Maytag A712 & DE 712
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Congrats on a lovely pair Gary
Hey Gary,
Glad you got these machines! They look in mint condition!!
You really can't do wrong with these machines: I have the matching A512 washer and dryer pair. Pity we never had the TOL versions here!
Cheers
Leon
Hey Gary,
Glad you got these machines! They look in mint condition!!
You really can't do wrong with these machines: I have the matching A512 washer and dryer pair. Pity we never had the TOL versions here!
Cheers
Leon
Hey Gary - this set is in AMAZING shape! So glad you saved them, the photos were just a blast. Glad to hear they had a home in Iowa at one time 
I also had no idea the bell was still being used on the 12 series machines - way cool.
Ben
I also had no idea the bell was still being used on the 12 series machines - way cool.Ben
Ben
Glad you enjoyed the pics. Was a fun day to bring these machines back to life.
Yay for 4 speed selections.....TOL!
Can anyone tell me the approximate date of manufacture?
The back label states 'Series 04'
Glad you enjoyed the pics. Was a fun day to bring these machines back to life.
Yay for 4 speed selections.....TOL!
Can anyone tell me the approximate date of manufacture?
The back label states 'Series 04'
These machines have found their place
In the laundry room with their older cousins
Maytag A108 washer and DE309 dryer
In the laundry room with their older cousins
Maytag A108 washer and DE309 dryer
And some more cousins
Tag Hags
Tag Hags
The Bristol Maytag Laundramat!!
Oooh, they look wonderful! These machines were built like tanks, I always thought the dryers were a little over-built.
Was the lens missing for the drum lamp on the dryer? It should be there as the machine will draw air through this and throw off the balance of the universe and probably slow down drying. I would think you might be able to find this part - #3-12892 (new # would be 3012892).
From the Maytag service manual on the DE712 time dry control:
Time Dry Operation - D712
With timer set for Time Dry, contact 3 and 4 in timer (BU to WH/RD) are closed and bypass the capacitor charging circuit. Since capacitor cannot charge, the solenoid cannot energize to shut dryer off. When the selected time has run down, contact 4 opens and contact 5 closes (BU to GY). This bypasses both high value resistors on the control board (13M & 33M) to set up a "fast charge" circuit through 3 meg-ohm repeat chime resistor. The capacitor will charge in about 1 to 1 1/2 minutes and energize the shut-off solenoid. Cool-down will follow if heat was selected for the Time Dry cycle.
Note: If the load is still "wet" at this point the sensor will prevent the charge from building on the the capacitor until the load is down to at least Damp Dry.
Was the lens missing for the drum lamp on the dryer? It should be there as the machine will draw air through this and throw off the balance of the universe and probably slow down drying. I would think you might be able to find this part - #3-12892 (new # would be 3012892).
From the Maytag service manual on the DE712 time dry control:
Time Dry Operation - D712
With timer set for Time Dry, contact 3 and 4 in timer (BU to WH/RD) are closed and bypass the capacitor charging circuit. Since capacitor cannot charge, the solenoid cannot energize to shut dryer off. When the selected time has run down, contact 4 opens and contact 5 closes (BU to GY). This bypasses both high value resistors on the control board (13M & 33M) to set up a "fast charge" circuit through 3 meg-ohm repeat chime resistor. The capacitor will charge in about 1 to 1 1/2 minutes and energize the shut-off solenoid. Cool-down will follow if heat was selected for the Time Dry cycle.
Note: If the load is still "wet" at this point the sensor will prevent the charge from building on the the capacitor until the load is down to at least Damp Dry.
70series
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Congratulations on getting your new set. They look like they just came from the factory.
Have a good one,
James
Have a good one,
James
But then again WHY mess with a classic?
Fascinating, thank you Gansky for the technicals.
~Note: If the load is still "wet" at this point the sensor will prevent the charge from building on the the capacitor until the load is down to at least Damp Dry.
Fascinating, thank you Gansky for the technicals.
Or I could put a switch in effectively bypassing the appropriate sensor (to ground/earth) and fool the damn thing into shutting off!
(Hello Doctor? Hi, yes I 've been noticing excessive and continuous dishcharge......)
Fascinating, thank you Gansky for the technicals.
~Note: If the load is still "wet" at this point the sensor will prevent the charge from building on the the capacitor until the load is down to at least Damp Dry.
Fascinating, thank you Gansky for the technicals.
Or I could put a switch in effectively bypassing the appropriate sensor (to ground/earth) and fool the damn thing into shutting off!
(Hello Doctor? Hi, yes I 've been noticing excessive and continuous dishcharge......)
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WOW!
Those are beauties Gary, congrats on them!
Those are beauties Gary, congrats on them!
Oopsie~!
Toggle realized you would need a switch to prevent it from grouinding to fool it into shutting off.
Toggle realized you would need a switch to prevent it from grouinding to fool it into shutting off.
Whirlpool killing Kitchenaid washer engineering
As far as I can recall, Kitchenaid didn't have any washers before Whirlpool bought them. My impression was that KA washers were TOL Whirpool, more or less incorporating with a year or so delay the little extras that Kenmore added to their Whirlpool sourced washers/dryers. The Kitchenaid Superba seemed to be equivalent to a Lady Kenmore in features.
The dishwashers of course are another matter. So far they haven't gutted the stand mixers, but give them time ;-(.
I do regret letting a beautiful digital push button all-black matching Kitchenaid washer/dryer set slip a couple of years ago. It really looked nice (posted the CL photos here, as I recall). Don't know if Kenmore ever had anything equivalent to that set.
As far as I can recall, Kitchenaid didn't have any washers before Whirlpool bought them. My impression was that KA washers were TOL Whirpool, more or less incorporating with a year or so delay the little extras that Kenmore added to their Whirlpool sourced washers/dryers. The Kitchenaid Superba seemed to be equivalent to a Lady Kenmore in features.
The dishwashers of course are another matter. So far they haven't gutted the stand mixers, but give them time ;-(.
I do regret letting a beautiful digital push button all-black matching Kitchenaid washer/dryer set slip a couple of years ago. It really looked nice (posted the CL photos here, as I recall). Don't know if Kenmore ever had anything equivalent to that set.
I guess I shouldn't be suprised to see how similar things look behind the panels on these machines compared to their 10-15 year older counterparts. Amazed to see the end of cycle bell still being used though.
What beautiful and clean machines these are! I swear if I had a set-up for an extra laundry pair, I would likely own a vintage Maytag W/D. There are times when you need to do some kick-ass laundering that requires a workhorse like Maytag was once famous for. My Duet washer needs to be treated with kid gloves and it would be refreshing to be able to run a tough load through a machine that was capable of taking anything you could throw at it, quietly and efficiently handling it all with the ease and simplicity that makes Maytags so attractive.
Congratulations on a great score!
Ralph
What beautiful and clean machines these are! I swear if I had a set-up for an extra laundry pair, I would likely own a vintage Maytag W/D. There are times when you need to do some kick-ass laundering that requires a workhorse like Maytag was once famous for. My Duet washer needs to be treated with kid gloves and it would be refreshing to be able to run a tough load through a machine that was capable of taking anything you could throw at it, quietly and efficiently handling it all with the ease and simplicity that makes Maytags so attractive.
Congratulations on a great score!
Ralph
Control switch
Seeing that control switch on that dryer brings back memories. That thing can be a problem. I had a TOL DE810, maybe? Its been too many years to remember for sure but I bought it in 1984. It was totally electronic. I don't even think it had any selections for timed drying. Anyways, after a few years it would run okay, but quit heating somewhere along the line after you started a load. If you would re-start the load, it would heat fine for awhile, then quit again. So that lead me to the control switch. If I held the push to start button down, it would heat fine. When you push to start it moves a bakelite strip sideways inside of this control, causing some contact points to close and others to open. Over time, this bakelite wears down somehow, and just the small vibration of the dryer running causes this strip to move, allowing the points for the heating element to become open, and you loose heat. The only way to fix this that I know of, was to replace the control switch with a new one. They would last several years, but eventually, I had to replace it again. Other than that, I had no problems, but that switch can cause you some problems. Just an FYI that might help someone with the same problem, figure out how to fix it quicker.
Seeing that control switch on that dryer brings back memories. That thing can be a problem. I had a TOL DE810, maybe? Its been too many years to remember for sure but I bought it in 1984. It was totally electronic. I don't even think it had any selections for timed drying. Anyways, after a few years it would run okay, but quit heating somewhere along the line after you started a load. If you would re-start the load, it would heat fine for awhile, then quit again. So that lead me to the control switch. If I held the push to start button down, it would heat fine. When you push to start it moves a bakelite strip sideways inside of this control, causing some contact points to close and others to open. Over time, this bakelite wears down somehow, and just the small vibration of the dryer running causes this strip to move, allowing the points for the heating element to become open, and you loose heat. The only way to fix this that I know of, was to replace the control switch with a new one. They would last several years, but eventually, I had to replace it again. Other than that, I had no problems, but that switch can cause you some problems. Just an FYI that might help someone with the same problem, figure out how to fix it quicker.
Great Machines
They are great condition and a nice addition to your collection!
They are great condition and a nice addition to your collection!
Thanks for the compliments
I am seriously considering making this set my 'daily drivers'.
I am seriously considering making this set my 'daily drivers'.
Oh, those are the same Maytag Neptunes with mechanical controls you posted about in another thread. You should now find one of those Top-Loading Maytag Neptune washers with the 2 discs inside that counter-rotate. And of course its matching dryer.
Is that what they were called?
Top-Loading Maytag Neptune washers with the 2 discs inside that counter-rotate?
Or was there another name to them besides 'Neptune'????
Top-Loading Maytag Neptune washers with the 2 discs inside that counter-rotate?
Or was there another name to them besides 'Neptune'????
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