recent Whirlpool's seemed to have metal paddles. Seems very old skool when you think even Zanussi (who i do rate quite highly) moved over to plastic paddles in the 90s.

I've always had decent service out of Zanussi/Electrolux group appliances (we've had at least 12 of their products of varying years throughout the family) so i'd have to try Whirlpool before ranking them above Zanussi, but i do think theyre under-rated & better than most equivilent price appliances.

Not that i agree with Which? tests a great deal, but i do believe their reliability ranking is pretty accurate & i think it places Whirlpool around Average, below Zanussi/Miele/Bosch but above Hoover/Indesit/Hotpoint. Anyone who has Which? membership & can correct/confirm please do so - i cancelled mine as i got sick of them saying one Hoover machine rinsed perfectly and another near identical one rinsed poorly, which was clearly complete rubbish!

Liam.

 

[rolls_rapide]

one Hoover machine rinsed perfectly and another near identic

Maybe they were correct.

Some of those new fangled computer controlled machines might skip part of the rinse and spin sequences, hence the inconsistent results.

I had a Hoover "New Wave" that sometimes completed its rinse-spin sequences according to the book, yet other times it would abort the faster rinse-spin stages.

 

[fl1012]

Interesting.....

....that may be the case with Hoover, tho it was just one of a few examples i'd seen. Generally i didn't trust their testing very much as i'm sure it was like many tests (such as car road tests in car magazines) - it all depends on the expectations of the user.

I prefer it when something is hard fact. Ie, 3 washing machines, all bought in April 2007, all made to do 7 cotton cycles per week, one lasted 18 months, one lasted 3 years, the other is still working. Anything away from that starts to get abit iffy as one machine could've done more loads per week, one could've been overloaded too much, etc, yet the one that's abused gets slated as it fails first.