I do a lot of dishes by hand because my dishwasher sucks. It's built-in and included in the apartment, so I can't replace it. It's a Frigidaire from about 2005, the plain model sold for property owners. I do have hard water, but it does a bad job no matter how much or little of any product I've tried was used. My hot water is about 160, so it's not that, either.
Hand Dishwashing
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Oh yes - I handwash
I mentioned in another thread that I have never owned a dishwasher - so I have always handwashed dishes. My mother had an old farm sink - she would fill up her one basin with hot, soapy water and fill up a dishpan with hot clear water for rinse. I always hated that arrangement since, as Spankomatic said above - one soapy dish goes in and the rinsewater is no longer clear - it is now diluted wash water. In my home I have a stainless two - basin sink (that I love!) I wash from right to left - dirty dishes on my right (if there's enough to stack - usually its just hubby and me and we don't generate that many dishes), sink of hot, soapy water in the right-hand basin, and I stack the clean dishes in the left-hand basin. Once I have the left basin full/have cleared the right basin/or am completely finished, I rinse off the clean dishes and stack them to my left on the counter to be dried and put away. I have a chrome dish drainer I keep under the sink if I need it, but usually there's only a couple of plates and some flatware, so after a rinse under the sprayer, I will stack the clean dishes on a towel. Then it's dry and put away - everything in its place! I think putting the dishes away is my favorie part - I love all of the neat, even rows the glasses make as well as the regular, uniform stacks of dishes. It all looks so neat and orderly....(sigh)
I'm gonna go wash my husband's breakfast dishes now
-Sherri
I mentioned in another thread that I have never owned a dishwasher - so I have always handwashed dishes. My mother had an old farm sink - she would fill up her one basin with hot, soapy water and fill up a dishpan with hot clear water for rinse. I always hated that arrangement since, as Spankomatic said above - one soapy dish goes in and the rinsewater is no longer clear - it is now diluted wash water. In my home I have a stainless two - basin sink (that I love!) I wash from right to left - dirty dishes on my right (if there's enough to stack - usually its just hubby and me and we don't generate that many dishes), sink of hot, soapy water in the right-hand basin, and I stack the clean dishes in the left-hand basin. Once I have the left basin full/have cleared the right basin/or am completely finished, I rinse off the clean dishes and stack them to my left on the counter to be dried and put away. I have a chrome dish drainer I keep under the sink if I need it, but usually there's only a couple of plates and some flatware, so after a rinse under the sprayer, I will stack the clean dishes on a towel. Then it's dry and put away - everything in its place! I think putting the dishes away is my favorie part - I love all of the neat, even rows the glasses make as well as the regular, uniform stacks of dishes. It all looks so neat and orderly....(sigh)
I'm gonna go wash my husband's breakfast dishes now
-Sherri
WE JUST LOVE OUR BUSY WORK...DON'T WE?
Sherri...we just love you to death, and I know you have heard this a million times, but I have a best friend named Sherri...and everytime we meet I have to start singing like FrankieValley..........SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRIIIIEEEEEEEE...BABY!
can't help myself
Sherri...we just love you to death, and I know you have heard this a million times, but I have a best friend named Sherri...and everytime we meet I have to start singing like FrankieValley..........SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRIIIIEEEEEEEE...BABY!
can't help myself
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Very, very rarely do I hand wash anything. The only thing now that gets had washed is the insert to my rice cooker. Way too many years without a dishwasher did this to me!
Alas, I do plenty of handwashing, since I don't have a dishwasher at the moment.
I rinse with running water. Dunking the dish would possibly save water, but (even with care) would probably eventually have too much detergent.
I use (almost exclusively) "green" detergents--Seventh Generation, etc. I'm not sure if they are as effective as conventional, but they have worked well enough for me. Plus, I find the scent more tolerable, and I think they may be easier on my hands.
I'm looking into getting a dishwasher. When that happens, about the only things I'll hand wash are things that can survive safely--good knives, a Calphalon soup pot, etc.
I rinse with running water. Dunking the dish would possibly save water, but (even with care) would probably eventually have too much detergent.
I use (almost exclusively) "green" detergents--Seventh Generation, etc. I'm not sure if they are as effective as conventional, but they have worked well enough for me. Plus, I find the scent more tolerable, and I think they may be easier on my hands.
I'm looking into getting a dishwasher. When that happens, about the only things I'll hand wash are things that can survive safely--good knives, a Calphalon soup pot, etc.
Forgive me if you've heard this one...
Somehow this thread reminds me of this story:
A man visited a friend, and was disturbed at dinner at how the dishes really didn't seem very clean. His friend said: "These dishes are as clean as Soap and Water can get them!"
After dinner, the host set the dishes on the floor, and called to a couple of dogs in the corner: "Here Soap and Water!"
Somehow this thread reminds me of this story:
A man visited a friend, and was disturbed at dinner at how the dishes really didn't seem very clean. His friend said: "These dishes are as clean as Soap and Water can get them!"
After dinner, the host set the dishes on the floor, and called to a couple of dogs in the corner: "Here Soap and Water!"
SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRIIIIEEEEEEEE...BABY!
I've always preferred:
You should've been gone
Knowing how I made you feel
And I should've been gone
After all your words of steel
Oh I must have been a dreamer
(must have been a dreamer ooooh)
And I must've been someone else
(someone else)
And we should've been over
(over now)
Oh Sherrie
Our love holds on
Holds on
Oh Sherrie
Our love holds on
Holds on!
Steve Perry. If there was another man that could sing like him...well he'd probably be a professional singer, too.
I've always preferred:
You should've been gone
Knowing how I made you feel
And I should've been gone
After all your words of steel
Oh I must have been a dreamer
(must have been a dreamer ooooh)
And I must've been someone else
(someone else)
And we should've been over
(over now)
Oh Sherrie
Our love holds on
Holds on
Oh Sherrie
Our love holds on
Holds on!
Steve Perry. If there was another man that could sing like him...well he'd probably be a professional singer, too.
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Often at large holidays or dinner parties, when there are a number of "helpers" I've put pots and pans and stove parts in the DW- as they now take WAYYYYYY to long to be useful.
1 person clearing the table
1 person scraping and stacking dirties
me at the sink
1 person drying and stacking
1 person putting away
Just used one (formerly)dirty pot as a dishpan and boom boom boom. like greased lightning.
We were done with dishes from multi-courses and quickly too!
Many many folks like to play in with and around water and can't get past their psychological fear that a DW is, in their beliefs, less effective. The reality is they probably don't want to give up control and the need to play with water.
1 person clearing the table
1 person scraping and stacking dirties
me at the sink
1 person drying and stacking
1 person putting away
Just used one (formerly)dirty pot as a dishpan and boom boom boom. like greased lightning.
We were done with dishes from multi-courses and quickly too!
Many many folks like to play in with and around water and can't get past their psychological fear that a DW is, in their beliefs, less effective. The reality is they probably don't want to give up control and the need to play with water.
Well as much as I hate it..,
and I do have a dishwasher, I usually end up washing dishes (mostly pots and Pans) twice a day. My partner seems to think that in order to put a meal on the table one must use every utensil, pot and pan in the kithen. If I put everything in the dishwasher, It would constantly be running. I have a double basin sink, so one side is hot soapy water, rinse turn on the water then needed and then they stack in the dish drainer which is in the other basin.
and I do have a dishwasher, I usually end up washing dishes (mostly pots and Pans) twice a day. My partner seems to think that in order to put a meal on the table one must use every utensil, pot and pan in the kithen. If I put everything in the dishwasher, It would constantly be running. I have a double basin sink, so one side is hot soapy water, rinse turn on the water then needed and then they stack in the dish drainer which is in the other basin.
Awwww thanks yogi....
I loves you guys too Okay, everybody get in here - group hug! >>HUG<<
I don't want to sound too gushy, but I really feel at home around you guys You know what they say, "birds of a feather..."
And yes - absolutely everybody feels they MUST sing either the Steve Perry or (more usually) the Frankie Vally song to me. (sigh). For you guys, I will endure and smile
During the holidays I do the same kind of bucket brigade Toggle described. It can be a lot of fun, but my kitchen is so wee it will be nice to have a DW for next year's celebration.
I don't know what I'm going to do for next year's holidays, though! My mother in law has passed, my mother is in Texas, and I just learned my brother and his hubby are moving to Toledo! I have nobody to cook for anymore (well, save the husband, of course)
Anybody want to come to my house for Thanksgiving this year?
-Sherri
I loves you guys too
Okay, everybody get in here - group hug! >>HUG<<I don't want to sound too gushy, but I really feel at home around you guys
You know what they say, "birds of a feather..."And yes - absolutely everybody feels they MUST sing either the Steve Perry or (more usually) the Frankie Vally song to me. (sigh). For you guys, I will endure and smile
During the holidays I do the same kind of bucket brigade Toggle described. It can be a lot of fun, but my kitchen is so wee it will be nice to have a DW for next year's celebration.
I don't know what I'm going to do for next year's holidays, though! My mother in law has passed, my mother is in Texas, and I just learned my brother and his hubby are moving to Toledo! I have nobody to cook for anymore (well, save the husband, of course)
Anybody want to come to my house for Thanksgiving this year?
-Sherri
spankomatic
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Anybody want to come to my house for Thanksgiving this year?
We ALL do! Robert,how many members are in the club now???
We ALL do! Robert,how many members are in the club now???
I'm not very fond of handwashing, but I do wash certain things by hand - generally pots and pans and large bowls that really are too big for the dishwasher.
Before I got a place with a dishwasher, I handwashed everything. After I got a dishwasher, I noticed that some stuff I'd had for years really wasn't that clean - especially the plastics. One dishwasher session cleared that up and I was sold on the concept. The dishwasher gets water generally much hotter than most handwashing, as well as using much more powerful cleaners and a scientific rinse/wash/rinse pattern that seems to strip soil from dishes and utensils very well.
Before I got a place with a dishwasher, I handwashed everything. After I got a dishwasher, I noticed that some stuff I'd had for years really wasn't that clean - especially the plastics. One dishwasher session cleared that up and I was sold on the concept. The dishwasher gets water generally much hotter than most handwashing, as well as using much more powerful cleaners and a scientific rinse/wash/rinse pattern that seems to strip soil from dishes and utensils very well.
ronhic
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Well if I HAVE to do them by hand, I do this...
- Everything scraped and stacked on the left of the sink
- 2" hot water in
- swish the dishes through to rinse and stack on the drainer
- rinse pots if needed
- move everything back to the left
- drain rinse water
Then
- 2" fresh hot water and a squirt of detergent
- wipe down drainer
- glasses then cups...rinse under low flow hot water into detergent sink..into drainer
- plates next starting with smallest...rinsed as above and into drainer
- another squirt of detergent for the pots...rinse
- empty sink
THEN
- 1" hot water touch of detergent
- benches
- stove
- rinse cloth in soapy water...then rinse in cold water...
wring the bloody thing out, unfold and hang ovre tap to dry...
...and if you rinse the wash cloth out in hot soapy and then cold water, wring and then let dry...it won't go smelly
Is it any wonder that I like dishwashers?
- Everything scraped and stacked on the left of the sink
- 2" hot water in
- swish the dishes through to rinse and stack on the drainer
- rinse pots if needed
- move everything back to the left
- drain rinse water
Then
- 2" fresh hot water and a squirt of detergent
- wipe down drainer
- glasses then cups...rinse under low flow hot water into detergent sink..into drainer
- plates next starting with smallest...rinsed as above and into drainer
- another squirt of detergent for the pots...rinse
- empty sink
THEN
- 1" hot water touch of detergent
- benches
- stove
- rinse cloth in soapy water...then rinse in cold water...
wring the bloody thing out, unfold and hang ovre tap to dry...
...and if you rinse the wash cloth out in hot soapy and then cold water, wring and then let dry...it won't go smelly
Is it any wonder that I like dishwashers?
Hmm,
Here in Germany, everything goes into the Miele - including wooden spoons.
Only carbon-steel knives and cast-iron are cleaned by hand.
If it isn't dishwasher safe, I don't buy it.
When I do have to wash stuff by hand, I use hot water, lots of soak time and rinse under running hot water which I then turn off between items. I don't buy this nonsense that you needn't rinse dishwashing detergent off and this used to cause quite a few fights with my super-öko-oriented first German boyfriend.
Of course there's a residue, how silly to pretend there isn't.
But wasting water when rinsing is also a bad idea.
When I have to do a big washing up - large party or picnic or social, whatever, we follow the three-basin rule with the last rinse basin filled with water and chlorine bleach.
The worst thing one can do, the absolute worst, is to wipe dishes dry. That spreads disease and filth more than anything else.
All in all, I think if I had to chose, I'd take a dishwasher over a refrigerator.
Here in Germany, everything goes into the Miele - including wooden spoons.
Only carbon-steel knives and cast-iron are cleaned by hand.
If it isn't dishwasher safe, I don't buy it.
When I do have to wash stuff by hand, I use hot water, lots of soak time and rinse under running hot water which I then turn off between items. I don't buy this nonsense that you needn't rinse dishwashing detergent off and this used to cause quite a few fights with my super-öko-oriented first German boyfriend.
Of course there's a residue, how silly to pretend there isn't.
But wasting water when rinsing is also a bad idea.
When I have to do a big washing up - large party or picnic or social, whatever, we follow the three-basin rule with the last rinse basin filled with water and chlorine bleach.
The worst thing one can do, the absolute worst, is to wipe dishes dry. That spreads disease and filth more than anything else.
All in all, I think if I had to chose, I'd take a dishwasher over a refrigerator.
"Hi Thomas, may I ask you why so many brazilians do their dishes by hand. Is this a cultural fact? I know that in Italy a lot of housewives even now prefer to do the dishes by hand.
Are the dishwashers in Brazil more expensive than in other countries?"
I believe it's much more a cultural fact.
Dishwashers are expensive, but not outrageous. Also, anyone could finance them in up to 20 quotes.
Dishwasher detergents are quite expensive too, if compared to handwashing detergents but I don't believe this is the point too.
so, the only point I can believe is the cultural fact, because many of the housekeepers that has a dishwasher NEVER use them. They say they would use it only on "special ocasions" like christmas or other holliday. but most of the times, when these meals happen, you'll always see a huge pile of dishes on the sink, the housekeeper handwashing (and blaming even the 5th generation of her family because of it) and saying it doesn't worth to use the dishwasher because you have the chore to load it and unload it, plus the ages it takes to run the cycle, plus the electricity costs (and believe it of not) most of them believe it spends thousands and thousands of gallons of water per cycle.
At home, after many years with a dishwasher being used only once or twice a year, i finally educated my mom to start using it every day. the only things I do by hand are the barbecure grills because they don't fit inside my compact Brastemp built in.
Are the dishwashers in Brazil more expensive than in other countries?"
I believe it's much more a cultural fact.
Dishwashers are expensive, but not outrageous. Also, anyone could finance them in up to 20 quotes.
Dishwasher detergents are quite expensive too, if compared to handwashing detergents but I don't believe this is the point too.
so, the only point I can believe is the cultural fact, because many of the housekeepers that has a dishwasher NEVER use them. They say they would use it only on "special ocasions" like christmas or other holliday. but most of the times, when these meals happen, you'll always see a huge pile of dishes on the sink, the housekeeper handwashing (and blaming even the 5th generation of her family because of it) and saying it doesn't worth to use the dishwasher because you have the chore to load it and unload it, plus the ages it takes to run the cycle, plus the electricity costs (and believe it of not) most of them believe it spends thousands and thousands of gallons of water per cycle.
At home, after many years with a dishwasher being used only once or twice a year, i finally educated my mom to start using it every day. the only things I do by hand are the barbecure grills because they don't fit inside my compact Brastemp built in.
Wooden spoons & cutting boards in the dw
Keven, I really do hate handwashing, but I'd never wash woodens in the DW.
Wood behaves like a sponge, next time you'll cook with those spoons you'll add some DW detergent and some rinse aid to your recipe
It's better washing wooden items with hot water & baking soda then rinse them with hot water and some white vinegar.
Not to mention the fact that the DW "bakes" wood
Keven, I really do hate handwashing, but I'd never wash woodens in the DW.
Wood behaves like a sponge, next time you'll cook with those spoons you'll add some DW detergent and some rinse aid to your recipe
It's better washing wooden items with hot water & baking soda then rinse them with hot water and some white vinegar.
Not to mention the fact that the DW "bakes" wood
Hi Favorit,
Nah - I've been washing them that way for the last, hmmm, ok, been doing it that way since 1977.
I figure, short of scrubbing them clean with pure salt, any water and or soap mixture is going to soak in - here, at least, I know they're not absorbing icky fat and germs.
This is, I well know, one of the great divides in automatic dishwashing. Wooden utensils aren't forever, I just don't worry about it - buy new ones every two years or so. I'm not talking about high quality teak salad thongs, or beautiful woven wood bowls. I'm talking about the cheap maple wood stuff you get with a spatula and two solid spoons for €3 at Ikea.
But definitely not my cast iron skillets or carbon-steel knives.
(Been having this conversation now for 32 years, too))
Nah - I've been washing them that way for the last, hmmm, ok, been doing it that way since 1977.
I figure, short of scrubbing them clean with pure salt, any water and or soap mixture is going to soak in - here, at least, I know they're not absorbing icky fat and germs.
This is, I well know, one of the great divides in automatic dishwashing. Wooden utensils aren't forever, I just don't worry about it - buy new ones every two years or so. I'm not talking about high quality teak salad thongs, or beautiful woven wood bowls. I'm talking about the cheap maple wood stuff you get with a spatula and two solid spoons for €3 at Ikea.
But definitely not my cast iron skillets or carbon-steel knives.
(Been having this conversation now for 32 years, too
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I still do dishes by hand - I do have an old kitchen aid /Hobart dishwasher that came with the house when I bought it 8 years ago but I`m afraid to use the dishwasher.
