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[combo52]

Uncooked Pizza Etc In A DW

This is one of the most ridiculous demonstrations I have ever seen, the only thing it shows is how messy filter type DWs can get, Leaving Cheese behind really.

 

Hi Louis, Water pressure, delivery, spray patterns are really important and one of the three most important parts of great DW performance, In fact I have never seen a DW that did a great job with weak spray patterns and poor distribution. All things being equal the bigger the jets and the higher the pressure the better the DW will work.

 

John L.

 

[murando531]

Neither of those videos demonstrated anything to me other than what I already know about these machines, and I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels that way. It's humorous that AV, or whatever these people call themselves, considered this a win on the dishwasher's side. Hell, the thing took the full hour just to get it out of the rack, only because it had been soaking wet long enough to break down the dough, and for the last sped-up 30 minutes, the machine couldn't even spray water because of the clogging. The PowerClean, or any dishwasher worth having, would have disentegrated the thing during the prewash and it would have been down the drain where it belonged.

 

[foraloysius]

John,

Pressure on it's own never has removed baked on stuff. It's the chemicals that remove that. I understand why so many people like lots of water in dishwashers, it makes them faster indeed. But in the end it boils down how much water with detergent is sprayed on the dishes. Modern dishwashers do that with less powerful sprays but for a longer time. I'm probably cursing in the church here, but many modern dishwashers do a good job, it is the same as in the past, there were good and there were not so good dishwashers.

 

[retro-man]

Did a load of dishes yesterday in my 2 year old Whirlpool tall tub. Normal wash with hi temp washing and heated dry. Used powdered Cascade complete in both cups. Everything came out spotless. Ok here is the kicker, the dishes had sat dirty in the dishwasher for 5 weeks. Pasta bowls, frying pan and assorted dishes and glasses. Between snow storms every weekend and having the flu was not able to get to this house for that long. Was supposed to be back the following week to run it but time got away. Very please with newer Whirpool dishwashers. Cycle time was around 1 1/2 hours. We have extremely hot water here in this building. I am sure a vintage machine would have done this also, but the newer ones work well I am finding as well.

Jon

 

[washer111]

Placing a whole pizza or other food item in the dishwasher is unrealistic - not many, if any people would manage to put that much soil on dishes. When dealing with such a mess, isn't is obvious that the filter will get clogged?

Washing a more realistic load, with soils of varying types (proteins, tomato, grease, fine particles) is a far better way to test the performance of a dishwasher. In this case, the (hopefully) high temperature will disintegrate larger particles of food, where they are collected in the filter, and typically flushed away by the wash arm.
The filter then self-cleans furthermore during the drainage cycle.

Given the reports of barely tepid washing temperatures in American machines, is it little wonder the filters might be more prone to clogging? The high temperature action found in European machines, as I said before, helps to disintegrate the largest particles into mush (soup), which can be safely flushed away. Of course, insisting on short cycles and low temperatures won't help.

That said, however, our resident member Frigilux (Eugene) has clearly demonstrated there is no issue with using filter machines on very dirty loads. He has reported no significant collection of food stuffs, if at all on the filters on his recent GE machine.

In my own experience, using the shorter, cooler cycles does result in additional buildup within the filters of the DishDrawer. While dishes still come out clean, it may not be particularly reassuring if you don't pay a lot of attention to the filters. Using longer, hotter cycles frequently seems to prevent buildup, and this seems to parallel what other members with these machines have suggested (or members whose machine's programming features high temperatures and 1-2 extra water changes by default).

 

[frigilux]

I've had the GE for over a year and have never had to clean the large flat filter screen on the floor of the machine. The cylindrical filter gets a quick rinse under the faucet every 2-3 weeks---and there's never much on it. I was not looking forward to owning a dishwasher with a manual-clean filter, but it's been no trouble at all.

Having said that, I read somewhere there's a self-cleaning filter (as opposed to having a grinder) on some forthcoming machines.