Late Hanukkah present, Speed Queen Solid Tub
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if your tub is slightly indexing....Mark you may have to lift off the fluid drive and grease the bearing shaft.....
also for the overfill of the WARM temp, since your valve may have been replaced, yours may not have the restrictor which would control water flow equally....one can be added one way or another....or for a WARM wash, set the level selector to Medium load....not like your not there to monitor the first fill anyway....not to mention the whole cycle...lol.....
congrats and welcome to Solidtub washing and overflo rinsing......
thats close to a 700 rpm spin as well....
also for the overfill of the WARM temp, since your valve may have been replaced, yours may not have the restrictor which would control water flow equally....one can be added one way or another....or for a WARM wash, set the level selector to Medium load....not like your not there to monitor the first fill anyway....not to mention the whole cycle...lol.....
congrats and welcome to Solidtub washing and overflo rinsing......
thats close to a 700 rpm spin as well....
Hey Martin---
Martin----It's the agitator that indexes, not the tub. I watch that black tape, it goes clockwise 183 deg, back only 182, slowly creeping around the tub, very slowly. no worries. But not 210.
I have great water pressure, it seems between Large and Medium is right for a full load that starts with only a small amount of overflow. That's gotta be the easiest way to learn and adjust to a solid tub/time fill. And while the timer feels exact and solid, like Norge or 1-18 instead of Maytag, there are no detents for Large-Med-Small fill. I'll learn, and yes, I watch it all anyhows.
Malcolm---Very kind of you to offer a chrome cap--check your email--Thanks
This is a DA3780, tons of parts places list it and have over 20 diagrams---my Ephemera download is a 1975 SQ Line, does NOT list this DA3780, shows various stainless tub and porcelain, time versus pressure fill, one and 2 speed, etc. And the catalog explains each step of a cycle. This model seems to have the best of both worlds cycle-wise. For the deep rinse, there's no choice of fill, the agitation starts at about 85% full, and water continues for another minute. So without any spray rinse on Normal cycle, you nevertheless get agi-overflow rinse in wash, and again at both the start and finish of the deep rinse. So far, a big load of towels in high-sudsing Gain came out clean rinsed in one cycle. Most other machines, I give towels a second rinse and fab soft then. Also, the extraction in this model is great, that helps heavy towels better than a Kenmore at 550 rpms.
Fabric softening----I've seen videos of SQ with an agitator moiunted FS dispenser, but I think it's a waste for this model. With the overflow start of rinse, lots owuld go right overboard quick. I add a bit duing rinse agi once the water has stopped, cuz I like the smell and feel for towels, Other than that, I think I will treat this as a non Fab Sof machine.
Sweztoy-----you mentioned this is a "pre-brake" model. I'm new to SQ, but shutting it off in spin brakes in under 10 seconds, something is doing that. It ain't like a Norge with the slow slow slow end of cycle spindown. In another week, I'll be getting inside this for some lube and paint and de-rust, and I'll take pics. With my limited--very--knowledge of SQ solid tubs, and not knowing the exact year, etc, all I know is it is time fill, one speed, BOL options and small tub but well built.
The entire 6 models in 1975 had the exact same 2 cycle timer, with differences only for time versus pressure fills.
John L---no bleached white loads yet, I'll let you know. But seeing everything else, and those thick towels come so clear and clean, I bet one normal cycle will do the trick.. If I add one dose of FS after the initial rinse overflow, my guess is all bleach stink will be gone and undies will be white and smell fresh. I am 45 years too old to use the word undies.
MickyD----suds saving---There's no way in hell I can Rube Goldberg up a way to return suds, but plugging the sink to suck them into a different washer is fine. This model is small, some overflow comes right at the start of agitation, and in Normal cycle it uses WASH TEMP for the wash overflow. Between the small tub and the overflow and the spinout, it fills my 21 gallon washtubs just like the Kenmore and the GE(my factory suds FF saves suds just until the spray starts, not the entire pumpout) . So the saved suds will end up diluted noticeably, but still hot as hell, I can just add more soap in the next machine. Yes, I have to switch the hose to the unplugged sink for the rest of the cycle, but I am used to that with various Mark-rigged sudsaver models, no problem. And to save some water in the water heater, I can choose to switch to cold after the wash fill. Then the wash overflow is cold, giving me warm suds for next load if I don't want all hot.
Enough for now---thanks for all your advice----Solid Tub washing is new and fun---
Martin----It's the agitator that indexes, not the tub. I watch that black tape, it goes clockwise 183 deg, back only 182, slowly creeping around the tub, very slowly. no worries. But not 210.
I have great water pressure, it seems between Large and Medium is right for a full load that starts with only a small amount of overflow. That's gotta be the easiest way to learn and adjust to a solid tub/time fill. And while the timer feels exact and solid, like Norge or 1-18 instead of Maytag, there are no detents for Large-Med-Small fill. I'll learn, and yes, I watch it all anyhows.
Malcolm---Very kind of you to offer a chrome cap--check your email--Thanks
This is a DA3780, tons of parts places list it and have over 20 diagrams---my Ephemera download is a 1975 SQ Line, does NOT list this DA3780, shows various stainless tub and porcelain, time versus pressure fill, one and 2 speed, etc. And the catalog explains each step of a cycle. This model seems to have the best of both worlds cycle-wise. For the deep rinse, there's no choice of fill, the agitation starts at about 85% full, and water continues for another minute. So without any spray rinse on Normal cycle, you nevertheless get agi-overflow rinse in wash, and again at both the start and finish of the deep rinse. So far, a big load of towels in high-sudsing Gain came out clean rinsed in one cycle. Most other machines, I give towels a second rinse and fab soft then. Also, the extraction in this model is great, that helps heavy towels better than a Kenmore at 550 rpms.
Fabric softening----I've seen videos of SQ with an agitator moiunted FS dispenser, but I think it's a waste for this model. With the overflow start of rinse, lots owuld go right overboard quick. I add a bit duing rinse agi once the water has stopped, cuz I like the smell and feel for towels, Other than that, I think I will treat this as a non Fab Sof machine.
Sweztoy-----you mentioned this is a "pre-brake" model. I'm new to SQ, but shutting it off in spin brakes in under 10 seconds, something is doing that. It ain't like a Norge with the slow slow slow end of cycle spindown. In another week, I'll be getting inside this for some lube and paint and de-rust, and I'll take pics. With my limited--very--knowledge of SQ solid tubs, and not knowing the exact year, etc, all I know is it is time fill, one speed, BOL options and small tub but well built.
The entire 6 models in 1975 had the exact same 2 cycle timer, with differences only for time versus pressure fills.
John L---no bleached white loads yet, I'll let you know. But seeing everything else, and those thick towels come so clear and clean, I bet one normal cycle will do the trick.. If I add one dose of FS after the initial rinse overflow, my guess is all bleach stink will be gone and undies will be white and smell fresh. I am 45 years too old to use the word undies.
MickyD----suds saving---There's no way in hell I can Rube Goldberg up a way to return suds, but plugging the sink to suck them into a different washer is fine. This model is small, some overflow comes right at the start of agitation, and in Normal cycle it uses WASH TEMP for the wash overflow. Between the small tub and the overflow and the spinout, it fills my 21 gallon washtubs just like the Kenmore and the GE(my factory suds FF saves suds just until the spray starts, not the entire pumpout) . So the saved suds will end up diluted noticeably, but still hot as hell, I can just add more soap in the next machine. Yes, I have to switch the hose to the unplugged sink for the rest of the cycle, but I am used to that with various Mark-rigged sudsaver models, no problem. And to save some water in the water heater, I can choose to switch to cold after the wash fill. Then the wash overflow is cold, giving me warm suds for next load if I don't want all hot.
Enough for now---thanks for all your advice----Solid Tub washing is new and fun---
I'm excited for you also
I dig seeing old machines rescued and put to good use. I have a "twice loved" appliance store just down the street. Think I will nose around tomorrow and if a vintage SQ with the famous Arc-U-Cuate 210 transmission is begging for a home......................................
I dig seeing old machines rescued and put to good use. I have a "twice loved" appliance store just down the street. Think I will nose around tomorrow and if a vintage SQ with the famous Arc-U-Cuate 210 transmission is begging for a home......................................
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More loads washed, but this tub is actually a size smaller than my 1960 WP Imperial Mark XII. Sort of surprising for 1973 or so. And blue jeans are heavy and hard to turn over, they swash a decent amount of water out, so by the time the overflow starts, it's getting a low water level and far less turnover. Same thing with a single bed blanket. But towels, bedsheets, shirts, socks, dress pants, etc, are getting great turnover and great rinsing. There are warnings in a variety of literature that on medium or small, the overflow never really overflows, it just fills up. But how often does anyone do a 3 or 6 pound load? Double bed sheets set and 4 pillowcases and maybe half a dozen cotton boxers is a perfect full load.
Various research on this model DA3780 versus 1975 FA3510 and FA3690 strongly suggests this is literally the smallest tub SQ did in the 70's. With this as DA3780, would D just be a year earlier than 1975's F designation?
Properly loaded within its minor limitations, this is a great turnover and first rate rinsing washer, and also approx 650RPM extraction. At 38.5 gallons per load for 8-9 pounds, it's not exactly efficient, but neither is a Filter-Flo or Norge, but this one has clear and clean results.
The pump-----I know they carried this same pump over from their wringer machines, I was expecting slow pumping. But while it doesn't have as much water to drain as a FF or a large tub Maytag, holy sh$t is it's all out in 35 seconds, it blew the hose out of the sink!
I've bought various washers and driers and dishwashers at prices from $20 to $200, then requiring varying amounts of repairs. Sometimes one will piss me off, others are a great find. This one instead seems exactly worth the $150, it has been serviced routinely and recently, fully in working order with new valves and pump and all hoses, etc. simple "plug and play."
I am actually thinking I'll make that homemade Fels recipe liquid/gel soap that's on this website somewhere. As an overflow design machine from the soap era instead of detergent, I want to see some actual curds going over the top. The clothes will get washed next time in some other machine, I'm not worried about residue buildup, etc, it;ll just be fun for this machine until one batch of soap is gone.
AW Member Malcolm has kindly offered one decorative improvement, a chrome cap for the dull agitator. Once that arrives and I make a Fels soap batch, I'll get a vidoe posted.
The console screams BOL and laundromat, doesn't it?
More loads washed, but this tub is actually a size smaller than my 1960 WP Imperial Mark XII. Sort of surprising for 1973 or so. And blue jeans are heavy and hard to turn over, they swash a decent amount of water out, so by the time the overflow starts, it's getting a low water level and far less turnover. Same thing with a single bed blanket. But towels, bedsheets, shirts, socks, dress pants, etc, are getting great turnover and great rinsing. There are warnings in a variety of literature that on medium or small, the overflow never really overflows, it just fills up. But how often does anyone do a 3 or 6 pound load? Double bed sheets set and 4 pillowcases and maybe half a dozen cotton boxers is a perfect full load.
Various research on this model DA3780 versus 1975 FA3510 and FA3690 strongly suggests this is literally the smallest tub SQ did in the 70's. With this as DA3780, would D just be a year earlier than 1975's F designation?
Properly loaded within its minor limitations, this is a great turnover and first rate rinsing washer, and also approx 650RPM extraction. At 38.5 gallons per load for 8-9 pounds, it's not exactly efficient, but neither is a Filter-Flo or Norge, but this one has clear and clean results.
The pump-----I know they carried this same pump over from their wringer machines, I was expecting slow pumping. But while it doesn't have as much water to drain as a FF or a large tub Maytag, holy sh$t is it's all out in 35 seconds, it blew the hose out of the sink!
I've bought various washers and driers and dishwashers at prices from $20 to $200, then requiring varying amounts of repairs. Sometimes one will piss me off, others are a great find. This one instead seems exactly worth the $150, it has been serviced routinely and recently, fully in working order with new valves and pump and all hoses, etc. simple "plug and play."
I am actually thinking I'll make that homemade Fels recipe liquid/gel soap that's on this website somewhere. As an overflow design machine from the soap era instead of detergent, I want to see some actual curds going over the top. The clothes will get washed next time in some other machine, I'm not worried about residue buildup, etc, it;ll just be fun for this machine until one batch of soap is gone.
AW Member Malcolm has kindly offered one decorative improvement, a chrome cap for the dull agitator. Once that arrives and I make a Fels soap batch, I'll get a vidoe posted.
The console screams BOL and laundromat, doesn't it?
saving wash water
If you have more than one washer, you don't have to drain the suds into a tub, you just put the drain hose, maybe with an extension so it will reach, into the machine you want to use next and let the wash water fill it.
I wonder if the transmission has a 210 degree arc which delivers the 180 arc to the agitator. Maybe that is what they are talking about.
Have fun with her.
If you have more than one washer, you don't have to drain the suds into a tub, you just put the drain hose, maybe with an extension so it will reach, into the machine you want to use next and let the wash water fill it.
I wonder if the transmission has a 210 degree arc which delivers the 180 arc to the agitator. Maybe that is what they are talking about.
Have fun with her.
everythingold
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Nice score
These are not common. Beautiful.
These are not common. Beautiful.
A little late to the party here, but.............
WOW Mark, CONGRATS!!!
I would love to find one of these earlier, standard capacity Speed Queens!
Very awesome!
Kevin
WOW Mark, CONGRATS!!!
I would love to find one of these earlier, standard capacity Speed Queens!
Very awesome!
Kevin
hey
any/all washing videos of mine are here---a few are the Speed Queen. On YouTube, I am alleghany100
any/all washing videos of mine are here---a few are the Speed Queen. On YouTube, I am alleghany100
My god that made my day
Just listening to the famous Arc-Cuate transmission, proven in millions of installations, really made my day watching it carry the freight on washday!
Congrats!
May this machine give you many years of good clean laundry.
Just listening to the famous Arc-Cuate transmission, proven in millions of installations, really made my day watching it carry the freight on washday!
Congrats!
May this machine give you many years of good clean laundry.
hippiedoll
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akronman...
very cool videos.
that is a really clean looking speed queen. how high does the water get when it is "overflowing"?? i tried to see that part in your video but i didn't catch that. i was curious to see it overflowing to see how that worked exactly. do you actually see the water overflowing?
and i love the control panel on your turquoise soft heat dryer. that is a kenmore, right? very cool looking!!!
and your speed queen solid tub looks great with it's new chrome agitator cap!!!
thanks for sharing the pics
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very cool videos.
that is a really clean looking speed queen. how high does the water get when it is "overflowing"?? i tried to see that part in your video but i didn't catch that. i was curious to see it overflowing to see how that worked exactly. do you actually see the water overflowing?
and i love the control panel on your turquoise soft heat dryer. that is a kenmore, right? very cool looking!!!
and your speed queen solid tub looks great with it's new chrome agitator cap!!!
thanks for sharing the pics
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Overflow
the overflowing is at the unseen outer edges of the tub, out benenath the top of the machine. The water level rises to about 1/2inch below the clothes guard, then you can see the overflow coming out the drain hose. I will try another vidoe soon, I'm better at laundry than at filming.
the overflowing is at the unseen outer edges of the tub, out benenath the top of the machine. The water level rises to about 1/2inch below the clothes guard, then you can see the overflow coming out the drain hose. I will try another vidoe soon, I'm better at laundry than at filming.
amazing
wow does tightening the belts 4 years later improve everything this machine did poorly in the last 6 months! Damn that was an easy fix!
Part of me still wishes it was the famous stainless steel, larger tub, and 2 speeds would be nice, but this 1973 or 4 BOL scrubs, cleans, and rinses in great solid tub fashion.
wow does tightening the belts 4 years later improve everything this machine did poorly in the last 6 months! Damn that was an easy fix!
Part of me still wishes it was the famous stainless steel, larger tub, and 2 speeds would be nice, but this 1973 or 4 BOL scrubs, cleans, and rinses in great solid tub fashion.
Mark, you have a beautiful machine. I can't imagine life without one of the old SQ's. IMO they do a great job and I haven't found a thing I can't wash in one other than a very bulky item such as a comforter or sleeping bag and I would not subject a standard size machine to that abuse,anyway.
Mine is an MA62B. It has a beautiful speckled porcelain tub that I like much better than the cold steel type. It was originally a Three-Speed machine,however the original motor was long ago replaced by a Single-Speed motor. Makes no difference to me. I rarely use a Delicate Cycle on any machine and most of my old troupers have Two-Speeds, anyway.
Getting the belts tensioned properly is critical for my machine. Too loose and performance is lame, too tight and it overheats.
The pump seems to be the only thing that ever gives any trouble,so far. It locked-up early this summer and I had to open it up, clean it out and replace the lubricant. Wrestling it in and out within the confines of the brackets and braces proved to be much more of a hassle than working on the pump.
I love my old SQ. It has been a daily driver for me for over ten years now, along with a few others. I would seriously miss it if it was gone. It has quite the personality as machines go, complete with banging and slamming solenoids. It doesn't like cold weather and when the temperature in my basement drops below 70 degrees in the winter months, it refuses to fill during the Wash! The Rinse is no problem! I've learned to live with it and it just see's little use during the cold months, unless I stand there and fill it in the Rinse and then re-start it in the Wash. A quirky timer, I suppose.
I also have an end-of-the-run solid-tub machine. The SS tub is very large and the agitator is over-sized to match. It is a reversing-motor type. I don't use it much as due to Government interference, it doesn't allow enough time for the tub to completely fill in the Rinse and I have very high water pressure! I removed the flow restrictors and even tried a generic valve system to no avail. It probably helped save a few gallons of water and helped SQ with the ratings. It also pretty much made a decent overflow rinse impossible. If I were electronically gifted I would add an increment of fill time to the Rinse.
Oh well, water conservation and old machines are in opposite corners anyway. Water in my area is still pretty cheap, so I am able to use my old machines.
I hope you really enjoy yours!
Best wishes![this post was last edited: 8/18/2017-16:25]
Mine is an MA62B. It has a beautiful speckled porcelain tub that I like much better than the cold steel type. It was originally a Three-Speed machine,however the original motor was long ago replaced by a Single-Speed motor. Makes no difference to me. I rarely use a Delicate Cycle on any machine and most of my old troupers have Two-Speeds, anyway.
Getting the belts tensioned properly is critical for my machine. Too loose and performance is lame, too tight and it overheats.
The pump seems to be the only thing that ever gives any trouble,so far. It locked-up early this summer and I had to open it up, clean it out and replace the lubricant. Wrestling it in and out within the confines of the brackets and braces proved to be much more of a hassle than working on the pump.
I love my old SQ. It has been a daily driver for me for over ten years now, along with a few others. I would seriously miss it if it was gone. It has quite the personality as machines go, complete with banging and slamming solenoids. It doesn't like cold weather and when the temperature in my basement drops below 70 degrees in the winter months, it refuses to fill during the Wash! The Rinse is no problem! I've learned to live with it and it just see's little use during the cold months, unless I stand there and fill it in the Rinse and then re-start it in the Wash. A quirky timer, I suppose.
I also have an end-of-the-run solid-tub machine. The SS tub is very large and the agitator is over-sized to match. It is a reversing-motor type. I don't use it much as due to Government interference, it doesn't allow enough time for the tub to completely fill in the Rinse and I have very high water pressure! I removed the flow restrictors and even tried a generic valve system to no avail. It probably helped save a few gallons of water and helped SQ with the ratings. It also pretty much made a decent overflow rinse impossible. If I were electronically gifted I would add an increment of fill time to the Rinse.
Oh well, water conservation and old machines are in opposite corners anyway. Water in my area is still pretty cheap, so I am able to use my old machines.
I hope you really enjoy yours!
Best wishes![this post was last edited: 8/18/2017-16:25]
great machines, definitely one of my all time favorites, actually I have three......the standard is not the biggest capacity, but your not filling an outter tub either....
rare is finding an ExLarge capacity machine, I have only come across one a long time ago.....
it does make you wonder when larger capacities came out, most didn't increase, as in this case, fill times, or even wash times for the extra clothing in there
rare is finding an ExLarge capacity machine, I have only come across one a long time ago.....
it does make you wonder when larger capacities came out, most didn't increase, as in this case, fill times, or even wash times for the extra clothing in there
vacerator
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notice the colors
in the 80's speed queen magazine add.
We got another late gift yesterday too, or an early Rashashana gift?
Shana Tova!
Peace to all and Tiamo.
in the 80's speed queen magazine add.
We got another late gift yesterday too, or an early Rashashana gift?
Shana Tova!
Peace to all and Tiamo.
