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[fl1012]

irishmark.....

....when you say new Whirlpool stuff, would you include the one pictured below? I'd heard these had premature bearing failure, but there's a few that seem to be lasting okay too - around 4-5 years, which isn't awful considering the price they cost new.

Are Whirlpool washers notoriously bad now, or not really any worse than other modern machines like Hotpoint & Hoover? I always placed Whirlpool as somewhere between Hotpoint & Zanussi for quality, which obviously means theyre not bombproof, but pretty par for the course these days.

Liam

 

[nrones]

A little what I know from here...

I was never interested in Whirlpool appliances.. I have their vented dryer, just because I actually got it really cheap on a closing down deal of my favourite appliance shop where I used to go.. I payed it 180e brand new... I just couldn"t get a cheaper deal. I don"t like it as I mentioned in a Dryer thread of mine that used to be here, because I think it needs long to dry (for a vented one) and also clothes sometimes feel a little bit toasty even on low heat.

So, as I said I am not interested in Whirlpools much, I don"t ask much questions about them, but what just came to me is that their euro-top loaders are great, washing machines and dishwashers no, both breaking down fast or not washing well...not to mention still Antonio-merloni washer-dryers... so here, they are placed as a fourth worst brand (speaking for my country only!) (after Indesit, Haier and A.Merloni that we have here). However, I heard their repair service is ok

Dex

 

[koalas]

french adv;

Hi,
here is a French adv. of this machine, from 2000.
See you
Bert

 

[aquarius8000]

Very nice machines

You got there guys. do you know much about whirlpool???

 

[ultimafan]

...

I'd defo go for a Whirpool over the stuff Haier, Indesit and Candy put out, at least they still have screwed drums. My Whirlpool, which also has the same drum as the others above, has its metal paddles as opposed to plastic ones. I like this drum, it for some reason reminds me of the old style Hoover drums (that being said, I know Hoover used to be owned by Maytag, and now Maytag and Whirpool seem to have idential appliances over here).

 

[dj-gabriele]

@ ultimafan

In Europe, Hoover is owned by the Candy group since 1994.
Elsewhere it is just a name of Techtronic Industries, a Chinese conglomerate

 

[ultimafan]

@dj-gabriele

Thanks, I know that Candy acquired Hoover in 1995 due to that free flights fiasco, it was in that BBC programme "Red Letter Days" which was talked about on the forum a couple of weeks ago. That's why I thought that the Whirlpool drum looked like Hoover's ecologic/new wave, as it was with maytag until 1995, and maytag seem to be with Whirpool now.

Of course, I have a total disdain for Whirlpool washer dryers as they are designed by Merloni and look like a Servis. I nearly had a heart attack when I saw one being sold for £500 on the web, talk about a wolf in sheep's clothing.

 

[ultimafan]

...

In terms of ranking when it comes to washing machines, I place Whirlpool above Hotpoint and Zanussi, and just below Bosch and Siemens. Of course Indesit, Haier and the million other brands it comes under come last in my book.

 

[fl1012]

Metal Paddles.....

I had noticed that all but the most recent Whirlpool's seemed to have metal paddles. Seems very old skool when you think even Zanussi (who i do rate quite highly) moved over to plastic paddles in the 90s.

I've always had decent service out of Zanussi/Electrolux group appliances (we've had at least 12 of their products of varying years throughout the family) so i'd have to try Whirlpool before ranking them above Zanussi, but i do think theyre under-rated & better than most equivilent price appliances.

Not that i agree with Which? tests a great deal, but i do believe their reliability ranking is pretty accurate & i think it places Whirlpool around Average, below Zanussi/Miele/Bosch but above Hoover/Indesit/Hotpoint. Anyone who has Which? membership & can correct/confirm please do so - i cancelled mine as i got sick of them saying one Hoover machine rinsed perfectly and another near identical one rinsed poorly, which was clearly complete rubbish!

Liam.

 

[rolls_rapide]

one Hoover machine rinsed perfectly and another near identic

Maybe they were correct.

Some of those new fangled computer controlled machines might skip part of the rinse and spin sequences, hence the inconsistent results.

I had a Hoover "New Wave" that sometimes completed its rinse-spin sequences according to the book, yet other times it would abort the faster rinse-spin stages.

 

[fl1012]

Interesting.....

....that may be the case with Hoover, tho it was just one of a few examples i'd seen. Generally i didn't trust their testing very much as i'm sure it was like many tests (such as car road tests in car magazines) - it all depends on the expectations of the user.

I prefer it when something is hard fact. Ie, 3 washing machines, all bought in April 2007, all made to do 7 cotton cycles per week, one lasted 18 months, one lasted 3 years, the other is still working. Anything away from that starts to get abit iffy as one machine could've done more loads per week, one could've been overloaded too much, etc, yet the one that's abused gets slated as it fails first.

 

[nrones]

I didn"t actually know that pre-Candy hoovers did that!

The rinse thing...
I know you guys will probobly love to point out that Candy"s are stupid macines, no sensors, just having a stupid program going round without any correction.
Machines like that are Indesits, but as far as I know, (and I know well since I have them) I"ve literally NEVER seen my Candy (especially the GrandOPlus) doo the exact rinses even on same programs! It at least changes water level, but sometimes interm. spins are either lowered to 600 but then they last longer (in case of unbalance or sudslock) or ramped up from 800 to 1000 (if it needs a better rinse). Also it usually doo 3 normally but sometimes with no option makes it 2 or 4, again depending on how water dirty was - or something else. Not to mention mine experiment where I selected Aqua+ and in 4th rinse aded Persil liquid detergent.. machine did 5 more rinses after that (although I really incontroled put amount of persil for 2 wases), so that makes 9 rinses with no-stoppig machine - that deffinatley made me belive in SmartActivaSensors, but shame I didn"t filmed it

And I am quite amazed pre-Candy hoovers did that--seems that new machines are having some Hoover genes at least xD

cheers,
Dex

and HAPPY EASTER 2 U!!

 

[optima]

A few years back i could not fault whirlpool washers. Most of the problems started when they changed the drum design & started putting plastic drum lifters in them. since then the main problems we have come across are the bearings failing & they has been alot of problems especially on the door interlocks ie doors not opening after the machine has finished on the higher spec machines.

 

[ultimafan]

KEEP HOOVER AND CANDY OUT!!!!!!! NRONES!

why oh why oh why does Candy and Hoover come into a totally non-Hoover thread. Keep them out of this thread!! This is about Whirlpool...one of my favourite brands.

actually optima, there are still some machines with metal paddles, like the built in whirlpools, and I think some models may still have that drum. Out of all the italian brands, it is the best, or at least the most tolerable. What

 

[nrones]

what a behaviour...

This isn"t the first time I really wish I had power to delete all my posts and "escape" from a thread..

Since I can"t do it I must reply
If you read, you would have seen that actually I wasn"t the first one talking about Hoover. People here made a little digression (people do that on forum and it"s completely fine) and talked about rinses, and then I let my self reply with my experience of rinses that, which obviously made you mad, happend with Candy. Sorry because I did that, I again forgot that Candy is a forbidden theme, specially when talking positive about it.

Also as you could see that my 1st comment here was completely neutral, and only about whirlpool.

Even YOU before myself wrote about flight fiasco (that I beleve wasn"t whirlpool).

I am just sorry because you accused me of something I didn"t actually do - I didn"t "started talking about Candy in a non-Candy thread", so your reply is quite inappropriate, at least this time.

Dex

 

[optima]

I think i have joined this site at the wrong time. Your all falling out. Hope its not my fault.

 

[nrones]

optima, you are great

It is not because of you ofcourse!

It's just that I hate being accused of something I didn't actually doo, and also being accuzed for such a normal thing that everyone does...
Do I need to say more, when person who told me that with capitals, wrote a whole post about free flights Hoover scandal, waaaay before I mentioned it - pointless really but never mind....

Now I have a question about Whirlpools...what do you think of their toploaders, but european way..they are most sold here, so Im just curious

 

[optima]

Well dex where i live here in Cumbria we dont really sell many drum action top loaders only if a customer is short on space so i carnt really give a verdict i think the top spin speed is a 1000rpm. but we do sell quite a few more american agitator ones we have lots of guest houses & hotels around here but we must point out that the usa top loaders dont have heaters built-in so they must have a good supply of hot water.

 

[ultimafan]

i owe some apologies....

I apologise if my post was offensive. I had a bit o a rough day which didn't help. I must have skimmed through the thread pretty quick so i guess my post was way off the mark. I referenced hoover as it was once linked to maytag and maytag is now with whirlpool. I have seen the threads whete war has broken out with hoover and have stayed out as it heats up quite a bit, but ive done it myself so i apologise to nrones optima and anyone else who may hhave taken offense but i think we should discuss the problems of hoover in another thread. Back to the point whirlpool have appered onthe maytag asko machines

 

[nrones]

It"s ok!

I have a question... since Optima mentioned that people for hotels mostly buy Whirlpool American style top-loaders (as far as I understood).

I don"t understand why do they do that - why can"t they buy normal washing machine, I don"t know much about american top loaders, but hear all the time that they are inefficient, and kinda washing worse than front loaders - I can"t guarantee it because I"ve never seen top loader action in person.
So why would hotels waste? What is a benefit of using American top-loader in such places where there are tons of laundry to wash? Do you know something about it?

thanks alot indeed,
Dex