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Whirlpool laundry feels kind of like a basic chevy..

YES! LOL

Their dishwashers are really good...but what's up with their washers? I do love their dryers.. I prefer them to any other brand.. but not their washers at all... To be fair, I have no clue how the new FL whirlpools operate. I don't know if any changes were made. I keep waiting for a youtube video of someone showing theirs off videoing some cycles. I do like the way the new FL washers look (aside from the plastic door instead of glass)
 
You’re absolutely right Seana806. I’m sure nobody ever heard about this incident that happened in recent years, I heard this from a highly credible journalist who’s been studying a range of phenomenons for over fifty years now and she was personally informed about this incident that happened. At a lab in Japan where AI Robots were being created, 29 lab employees were killed by the robots and when the surviving lab employees turned these robots on to self destruct mode they began to rebuild themselves “stronger than ever before”. They could not be controlled. You will not be told about this by the general media, they have been told NOT to cover this story. This would shake humanity too much with the force of advancing AI direction in this world. I believe this happened around 2019 or 2020.

When or if someday in the future we have AI Robots replacing human jobs, let’s say for example at an airport and we’re being checked at security by AI Robots, who’s to say the same thing that happened in that Japan lab won’t happen to regular people? AI is a major threat to humanity and it’s already proven that.

Anyway, I’m very happy about this article! Now it would be nice to see manufacturers follow this and allow dishwashers and washers to use more water but as many said that probably won’t happen since they “have it figured out”. The new Whirlpool top loaders are all complete and utter garbage, such weak poor wash action, and terribly built. Not a fan of the upper line whirlpool machines including Maytag and KA. Would never buy or recommend them they aren’t very reliable but nowadays nothing is! After now having a dishwasher that has a diverter motor I find it very annoying, there’s no reason for that. A dishwasher should be able to use enough water and a large enough motor to just run each arm simultaneously and it’s much more simple and less to have to replace someday. This is why I love the 2019 Maytag so much, it’s a simple machine yet modern and sleek with a large enough motor and no ridiculous unnecessary steps in each cycle, although the cycles can still be a bit long and over thorough for my taste.
 
to agiflow

Didn't Whirlpool change their entire dishwasher line or just some of them. When I look in some of their dishwashers, it looks like the global wash system. I wish GE would've made refinements to their filter-flo because it filtered out lint and hair. I've had experience with one and it got anything clean, even to the filthiest heavy duty cottons and linens. The washers that GE came out with after that were a disaster. shaky cabinets, flimsy suspension, and noisy operation and cheap feeling were an example. I don't think GE's laundry machines have gotten better.
 
Reply #32

Here’s another thing, AI requires quite a bit of energy to operate. If things continue going down the path at the rate they are, we’ll soon find ourselves in a situation like in the 2008 Pixar Film WALL-E (sort of like 2001 A Space Odyssey from 1968), aggressive marketing and AI algorithms convinced people to consume to the point where earth became uninhabitable. Even though I was 9 years old at the time in 2008, was horrified after realizing what can happen when you let technology get ‘too powerful’, have to stop being the enabler. No one seems to listen until it’s too late.
 
EPA and laundry

The EPA needs to stay out of our laundry rooms. They're the cause of clothes still being dirty after washing. So tell me, who's delusional? This is why I advocate for the GE filter-flos and other real washers because they used plenty of water and agitation just to get the job done right the first time. Now, we have washers that use 2 cups of water. They barely even agitate anyway. They're just toys in comparison to what was built years ago. Today's consumers want a real washer and that's why they flock to Speed Queen Classic or the used markets. This is so stupid! I don't have any water bills to pay so I'm not worried! Water isn't going anywhere. The water shortage is just a lie to shove HE washers down our throats. I'm sick and tired of it.

https://firstbuild.com/inventions/add-filter-system-back-to-washing-machines/
 
I don't have any water bills to pay so I'm not worri

You don't own any appliances either, yet constantly complain about reliability.

I can't figure out why you have such a hard time getting your clothes clean. I have a Speed Queen, but I've used many others when visiting relatives, or going to the family cottage. They all get my clothes clean.
 
I have no cleaning issues with my LG Turbowash front load, uses plenty of water and I get a range of temperatures from 90F to 165F to 170F, all cycles needed, spins very fast and shortens time in the dryer In fact, I've had frontloaders since 2006 when I kicked the Lady Shredmore out of my laundry room to the garage. And it sat there until 2024. The last top loader I liked was our 1970 Kenmore 800.
 
Do you ever feel like everything is upside down? Make it make sense... Have any of you ever heard of TEMU? People are buying craploads of stuff on there and filling their homes with things they don't need.... Tiktoker's will have trends/content creators wasting massive amounts of products to create content. It's like one aspect of life has to be environmentally friendly.... completely ignoring other aspects.. This youtuber highlights some of that...

 
Reply number 32 total BS

“A highly respected journalist knows about this story, what total BS she’s sitting on the story of the decade and she’s not gonna tell because there’s absolutely no evidence. This is not true at all, Dan, you should not repeat BS like this. It makes you look like a fool.

New dishwashers, the new whirlpool KitchenAid and Maytag dishwashers are doing beautifully. I get no complaints about cleaning from customers. The quality and reliability seems to be much better than it was 10 and 20 years ago while I like the Maytag dishwasher you have that does not alternate arms. The new ones are working much better than that design they still use the same heavy duty motor your machine has

New whirlpool laundry appliances are giving very few problems. The quality is at an all-time high and warranty calls are down to about nothing. I can’t remember when we sold a new whirlpool or Maytag laundry appliance that had a problem in the last decade.

It’s really a shame Dan for somebody your age to be so negative. I sure wouldn’t wanna have to live my life that way

John L
 
Reply #42

Hello John, I'm curious about the Maytag MVWP586GW that came out 2 years ago. Would you know if they made any revisions to that washer ?

I purchased one back in November 2023 and only used it a couple of months.

It seemed to have a glitch where if you open the lid during the rinse fill it would only fill up to the low water level even if say you had it set to deep fill.

One of the posters said they have been having several problems with that machine.

I was on maytag's website and they don't display it anymore on their lineup.

The last time I saw it on there it said it was temporarily out of stock.

Do you know of any revision changes to that machine or if they're going to continue it or not?

If anybody would know you would.Thanks for any light you can shed.
 
to william8

First of all, I don't have any problem with the Speed Queens at my apartment. Second of all, I don't need to own any of them, let alone any of the mainstream garbage that's out there to know that there's a problem with most washers to know that their performance is stupidly flawed. The GE hydrowave I used in a college dorm back in 2014 was the stupidest piece of stupid crap I have ever used. This is just a prime example! No! The clothes NEVER moved in that machine despite it being on normal/fast! That agitation was way too weak! Whatever was on top still remained on top! NO! It NEVER did a deep rinse either! I had to pay another $0.50 just so I can run it again to rinse the clothes! The dryers were just as bad or maybe even worse! They never got the clothes dry despite being on cottons/high! That Speed Queen Classic or its commercial counterparts would've turned that load over 2000 times the world over! So no, I don't need to own any of them! All I need to do is just use any machine to tell! Does it matter? Does it matter whether I own them or not? NO!!!! Oh yeah, and that GE hydrowave in my community college dorm slammed the cabinet when it went into the final spin. I've even seen one that was about to fall apart. Meanwhile, the washers my family used just got the job done right. I've used Whirlpool DD's in a dorm at texas school for the blind and they just plain old worked! None of this stupid crappy load sensing and measuring for water level! Those were real washers! And their matching Classic or commercial variant of the same dryer would've gotten the clothes dried in 1 swoop! Again! I don't need to own any of them! I've used them several times in my life! Maybe even once is too many! That's enough to form my own opinion! For the last time![this post was last edited: 2/23/2025-14:25]
 
Nobody is being negative and nobody is being delusional because the other side is being fundamentally disingenuous.  

 

 

Older water using appliances did cycles in less time and cleaned just as well if not better.  (Even quick wash on tall tubs tends to use more water and energy) No error codes, no stinky filters, no exploding washing machines. Warranty calls are down sure, as are both longevity and durability.  

 

 

If anything those throwing stones are the ones pontificating hot air. Here we have a repair tech let it slip to poor cleaning, stinky filters, food bits being left behind, poor drying, and a myriad of other problems involving HE tall tubs- such that he went back to using non HE standard tubs:

 

 

 

Reply #7:

 

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Reply #1:

 

www.automaticwasher.org/c...

 

 

<strong><strong>He then proceeds to invalidate anyone who says they've had the exact same problems. I am glad he has been saying such, because he has now opened my eyes to a profound truth.
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chetlaham

You go chetlaham! All these people are doing are proving my point! I don't care what anybody says! I have years of experience using these machines! No! They don't need to be every brand or model to know! Just one model of each brand is enough!
 
Jerome, what these people are saying does not reflect their lived experiences in any way, shape or form. They had and are having the same experiences as us and as most Americans. The difference between them and us is that they lie and then proceed to attack anyone who speaks the truth. I can acknowledge the truth no matter how painful it is, they can't.    
 
Same could be said about the same lies being repeated over and over.

 

 

 

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"We at AW all know these things so you need to rant to them, not us, constantly "

 

 

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I want to say thank you for being honest here. Everyone knows modern HE appliances are either mediocre or short lived. The difference being some are more honest about it than others. Hence the so called "rants" pointing out that misinformation. 
 
chetlaham

I'm lying because I claim to not have all these problems GE has? That my clothes come clean with all the washers I use each year?

The language I would like to use to respond that is probably not allowed here.

I did buy a Speed Queen for reliability, but I don't tell everyone they MUST also buy one, and they MUST use only one cycle. It's bull...t.
 
William, I don't have you in mind.

 

I have the example used in Reply #46 in mind.

 

Whenever someone says they are getting poor results from HE appliances, or that they break down prematurely, they are gaslit by a small contingent of this site. 

 

 

You choose Speed Queen because you knew it would last and last unlike a modern GE.
 
once again...

I've already told you my experience! FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME!!!! I will repeat it until you get it or until I turn blue in the face! No! I'm not the only one who feels this way! Many consumers do! Chet does too!
What about the GE model t's that shook violently during agitation? What about when they slam the cabinet during spin? I'm lucky mine didn't but still! That GE felt and sounded cheap and flimsy. The Speed Queen Classic/Commercial is much more smooth than GE model T will ever be! GE could easily make a filter-flo again if they wanted to. They just don't care! And NO! I'm not alone in feeling this way![this post was last edited: 2/23/2025-18:06]
 
Jerome, millions of Americans feel the way you do. Millions have experienced stinky water using appliances, appliances that don't clean, throw error, break down prematurely, are not economical to fix, wear out clothes, require pre washing/pre treatment, and the list goes on. 

 

All because of energy regs trying to do what can not be done in the first place. 

 

The whole goal of democracy is discretion, power and education resting in the average in person. The average person is at the top, the average person is the ruling class unlike most societies which have existed beforehand. Government overreach goes against everything which gave rise to the advancements and achievements of modern civilization. The whole purpose of government is to uphold and defend freedom and human rights. Not to take such away from people.
 
EPA and DOE

The EPA and DOE need to stay out of our lives! Stay out of it! Today's washers, dryers, and dishwashers waste time and are always taking up space. And on top of that, these struggle to do anything. When "working properly", they sound like an animal dying! and, they fail to dry properly and the dishwashers just mist the dishes "clean". Do they think we're stupid? And you have to clean a stupid filter.
Again, how is that saving water and energy when you have to do clean washer and dishwasher cycles and run the dryers multiple times? It doesn't work like that. High Efficiency has proven to be nothing but a huge scam! I bet the GE filter-flos were more of a high efficiency washer than these "new and improved" models are. Seriously! Thousands upon thousands of complaints come in every year! Oh, and the dryers take forever to dry. What more do I need to add? You can't wash clothes with 2 cups of water, dry clothes at 80 degrees fahrenheit, and wash dishes with just a trickle of water and inferior detergents. I want phosphates in my detergents and everything to work properly. Many consumers have noticed this.[this post was last edited: 2/23/2025-23:30]
 

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