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bobbyd32l

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After Jason's video on the Oasis, Here is my video showing how the Oasis's twin the Cabrio turns over with proper loading and cycle. Don't mind the loud noise in the back ground its the furnace turning on and off.

Cycle: Towels & Sheets Modifiers: normal soil, cold wash(70f) cold rinse, high speed spin
Items: 6 full sized bath towels, 4 khaki type pants, a few pairs of under garments and socks, 2 full size bed sheets, 2 pillow cases, and I threw in an additional sock to show the turn over
Water level was determined by weight in the wash tub and stopped filling as soon as the tub started to float.
Detergent: Tide HE Powder

During the cycle, the machine recirculates the water and adds some hot water to keep the water temp at an optimum for stain removal.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=977346913539657855&hl=en
 
Very cool! There seems to be quite a bit more water in that machine that I've seen in videos of Jason's Oasis. I'm guessing it's part of the Sheets & Towels cycle?
 
Sheets and Towels uses alot more water and has more drama than the other cycles. You can use it for anything but it doesn't work too good with a small load.
 
What a coincidence!

I just posted my own Oasis video a couple of minutes ago! A smaller load than Bobby's, but still shows the rollover quite well.

BTW: How do you embed a video in these forums. I tried in my previous thread but it won't work! Thanks in advance.

 
The trick with the Cabrio/Oasis is to load the tub just like you would a unitmatic or any type of GM machine. Load it in sections almost balled up. This makes the spacing better to allow more water to pass through the clothes, virtually no tangling, and much greater rollover!

Chad what where you expecting?
 
Oh yeah... I hate what google did to the quality of that video... made it so grainy. Anyone know a better hosting site that will allow for a 340+mb file?
 
Not sure what i was expecting... I watched jasonls again and this seems alot better than his... May just be me...

This was on the sheets and towls???
 
The way I load my Oasis is just dump the basket in! I find everything still gets washed, and clean too. I load towels and sheets like there was an agitator in the middle. No problems with rollover or water circulation for me.
 
Yes the reverse rollover is mind blowing... when I first saw it in demonstration at our training, I thought that there was something trying to come up through the middle... others thought that is was like... not gonna go there ;-)

Chad this was on sheets & towels.

Jason, what do you use for a small load? I find that small loads just swish back and forth, unless its on bulky bedding where the wash plate senses weight for proper water level, or dark colors where a little more cold water is used...

Load sensing for Sheets & Towels is different from that in the other cycles where the machine showers the clothes, spins and weighs, where as in S&T's it starts pretty much as soon as the tub floats, and adds water throughout the cycle to ensure proper water levels.
 
I don't think that the wash plate "weighs" the load, but it does measure the resistance on the plate when it rotates, kinda like F&P SmartDrive. Sheets and Towels doesn't start when the tub has lifted; is starts when the washer has determined that the resistance on the wash plate has lessened so that damage to articles won't occur once it starts washing. Thats why this washer sometimes adds water to the cycle after it starts; the motor sets fast agitation so that it can "feel" the load to make sure it is at the right water level, and resumes normal speed after it does a final adjustment and check. Have you ever noticed that the rinse level for Sheets/Towels is lower than the wash level?
 
The Cabrio is programmed a tad bit differently then the Oasis. Resistance was the word that I was looking for instead of weighing. LOL The water level in the Cabrio on rinse is the alot lower then that of the washing, but it only rinses for 2 minutes drains and slowly, slowly spins and sprays for about 20 seconds... But say on bulky bedding, the rinse is the same level and twice as long as sheets and towels...

And when the tubs floats in the Cabrio on S&T's, it starts almost immediately, runs for about 10 seconds, stops and adds more water if it thinks it needs it.
 
I liked the quality of videos at a site called vimeo.com, but it wouldn't let me post a video longer than about 2 mintues. BUT, they had great advice on how to format one's video for higher quality. They suggest not using any of Google's preset compression modes.

Go to vimeo.com/guide:upload and there should be a guide to follow. I printed out the one for Macs and it is idiot-proof. I use iMovie and an iMac, but I'm sure they have info for PCs, too. I format it the way they suggest for high quality, then I post the video at YouTube.
 
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7 pairs of jeans on "Bulky Items" what I don't like about most of the other cycles is that the motor slows down agitation after a minute or so and rollover almost stops... This is why I like S&T's so much
 
Comparisons

I notice the Cabrio is quieter than the Oasis. It reminds me of the sound of my original Maytag with helical drive. Both Oasis I have heard on the Yotube make a whine sound and the wash plate clacks at the end of it's travel. Are they designed differently? Why do they sound different. Go listen to Jason's posts. It sounds the same as Jason's.
Kelly
 
Now it works!

When I saw th video of the Oasis I though that system won't ever work...too low water leve and not effectively roll-over...

Looking now at the Cabrio I can say it "may" work, I see a right amount of water (obviously not so hihg like in a traditional TL!), and a very good roll-over action, it seems really the landry tumble like in a FL...Oh dears! A FL is anyway another question!

GOODBYE
Diomede
 
Beyond the Cabrio

If you click next video after viewing Bobby's excellent Cabrio presentation, you will see some stock footage of a washer with a bottom impeller spinning both with and without textiles of some sort. After that is a Staber video with the end panel of the tank replaced with Lucite or something to show how turbulance is created when the tub tumbles. Maybe everyone has already seen these, but I thought they were interesting and wonder what kind of a machine is shown with the blue & white impeller in the first 3 videos.
 
Eeeeesh... Sorry, guys, I still don't like it. The speed and the sheer force of the wash plate on the clothes! It can't be gentle.

Does anyone know the physics of this reverse rollover? What is so different here from an agitator F&P washer that causes this action? Why would rollover be "normal" in the agitator version of this washer while the wash plate rollover is reversed?
 
My theory is this: You know how the agitator has 3 triangle-shaped baffles raised off of the agitator? You know, the raised surfaces on the sides of the holed skirt? I think that as the wash plate rotates, the edge "scoops" and "pulls" the clothes into the center of the wash plate. Since all of the clothes are coming in the centre at once, and because of the slope of the skirt, the clothes are forced up though the centre and back down again where the cycle begins again.
 
They have exactly the same motors, and the same wash speeds; the difference in sound is the cameras, and the environment where it was filmed.
 
The machines sound exactly the same, I think thats its because there where clothes in front of the machine blocking the sound from the bottom, when I lean in to get a shot of the control panel you can hear it a lot louder.

I don't think at all that there is any more wear then in a traditional washer with a center post agitator. The plate doesn't have large fins to rub the clothes, just ridges that force the clothes upward.

I posted a embedded video of the Cabrio washing 7 pairs of jeans on "Heavy Duty" but that didn't work so here is the link. You can see that only the sheets and towels cycle uses the most water, and that after a few seconds the wash plate goes to a slower speed, unlike in sheets and towels where the speed stays the same, but the rotation shortens from 360degree's to about 200degrees.

 
did one of you guys upload this?

i forgot how i came across this (video) but i always thought an agitator is what made the clothes rollover. I guess i was wrong, im really learning some stuff here, um if i uploaded this link right we see how an agitator really doesnt matter even if the machine is overloaded. I thought the cabrio was crap but from watching it looks pretty good i was curious to see it wash i saw some videos on youtube (my favorite site for everything) i was surprised to see how much people uploaded washers thats how i found some and saw the other cabrio or "oasis" you guys say its the same. it looks it. anyways hope i uploaded this link right what kind of washer is it in the video? It kinda looks like the ge my grandmother and ex-girlfriend had is it?

http://<object width=
 
sorry heres the link again guys i apologize

from vintage search note; i didnt record this someone else did but, i thought it might be one of youguys here ha! so enjoy ;)

 
Thats mine, its posted a few posts up in this post. Its a Whirlpool Cabrio HE machine, same machine as the Kenmore Oasis
 
here is the link i been trying to put disregard the other 2 my god im wasting space this discusion! lol sorry ok so here it is is this washer a ge or something else it looks like one my grandmother and exgirlfrined had with that filter.

sorry mr cabrio ;( for uploading your link im a little off today sorry really tired.

 

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