bradfordwhite
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But WHY?
It doesn't even fit in the spot for a traditional 30" stove.
It doesn't even fit in the spot for a traditional 30" stove.
Induction, baby!
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bradfordwhite
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Realized today on the way home from grocery shopping and passing a Wendy's, since I got my air-fry oven back in July I haven't stopped at any fast food restaurants since.
In the past I would maybe stop twice a month and get something minor.
It's changed me. Why would I want to eat their bland stuff now when I've been custom making really good stuff at home.
These taste just like McD fries in the air fryer but without the hot oil.
In the past I would maybe stop twice a month and get something minor.
It's changed me. Why would I want to eat their bland stuff now when I've been custom making really good stuff at home.
These taste just like McD fries in the air fryer but without the hot oil.
Professional Range ???
Why, takes longer to pre-heat, takes more power, you have to bend over farther to use the oven, the large ovens don't self-clean worth a darn, no storage drawer, you have to get on the floor and clean under it every time you clean the kitchen floor.
If you have this kind of money to spend get a wall oven or two and a 36" cook-top if you want a larger CT.
John L.
Why, takes longer to pre-heat, takes more power, you have to bend over farther to use the oven, the large ovens don't self-clean worth a darn, no storage drawer, you have to get on the floor and clean under it every time you clean the kitchen floor.
If you have this kind of money to spend get a wall oven or two and a 36" cook-top if you want a larger CT.
John L.
Frigidaire 30" Induction Ranges
While I think these are a good buy we just had another customer that had to replace the range after only 4 years because of repair expense,
The range needed a new ERC last year coming $450, this time one of the main induction modules failed potential cost of repair over $600 so they replaced it with another FD induction range.
In general the GE induction ranges are holding up much better than FD.
John L.
While I think these are a good buy we just had another customer that had to replace the range after only 4 years because of repair expense,
The range needed a new ERC last year coming $450, this time one of the main induction modules failed potential cost of repair over $600 so they replaced it with another FD induction range.
In general the GE induction ranges are holding up much better than FD.
John L.
Someone complained, falsely it seems . . .
. . . that the black trim surrounding the cooktop and going up to the control panel on Frigidaire induction ranges is plastic prone to damage if a hot pan is dragged over it.
Magnets reveal the truth. It’s metal with what appears to be black powder coat.
. . . that the black trim surrounding the cooktop and going up to the control panel on Frigidaire induction ranges is plastic prone to damage if a hot pan is dragged over it.
Magnets reveal the truth. It’s metal with what appears to be black powder coat.
To, Joe!
Maybe I have not read thoroughly, but have you had success with the oven and broiler?
Does the broiler have a lo/hi setting?
Lawrence/Maytabbear
Maybe I have not read thoroughly, but have you had success with the oven and broiler?
Does the broiler have a lo/hi setting?
Lawrence/Maytabbear
Haven’t used the broiler yet. Broiler has hi/lo settings and, contrary to what we’ve been told for at least a century about electric ovens, you broil with the oven door CLOSED.
Oven performs like a champ on the Bake setting with cold-start recipes like No-Boil Baked Pasta. Takes about 12 to 13 minutes to hit 350F but the results are the same as with the old Hotpoint gasser that needed only 10 minutes. Maybe the heat retention is better. Both are/were self-cleaning.
Quick Preheat brings it to 400F in about 3 ½ minutes to spark a frozen pizza.
Air-Fry puts a nice crunch on frozen breaded chicken strips. The air fry tray comes out of the dishwasher sparkling. We use the bottom of a broiler pan on a lower shelf to catch drippings. Easy-Off Fume Free mops up any burned-on gunk on the catch pan.
bradfordwhite
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It used to be dressing up plastic to look like metal was a thing. Now it's the opposite?
The battle to deceive rages on.
It used to be dressing up plastic to look like metal was a thing. Now it's the opposite?
The battle to deceive rages on.
I would have said metal makes a whole lot more sense there.
Most induction cookers have a lot of shielding in them due to the high magnetic fields and the astounding amount of noisy switching electrics.
So you could either shield each module individually or all together in a big metal box.
Black powder coating probably because the metal they had to choose wasn't very nice looking or wouldn't handle the stress and wear of a cooktop well.
Most induction cookers have a lot of shielding in them due to the high magnetic fields and the astounding amount of noisy switching electrics.
So you could either shield each module individually or all together in a big metal box.
Black powder coating probably because the metal they had to choose wasn't very nice looking or wouldn't handle the stress and wear of a cooktop well.
The IKEA version . . .
. . . also has the black metal trim surrounding the <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">burners</span>, uh, <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">heating elements</span>, er, induction zones.
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. . . also has the black metal trim surrounding the <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">burners</span>, uh, <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">heating elements</span>, er, induction zones.
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bradfordwhite
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Does an induction "burner" actually make noise when running?
Speaking of the 30/36" cooktops (only)...is my suspicion correct that they're all coming off the same production line in China? There are some ridiculous name ones for $599, some vaguely recognizable names for $999, some rational names (Sharp, Fisher and Paykel) for $1399, some normal (Frigidaire) names for $1799, some luxury names (Viking) for $2599. Are there any differerences?
bradfordwhite
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theatrics on the appliance manufacturing line
It's an old story. Is there ever really much difference between various different models in a manufacturers line-up?
It's an old story. Is there ever really much difference between various different models in a manufacturers line-up?
@jamiel
Can't say for sure, of course.
But it would make a whole lot of sense.
Just like any Intel processor comes off of the same line basically, induction cooking could work the same way.
Depending on what the manufacturer wants in term of average life span and/or price, parts are just swapped out.
The more you spend, the longer it lasts.
Best way to look out for that is software things.
Like how is the stepping of the power, how does it behave as you increase power.
Even stuff like the same error codes.
Can't say for sure, of course.
But it would make a whole lot of sense.
Just like any Intel processor comes off of the same line basically, induction cooking could work the same way.
Depending on what the manufacturer wants in term of average life span and/or price, parts are just swapped out.
The more you spend, the longer it lasts.
Best way to look out for that is software things.
Like how is the stepping of the power, how does it behave as you increase power.
Even stuff like the same error codes.
Does an induction "burner" . . .
. . . actually make noise when running?
110V countertop cooktops have cooling fans that run from power-on to after shut off to cool the magnetic coil. None of that heat actually gets to the pot or pan. The fan noise is usually lower than the sound of a running microwave oven.
Cookware sometimes buzzes or rings, which is also true on 220V ranges and built-in cooktops. It's the nature of the beast. The cooling is quieter on a range or built-in especially at lower settings, possibly because the fans are buried under the cooktop. Even on Power Boost on the Frigidaire, the cookware sound masks most of the cooling fan sound. You really have to listen for it.
Feel free to chime in, fellow inductors!
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. . . actually make noise when running?
110V countertop cooktops have cooling fans that run from power-on to after shut off to cool the magnetic coil. None of that heat actually gets to the pot or pan. The fan noise is usually lower than the sound of a running microwave oven.
Cookware sometimes buzzes or rings, which is also true on 220V ranges and built-in cooktops. It's the nature of the beast. The cooling is quieter on a range or built-in especially at lower settings, possibly because the fans are buried under the cooktop. Even on Power Boost on the Frigidaire, the cookware sound masks most of the cooling fan sound. You really have to listen for it.
Feel free to chime in, fellow inductors!
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"The more you spend, the longer it lasts."
Not in the USA.
The reality here is "The more you can charge for something, the merrier. The less it can last, also the merrier." It doesn't matter if it's a freaking expensive or silly cheap.
People love to say China is bad, China makes terrible quality products. Yes, China is famous for that, but that is not a strict rule and a lot has changed. China is doing their homework.
The reality is several appliances made in China actually last much longer than the sisters made in USA.
An example: Magic Chef top load washers vs Whirlpool top load washers.
The "Chinese crap" surprisingly does what a washer should do. It washes VERY decently, It's gentle on clothes, it rinses properly. More surprised you'll be when you realize those "crappy" washers last average three times more than a Whirlpool washer that comes with a "Made in America" sticker...
Last year I sold my Magic Chef washer and now I regret only 1.6 cu ft capacity of HIGH QUALITY. It was my very first washer here in the USA when I was still living at Extended Stay America in Dallas, before renting an apartment.
In 5 years it NEVER failed, it never had a hiccup, nothing...
The person who bought is is VERY happy, the washer (and the matching dryer) keep going strong. They're simple, they're not full of bells and whistles, but they WORK and the little they do, they do it right.
When it arrived, I wasn't expecting much. I just needed a bigger washer to wash my uniform every day That Magic Chef fit as a glove to my needs at that time and it was inexpensive. Purchased at Walmart if I'm not mistaken.
I got rid of it because I needed space in my laundry room. Someone gave me a "brand new" Maytag Centennial proudly "Made in America" that was used once and the person hated it. The very first time I used the Maytag I could understand why it was hated. That washer is pathetic. NOTHING comes out clean. The rinse is laughable... a 3-second spray with the drum almost stopped. Then you select the "extra rinse"... WOW, a 100% improvement! instead of a 3 second spray with the drum stopped, there are TWO 3-second sprays with the drum almost stopped. (rolling eyes).
There's more.... it had a "deep rinse" option Yay, finally a decent rinse, right? WRONG! The washer would fill with 1 inch of water and start agitating like crazy for 10 seconds to, in theory, use the agitator to splash the clothes with fabric softener.
If I had the space, I'd definitely buy another Magic Chef just because that washer is AWESOME.
Not in the USA.
The reality here is "The more you can charge for something, the merrier. The less it can last, also the merrier." It doesn't matter if it's a freaking expensive or silly cheap.
People love to say China is bad, China makes terrible quality products. Yes, China is famous for that, but that is not a strict rule and a lot has changed. China is doing their homework.
The reality is several appliances made in China actually last much longer than the sisters made in USA.
An example: Magic Chef top load washers vs Whirlpool top load washers.
The "Chinese crap" surprisingly does what a washer should do. It washes VERY decently, It's gentle on clothes, it rinses properly. More surprised you'll be when you realize those "crappy" washers last average three times more than a Whirlpool washer that comes with a "Made in America" sticker...
Last year I sold my Magic Chef washer and now I regret only 1.6 cu ft capacity of HIGH QUALITY. It was my very first washer here in the USA when I was still living at Extended Stay America in Dallas, before renting an apartment.
In 5 years it NEVER failed, it never had a hiccup, nothing...
The person who bought is is VERY happy, the washer (and the matching dryer) keep going strong. They're simple, they're not full of bells and whistles, but they WORK and the little they do, they do it right.
When it arrived, I wasn't expecting much. I just needed a bigger washer to wash my uniform every day That Magic Chef fit as a glove to my needs at that time and it was inexpensive. Purchased at Walmart if I'm not mistaken.
I got rid of it because I needed space in my laundry room. Someone gave me a "brand new" Maytag Centennial proudly "Made in America" that was used once and the person hated it. The very first time I used the Maytag I could understand why it was hated. That washer is pathetic. NOTHING comes out clean. The rinse is laughable... a 3-second spray with the drum almost stopped. Then you select the "extra rinse"... WOW, a 100% improvement! instead of a 3 second spray with the drum stopped, there are TWO 3-second sprays with the drum almost stopped. (rolling eyes).
There's more.... it had a "deep rinse" option Yay, finally a decent rinse, right? WRONG! The washer would fill with 1 inch of water and start agitating like crazy for 10 seconds to, in theory, use the agitator to splash the clothes with fabric softener.
If I had the space, I'd definitely buy another Magic Chef just because that washer is AWESOME.
bradfordwhite
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Was it:
For what one could spend on a new washer you could buy 3 to 6 of these and have greater capacity but do different type loads at the same time. And they'd probably come out cleaner.
For what one could spend on a new washer you could buy 3 to 6 of these and have greater capacity but do different type loads at the same time. And they'd probably come out cleaner.
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bradfordwhite
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Noise - Induction
Thanks for the info. Joe.
Noise is not my friend. I'm sure induction is way more efficient though.
I think for now, I'm going to stick with my $9 conventional burner units. They work with my copper bottomed Reverware with no problems or disc adapters.
Thanks for the info. Joe.
Noise is not my friend. I'm sure induction is way more efficient though.
I think for now, I'm going to stick with my $9 conventional burner units. They work with my copper bottomed Reverware with no problems or disc adapters.
Inflation hits the sale prices
As of this posting, $1,098.00 at Home Depot, $1,099.00 at Lowe’s, $1,099.99 at Best Buy.
Everyone’s up $100.00 from before Thanksgiving and well into Christmas shopping season.
As of this posting, $1,098.00 at Home Depot, $1,099.00 at Lowe’s, $1,099.99 at Best Buy.
Everyone’s up $100.00 from before Thanksgiving and well into Christmas shopping season.
bradfordwhite
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I made onion rings in my air fry oven tonight. Outside of course, where I always use it.
I've learned NEVER to make those inside as the cooking smell lingers for about a week.
When I stepped outside after 5 minutes of cooking to flip them, the smell coming out was <span style="text-decoration: underline;">strong</span> but the breeze just blew it away.
Perfect onion rings after about 10 minutes of cooking. I never got those results with a standard oven.
I've learned NEVER to make those inside as the cooking smell lingers for about a week.
When I stepped outside after 5 minutes of cooking to flip them, the smell coming out was <span style="text-decoration: underline;">strong</span> but the breeze just blew it away.
Perfect onion rings after about 10 minutes of cooking. I never got those results with a standard oven.
