pierreandreply4
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i estimate september 20 2021 do not remember the excat date
has anyone had this problem with there 220 volt dryer?
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Because the plug got hot, the outlet is damaged. The contacts in the outlet have been overheated and will no longer hold the plug tightly or have a good solid connection. This can cause the plug to get hot and fail again.
The outlet should be replaced, no ifs, ands, or butts.
Will it work without replacing the plug? Well, it might. For the price of a good quality outlet, I wouldn't take the chance.
The outlet should be replaced, no ifs, ands, or butts.
Will it work without replacing the plug? Well, it might. For the price of a good quality outlet, I wouldn't take the chance.
pierreandreply4
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new plug was install by a master electician
new plug was install by a master electrician and some should reread the title of my thread the title is as anyone add this problem with there 220 volt dryer if it was the wiring of the plug the electirican would of open up the wall near the outlet to check the wiring that was not needed so going 1 step at a time as i mention and please stay in topic i do not went this topic to become a debate or an argument thread
new plug was install by a master electrician and some should reread the title of my thread the title is as anyone add this problem with there 220 volt dryer if it was the wiring of the plug the electirican would of open up the wall near the outlet to check the wiring that was not needed so going 1 step at a time as i mention and please stay in topic i do not went this topic to become a debate or an argument thread
It matters not how good the electrician is, the outlet got hot, so it's done.
9/20/2021 is your estimate for the date on which the wall outlet was replaced?
You asked about the plug damage on 10/2/2021, the original post on this thread. Is that the day it happened? Or you don't know when the plug damage happened?
What led you to find the damaged plug?
Has the wall outlet been replaced AFTER you found the damaged plug?
What everyone is trying to tell you for the safety of yourself and your mother and your house is that the wall outlet ALSO must be replaced if it has NOT already been replaced AFTER the damage to the plug was found.[this post was last edited: 10/6/2021-18:07]
keith
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We just don’t want your house to burn down….
We are staying on topic…..
If you don’t care about an electrical fire that’s fine, but the plug will burn your house down if it got as hot as the pins on the cord.
End of story.
It’s a Fire hazard that now has an online paper trial, you’ve been put on notice. If the old cord was plugged in EVEN once to the new outlet it MUST be replaced or it’s a fire hazard. M
Period. Hard stop.
Regards,
Keith
We are staying on topic…..
If you don’t care about an electrical fire that’s fine, but the plug will burn your house down if it got as hot as the pins on the cord.
End of story.
It’s a Fire hazard that now has an online paper trial, you’ve been put on notice. If the old cord was plugged in EVEN once to the new outlet it MUST be replaced or it’s a fire hazard. M
Period. Hard stop.
Regards,
Keith
pierreandreply4
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the plug was replace the same day the electrician came Maytag came today but has to order the new dryer cord dryer has not been in use sine the outlet been replace since h=i have not plug the dryer and i doubt it will happen again when new cord is in what the elctrician told us the original plug was poorly install i am no expert so do not know more thatn what i mention
keith
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So if I’m following your explanation the outlet in the wall was replaced after the cord failed, and the dryer was not plugged into the new outlet untill the cord was replaced by the Maytag tech.
If that’s the order of events then you are fine.
However if the dryer was plugged into the new outlet with the damaged cord, the outlet will need to be replaced.
We’re just looking to make sure you and your family are safe, that’s all.
Keith
If that’s the order of events then you are fine.
However if the dryer was plugged into the new outlet with the damaged cord, the outlet will need to be replaced.
We’re just looking to make sure you and your family are safe, that’s all.
Keith
pierreandreply4
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thank you for your concern the parts are on order the cord is not yet replace since the tech needs to order the part plus he will check the dryer control board heating element and termal fuse on the dryer i apoligize for my outburst all of this as stress me a bit
Burned Plug And Outlet On A New Electric Dryer
Its hard to tell whether the outlet or a defective cord caused this problem, in general the outlet is more likely to cause this problem because the field installed wires that attach to the outlet are often not done well.
Reply #14, WOW, apparently service techs are just as bad in Canada as the US,
Any tech that is going to work on an electric dryer with a burned cord and does not show up with this very standard part is wasting everybody's time. [ the master electrical should have also replaced this damaged cord ]
This dryer does not need a thermal fuse, a new heating element much less a control board, I would not let the tech change any of these parts, taking the dryer apart and changing these parts might lead to problems later, they are likely bilking WP for a lot of parts they can sell to others or are just plain stupid.
[Note the cord was not improperly installed on the dryer, if it was improperly installed it would have failed at the terminal block]
We see this type of service problem all too often, The Master Electrician should have changed the outlet and cord, this problem should not have involved Maytag it is not their fault in any possible way.
John L.
Its hard to tell whether the outlet or a defective cord caused this problem, in general the outlet is more likely to cause this problem because the field installed wires that attach to the outlet are often not done well.
Reply #14, WOW, apparently service techs are just as bad in Canada as the US,
Any tech that is going to work on an electric dryer with a burned cord and does not show up with this very standard part is wasting everybody's time. [ the master electrical should have also replaced this damaged cord ]
This dryer does not need a thermal fuse, a new heating element much less a control board, I would not let the tech change any of these parts, taking the dryer apart and changing these parts might lead to problems later, they are likely bilking WP for a lot of parts they can sell to others or are just plain stupid.
[Note the cord was not improperly installed on the dryer, if it was improperly installed it would have failed at the terminal block]
We see this type of service problem all too often, The Master Electrician should have changed the outlet and cord, this problem should not have involved Maytag it is not their fault in any possible way.
John L.
The proper terminology for the parts would be helpful when talking to the tradesmen. The cord assembly that connects to the dryer is a whip. The round outlet on the wall is a receptacle and the part with the burned pins is a plug. So the full whip with the plug and the receptacle should be replaced.
The in-wall receptacle with the corresponding faceplate looks very cheap and poorly installed to me. I wouldn’t be surprised if it is in a plastic box or no box within the wall. Normally I see these in metal boxes with a molded, raised steel cover that provides extra space on the backside of the receptacle.
A burned single pin on a plug is almost always due to an over current situation. Too much current was being drawn by the appliance. On a dryer there are two hots and a neutral, one of the phases will be tapped for the 120V components (light, drum motor, etc.). Barring a low voltage situation, which can cause an appliance to draw more current, the dryer may have a failing motor. This could cause more current to be drawn on one phase and hence the burning of one pin.
It could also be a cheap Chinese whip with a poorly installed pin in the plug that just got loose, arced during use and melted down. Whips usually have a sealed plug so you can’t disassemble it and see how well it was put together inside.
Definitely replace both the plug and receptacle. If it happens again then you most likely have a bad 120V component in the dryer (240V is normally only used by the heating elements in North America).
The in-wall receptacle with the corresponding faceplate looks very cheap and poorly installed to me. I wouldn’t be surprised if it is in a plastic box or no box within the wall. Normally I see these in metal boxes with a molded, raised steel cover that provides extra space on the backside of the receptacle.
A burned single pin on a plug is almost always due to an over current situation. Too much current was being drawn by the appliance. On a dryer there are two hots and a neutral, one of the phases will be tapped for the 120V components (light, drum motor, etc.). Barring a low voltage situation, which can cause an appliance to draw more current, the dryer may have a failing motor. This could cause more current to be drawn on one phase and hence the burning of one pin.
It could also be a cheap Chinese whip with a poorly installed pin in the plug that just got loose, arced during use and melted down. Whips usually have a sealed plug so you can’t disassemble it and see how well it was put together inside.
Definitely replace both the plug and receptacle. If it happens again then you most likely have a bad 120V component in the dryer (240V is normally only used by the heating elements in North America).
pierreandreply4
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will see in time
Will see in time, but should i suggest to my mom that we have the dryer exchange but if the dryer is exchange this means exchanging the washer as well the set in the pic was my choice but when bough in july it was not in stock
Will see in time, but should i suggest to my mom that we have the dryer exchange but if the dryer is exchange this means exchanging the washer as well the set in the pic was my choice but when bough in july it was not in stock
pierreandreply4
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question to combo52
I have a question sorry for posting it here if my mom decide to go with exhange via the store where washer dryer was purchuse do you think i should suggest to my mom that she exchange for speed queen eather model tr7 with matching dryer or speed queen tc5 with matching dryer but negociate that they put them at the price of the maytag set purchuse in july? if my mom opt for exchange because i am starting to suspect that the dryer might be a possible lemon thank you for any answer just went to prepare a plan b if needed to be exchange
I have a question sorry for posting it here if my mom decide to go with exhange via the store where washer dryer was purchuse do you think i should suggest to my mom that she exchange for speed queen eather model tr7 with matching dryer or speed queen tc5 with matching dryer but negociate that they put them at the price of the maytag set purchuse in july? if my mom opt for exchange because i am starting to suspect that the dryer might be a possible lemon thank you for any answer just went to prepare a plan b if needed to be exchange
There is NOTHING WRONG with your MTD, At this point I would go buy a new cord and install it yourself, this is getting ridicules !!!!
The electrician should have done this, can you use a screw driver ?, There are instructions that came with the dryer how to install a cord, have your Mom do it even.
If not get the electrician back to finish the job, I would not let the idiot MT servicer touch your new dryer.
John L.
The electrician should have done this, can you use a screw driver ?, There are instructions that came with the dryer how to install a cord, have your Mom do it even.
If not get the electrician back to finish the job, I would not let the idiot MT servicer touch your new dryer.
John L.
eurekastar
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Video Tutorial
pierreandreply4
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thank you but will let the expert handle this if there something i will never touch its electricety
Unless I’m missing something, isn’t the video in reply #33 a great example of how NOT to do it? It appears to my untrained eye that the dryer would be left dangerously ungrounded if wired as shown in Whirlpool’s video. Shouldn’t the dryer’s white grounding wire be removed from the green screw and attached to the middle terminal block (combined ground & neutral) when using an older-style 3-wire cord?
In any case, the OP is in Canada and has a 4-wire cord (I’m not even sure if 3-wire was ever used for dryers in Canada).
It seems as though the most logical course of action would be to replace the wall receptacle and the dryer cord. I see no reason to suspect any kind of fault with the dryer itself at this stage.
In any case, the OP is in Canada and has a 4-wire cord (I’m not even sure if 3-wire was ever used for dryers in Canada).
It seems as though the most logical course of action would be to replace the wall receptacle and the dryer cord. I see no reason to suspect any kind of fault with the dryer itself at this stage.
pierreandreply4
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sorry for my last post
sorry for my last post its just that i prefer to let expert do the job and the electrician told us a genuine factory part plus the service tech wents to check that it did not cause other damage afraid of fire after all so i feel its best to be safe
sorry for my last post its just that i prefer to let expert do the job and the electrician told us a genuine factory part plus the service tech wents to check that it did not cause other damage afraid of fire after all so i feel its best to be safe
Hi Pierre, your electrician is an idiot also, If he can't change a dryer cord get a different electrician.
Reply #29, Hi Matt, A defective dryer CAN NOT cause the plug and receptacle to fail, If voltage is low the heater amp draw goes DOWN not up, The 4 amp motor could possibility go up to about 5 amps with low voltage but then the motors overload will cut the motor off long before it burns up a 30 amp cord-set.
There is no possible failure of an electric dryer that will cause power draw to go up, and if it does one of the 3 internal fuses or overheat devices will cut off the heater or motor, and if that does not happen and the dryer was drawing more than the30 amps that the cord and outlet is rated for the homes 30 amp breaker will shut it down before it could damage an outlet or cord.
I have been working with these systems all my working life.
This whole problem was caused by a poorly installed outlet or possibility a poorly made cord, nothing more and nothing less.
John L.
[this post was last edited: 10/7/2021-22:03]
Reply #29, Hi Matt, A defective dryer CAN NOT cause the plug and receptacle to fail, If voltage is low the heater amp draw goes DOWN not up, The 4 amp motor could possibility go up to about 5 amps with low voltage but then the motors overload will cut the motor off long before it burns up a 30 amp cord-set.
There is no possible failure of an electric dryer that will cause power draw to go up, and if it does one of the 3 internal fuses or overheat devices will cut off the heater or motor, and if that does not happen and the dryer was drawing more than the30 amps that the cord and outlet is rated for the homes 30 amp breaker will shut it down before it could damage an outlet or cord.
I have been working with these systems all my working life.
This whole problem was caused by a poorly installed outlet or possibility a poorly made cord, nothing more and nothing less.
John L.
[this post was last edited: 10/7/2021-22:03]
Pierre your are WRONG to not listen to the advice given here by by PEOPLE who know appliances! John has over 50 years repairing washers, dryers and other appliances. HE KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT! Open your eyes and ears! Otherwise why are we still flogging this dead horse! You are flogging a dead horse and costing your Mother money! Understand?
