Hotpoint UK circa 1963 brochure & other pics

[liberator1509]

Pre 1968 Hotpoint-English Electric

Hi all - how great that this thread is still going strong - just like a Hotpoint (duck and cover...)

Keith - thanks for the info on the 1966 Liberator Twin - that is really interesting, as it pre-dates both the GEC-AEI and the GEC English Electric mergers (1967 and 1968 respectively), so EE must have 'sub-contracting' to AEI-Hotpoint. There had been an attempt by EE to acquire AEI a year or two before this, so I wonder if this was an attempt at a courtship?

I rather doubt the Liberator Twin was a use-up-the-parts-bin job, rather a case of deliberate badge engineering - a portent of the future indeed and allowing both companies to profit from one design. Hotpoint of course continued to do this for years after, especially in the New Generation era, when Electra, English Electric, Gala and Creda re-badges appeared.

Keith - to you have any ideas what the Twin-star was like - I wonder if this was the same as the elusive Hotpoint Twin-Six? Maybe even the Twin-six was a reciprocal rebadge arrangement. It is a machine i know nothing about apart from a brochure shot on here ages ago.

D

PS - Mathew - good to hear from you too (and in a Hotpoint story no less...goodness...). I'm over on a flying visit next week and will be in Bristol if you're about. Have plans for the 1509 too

 

[keymatic]

Hi All,

Paul, The Liberator Twin as per your picture is nearly neat, and luv the styling, not sure how effective the brush filter would have been against the filter clean tray ? Thanks for the picture & the mail order pics. Paul, I know it's cheeky, but could you send me a copy of that pic of the 1420 with the red background? Cheers muchly !!

David, The EE Twin-star was a pulsator twin tub, I have a nice pamphlet introducing it, i will dig it out and take a pic. It had a weird shaped wash tub. English Electric had a variation of twin tubs, I think from memory they produced one called the "Challenge" when i am back at home on sunday i will have a dig around, and see what i can find.

Great thread, best in a long time.
K

 

[keymatic3203]

twin star

Now I know this as I've seen parts diagrams, the Twin star was essentially the rolls rapide but with a different wash tub design. The spinner was the same as the rolls, the wash tub was square with a slopeing base, a bit like the hoover tub but not the same proportions, the slopeing part facing you as you face the machine. The pulsator was like the hoover but with four fins, it was mounted on the angled base, powered via a belt drive by a similar motor as the spin dryer, ie brush motor. So you can imagine how vigerous this wash action was, the pulsator would be going something like 1000 rpm, similar speed as the spinner from what I've been told by my parts wholesaler, who repaired rolls machines back in the day, apparantly the spin was not as fast as the major brands.

Does anyone else know of a twin or single tub washer using a brush motor for the wash action?

Hope this is interesting and would be great to see your information Keith,

Thanks Mathew

 

[chestermikeuk]

English Electric TwinStar

Heres the English Electric brochure, it is indeed an impellar machine, very similar to the single tub Vactric of the same era - perhaps some tie up??

 

[chestermikeuk]

English Electric

In detail

 

[chestermikeuk]

English Electric..

Control Panel

 

[chestermikeuk]

Brush Motor

heres the underside of the Vactric, it looks very similar to the English Electric - Keith I wonder if the flately has a similar setup??

 

[keymatic]

Hi Mike,

Is that the Twin Star Englsih Electric washer ? The model I was thinking of was more along the lines of what Matthew was saying in the sense that the wash tub had a tub similar to that of the Hoovermatic's and the impellar is set off centre. I think the model i am on about dates maybe from the late 60's..I will dig out the brochure though and take pic's..it has a nice opening line on the front of it "....The Stars Fortell big things for the New Twin Star" or something like that..lol
I will have to have a look under the Flately, I think it will be very similar, if not the same.
David: The elusive Twin-Six was something else, I was fortunate to own one, but it needed so much doing to it, i decided to scrap it.
Cheers
Keith

 

[vacbear58]

Well then there is another one too

Yes folks, there is another version of the EE as well. I dont have pictures to hand her (in office) but there is one mentioned in a Which report (1965 perhaps) with a completly different control panel, although I believe it to be of Tallent (formerly Rolls and later Colston) origin also as the one above is. I will check out when I am home as there are pictures of both the machine and the control panel. Who would have thought there were so many versions?

Al

 

[chestermikeuk]

Well

If The TwinStar is something different then this is another version...lol

I wonder if this is the first model then, dont dare not photograph that machine now!"!, AND Mr whatever are you doing getting rid of that twin six we have 4 1420 that need any types of spares...!!!

 

[vacbear58]

Vactric

Mike

I am curious about the Vactric. Is this the one with the green ridged tub? Actually no, it could not have been as that had an agitator. Unless of course they had two model lines - but I have only ever seen references to the one with the ridged tub. As Vactric went out of business very early in 1960 I would doubt it would have been of Rolls manufacture, unless it came from Holland as I believe the earliest Rolls machines did - the Rolls machines were based on a Dutch design.

Al

 

[keymatic]

Hi Mike, are the pictures you have loaded above from a set of pamphlets that EE produced ? I think I have this set too, laundry, cooking, etc.. Something tells me that would have been the first EE twinny, as those pamphlets advertise the Auto Liberator's, which date from about 1960.

4 1420's ??? I got it off ebay about 3 years ago, and collected it from North London, it was in a poor state, but managed to keep the top grey surround, spinner unit, and other bits. Very, very weird set up with the emptying of the wash tub and spinner. Currently @ work so can't access files, but will over the weekend.

Keith

 

[keymatic]

Hi Al,
Ohhh crumbs don't start about the Vactric..that machine is so in my top 10 of wanted machines..It had a fibreglass washtub, folding Acme power wringer and concealed emptying hose !! fantasic machine, finding one, would be like finding a needle in a haystack.
K

 

[aquarius8000]

thank you all for posting,

Much appreciate it and gives me hours of enjoyment.

 

[vacbear58]

OK, so the count is now up to three

Pre the "Supermatic" EE twinnie

From April 1964 - the 4043, no pictures I am afraid.

 

[vacbear58]

Twin star

The report says the 4043 has been updated to the twinstar - half way down on right hand side. And on a slight drift - I wonder will a Stella Gemini ever turn up

 

[vacbear58]

March 65

Still 4043 but now Twin Star

 

[vacbear58]

Control Panels

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[vacbear58]

A challenge

Try naming all the machines in this picture - i think the EE that Mike posted earlier is at the front, maybe his was the predecessor to the twin star

 

[vacbear58]

Moving on to 1967

This table of convience ratings indicates more forgotten models. The Liberator twin makes it appearence, but I find strange differences between it and the Supermatic considering they were so similar/ The twinstar is stil knocking about too