Phil, yes and yes. I brought the old ones with me, and asked someone working in the department to match them. She showed me that on the back of all the boxes of different sizes, there is an actual scaled circle of the size o-ring contained in the box (I believe they come two per package if I remember), so it was easy to match them up. The size she ended up selecting for me was 1/4" inside diameter x 3.8" outside diameter x 1/16" thickness. I don't use my KDS-58C as often as I did before I got my KUDS23, but I still run it every now and then. The next time I do a load in the 58, I will take off the front panel to see if any drips have returned. At the same time, I need to check the rinse agent dispenser, as I've noticed the last few times I've run a cycle, there is no "clunk" at the beginning of the last rinse fill.