Would like to see a picture of the shred ring with the carbide cutters!!Now-Maybe that one would shred those nails!
Maytag FB20 Disposer
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Batch feeder disposers are good for homes with kids-safety-The unit has to be loaded,water turned on and disposer lid put in place and twisted for the machine to start.And if you are shredding bones-the locking lid keeps them from be thrown out into your face.
Thanks for the explanations on the advantages of batch feed disposers. I think the lack of the rubber splash guard alone is enough of a selling point. At least on our FC-5, the splash guard could be removed and cleaned. Not so on a lot of disposers out there.
I should have clarified that the instructions for holding water in the sink bowl were for the Maytag. With the ISE, the starter/sealer mechanism was stainless and had a twist top with 3 positions for drain/on/seal. I had always liked batch feed disposers because the earliest ones I encountered were in the homes of older friends and they were batch feed models. In the house in Greenbelt there was no disposer and running a wire to just the disposer and not up into the wall was easier anyway.
The Maytag disposer was almost hand assembled and John said that it was the best product that the company made.
KitchenAid disposers were really neat with the "Magic Magnet Start" in the seal/cover and the cast iron grind chamber.
The Maytag disposer was almost hand assembled and John said that it was the best product that the company made.
KitchenAid disposers were really neat with the "Magic Magnet Start" in the seal/cover and the cast iron grind chamber.
beekeyknee
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Pic of the inside of the grinding chamber.
beekeyknee
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Shredder ring. Kinda hard to see.
Damn Brian.. That is a mess bad..You should just throw that away because you will never find
the parts to it..
I am not being a ass but I have been tinkering with disposers all my life or anything that is a machine..
That is a 1973 Model or even older than that..
If you want to keep it you will have to replace the shredder ring there about 90 bucks so,the Motor Cap is shot probably,and it could use some Auto-transmisson fluid to lubricate and protect..
I would have it sand-blasted because that thing was ran all the time it seems which is not good for Maytag's and I.S.E. disposers..
They don't have any type of cooling fans inside there..There not a a commercial unit to be ran like that..
Old Waste Kings all have fans to cool them down and it makes a big difference..
I have a repair manual that shows you how to take it apart and fix things with out breaking that boot seal if it's not already broke..
I can't get over how worn out that thing is and is still working which is a trip...
Good luck let me know if you need some help...
the parts to it..
I am not being a ass but I have been tinkering with disposers all my life or anything that is a machine..
That is a 1973 Model or even older than that..
If you want to keep it you will have to replace the shredder ring there about 90 bucks so,the Motor Cap is shot probably,and it could use some Auto-transmisson fluid to lubricate and protect..
I would have it sand-blasted because that thing was ran all the time it seems which is not good for Maytag's and I.S.E. disposers..
They don't have any type of cooling fans inside there..There not a a commercial unit to be ran like that..
Old Waste Kings all have fans to cool them down and it makes a big difference..
I have a repair manual that shows you how to take it apart and fix things with out breaking that boot seal if it's not already broke..
I can't get over how worn out that thing is and is still working which is a trip...
Good luck let me know if you need some help...
Looks like that disposer has had a "soft" diet-Run some bones thru it to help keep both shredders clean.As Vosboy says-this one needs a rebuild-replace the shredders and lube the bearings.If there is a start cap-replace as well.If you do these things you will have a BETTER disposer than what you can buy new.
So after this thread has started, my disposal is making noises like it is on its way out. Note to self, do not read these threads within a 6 foot radius of said units. It is vibrating and emitting strange noises. Its an Insinkerator. It is 4 or 5 years old. Not the best when installed. So what it is a "good" replacement that I may get 10 years out of?
Jon
Jon
Maytag and other Disposers
Hi Brain, your FB-20 may need a new shredder ring, it is hard to tell from the pictures. This disposer was not run much with any hard waste in a long time if ever from the looks of it.
Best thing to do is install it and start using it, let it clean itself up. If you can find a new shredder ring and want a project you can tear into it. The water seal would be the most important item to find and replace if you want to tear it apart. Replacing capacitors that have not and will likely never fail is mostly a wasted effort. If in the most unlikely even the capacitor does fail it can be replaced easily in the future without disturbing any water seals.
Hi Wes, I have no idea how you can tell this disposer has been run continuously by looking at the grinding chamber, LOL.
NO HOME DISPOSER will run more than 10-15 minutes before going out on the motors thermal overload.
NO HOME DISPOSER has a cooling fan including the great Wastekings, a disposer is considered intermittent duty appliance, they are one of the only home appliances that are not designed to run continuously.
John L
Hi Brain, your FB-20 may need a new shredder ring, it is hard to tell from the pictures. This disposer was not run much with any hard waste in a long time if ever from the looks of it.
Best thing to do is install it and start using it, let it clean itself up. If you can find a new shredder ring and want a project you can tear into it. The water seal would be the most important item to find and replace if you want to tear it apart. Replacing capacitors that have not and will likely never fail is mostly a wasted effort. If in the most unlikely even the capacitor does fail it can be replaced easily in the future without disturbing any water seals.
Hi Wes, I have no idea how you can tell this disposer has been run continuously by looking at the grinding chamber, LOL.
NO HOME DISPOSER will run more than 10-15 minutes before going out on the motors thermal overload.
NO HOME DISPOSER has a cooling fan including the great Wastekings, a disposer is considered intermittent duty appliance, they are one of the only home appliances that are not designed to run continuously.
John L
I agree with John. If it works and you want to use it, install it. I think the innards will clean up over time. I'd wager that your average chunk of food waste would not want to go up against a Maytag even if its shredder looked like yours. If your house pre-dates food waste disposers, clogged pipes would be a concern if running bones through. That's my situation here, so I rarely use the 1990 Kenmore that serves as the only outlet in my large single sink.
Ice cubes would be an alternative to bones for reconditioning the shredder ring. I'd throw a load of them in there without running any water. I once ran water with a whole bunch of ice cubes in our Maytag and between the crushing and the melting, they formed a nice uniform protective ring that obscured the shredder and the whole mechanism began to spin as if the disposer was empty, eliminating any cleaning or sharpening effect on the shredder.
Ice cubes would be an alternative to bones for reconditioning the shredder ring. I'd throw a load of them in there without running any water. I once ran water with a whole bunch of ice cubes in our Maytag and between the crushing and the melting, they formed a nice uniform protective ring that obscured the shredder and the whole mechanism began to spin as if the disposer was empty, eliminating any cleaning or sharpening effect on the shredder.
I can very easy tell that disposer was ran a lot by how worn the shredder ring is..
Maytag disposers never used reversing motors they all turn clockwise if you look closely you can see the how one side is worn down bad
compared to the others...
That reminds me Wastekings did have cooling fans cast into the rotors.I know I have took enough apart I know not much of a cooling fan but better
than none like on all I.S.E. machines...
Maytag used G.E. motors in them and had some problems with the starting caps..I have had to replace two of them in two machines that were
very old..The disposer will start with a bad cap but it draws a ton of current and can fry the start windings..
If the cap is bulging that means its bad..Don't ever touch a cap unless you discharge it by grounding out the terminals with a screw driver..
Capacitors can hold a charge for a very long time and have killed people.. So be careful..
Maytag disposers never used reversing motors they all turn clockwise if you look closely you can see the how one side is worn down bad
compared to the others...
That reminds me Wastekings did have cooling fans cast into the rotors.I know I have took enough apart I know not much of a cooling fan but better
than none like on all I.S.E. machines...
Maytag used G.E. motors in them and had some problems with the starting caps..I have had to replace two of them in two machines that were
very old..The disposer will start with a bad cap but it draws a ton of current and can fry the start windings..
If the cap is bulging that means its bad..Don't ever touch a cap unless you discharge it by grounding out the terminals with a screw driver..
Capacitors can hold a charge for a very long time and have killed people.. So be careful..
The usual electrolytic motor start cap is not a real threat.They have high internal leakage so they won't hold a charge.Its the metal cased Rectangular or oval can oil-film,paper caps that can be a threat.Usually not found on most consumer product motors.Only on a few as motor run caps(HVAC compressors-air compressors-large) or Perm split phase caps-like as in fan and blower motors.By NEC rules these have to have a bleeder resister-either internal or external.Short these with a well insulated handle screwdriver before handling!Yes,I remember taking apart a dead WK disposer-it did indeed,have the fan blades cast on the rotor shorting rings.Disposer motors dispense with the rotor mounted seperate fan as other continuous duty motors have.
Capacitors scare the hell out of me..When I was in college they used to throw them at us and not thinking we would catch them and get the hell
shocked out of us..Well some new student did it with a 600 Volt cap when we used 50 volt caps but this guy caught it and it killed him technically..He caught it against his chest
and stopped his heart.He would have died but the year before they installed those Phillps defibrillators in all the labs that mess with things that kill if messed
with..
He killed over so quick.It was like he had a seizure and fell and that was it..Those defibs do work though very well ..
shocked out of us..Well some new student did it with a 600 Volt cap when we used 50 volt caps but this guy caught it and it killed him technically..He caught it against his chest
and stopped his heart.He would have died but the year before they installed those Phillps defibrillators in all the labs that mess with things that kill if messed
with..
He killed over so quick.It was like he had a seizure and fell and that was it..Those defibs do work though very well ..
Caps scare me too,the ones we have in our transmitters-values like 10Uf@20Kv DC.These will ABSOLUTELY kill you.There are bleeder circuits on them when in the transmtter----BUT NEVER-BUT NEVER TRUST A BLEEDER-Always discharge with the long handle grounding hook-then leave the hook on the cap so it can't rebuild the charge.These caps can do that-makes them more scary!!!These oil-paper-film caps have almost NO internal leakage so they will store and even rebuild a charge unless grounded or the terminals shorted together.The ones we have as spares have their terminals shorted.In one of our transmitters there is an oil cap bank that works at 30Kv.One time the charge in this literally blew up a trouble light head-GONE!!!One of the guys trying to do PM on that rig hung his light on one of those caps and it discharged-blowing up the light.Glad the light and NOT him!!!I have never had problems with electrolytic type caps--but oil filled ones I treat with the utmost respect-like handling a loaded gun!In the years I have worked on transmitters-at the site I work at or others-the caps get my attention-GROUND THEIR terminals before working!!!And shut off all primary power,too!
beekeyknee
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Well, I got that disposer out of the shed today, hooked it up to electricity, put the garden hose in it and turned it on. It took off and didn't leak. I was doing it outside on the patio, hooked up to a GFI to be on the safe side. I started looking around for something to shred. I gathered up some acorns and sticks from last fall, put them in, turned on the water, put a magnet on the switch, put a towel over the opening and plugged it in. It ground all that stuff up in an instant. Then I remembered you all talking about nails. I didn't want to do that, but gathered up a half to 3/4's of a cup of some pea sized river gravel and did the same thing. It turned it into sand. And cleaned up the chamber a little too.
Now since I know it works, I'm wondering if I should look for a new shredder ring? What if I tear the gasket between the two halves? Ideas?
Unfortunately, I won't be able to use it in this house, because the pipe that comes out of the wall is too high. But I can save it for the next place I live.
Now since I know it works, I'm wondering if I should look for a new shredder ring? What if I tear the gasket between the two halves? Ideas?
Unfortunately, I won't be able to use it in this house, because the pipe that comes out of the wall is too high. But I can save it for the next place I live.
They're fast, aren't they?
I miss the instantaneous results from our Maytag. I'm repeating myself, but I should have bought that FC5 I saw at Urban Ore.
Brian, if your Maytag turned gravel into sand, I don't think you need to replace the ring regardless of how funky it looks. Find a safe place to store that beauty until you move somewhere else.
I miss the instantaneous results from our Maytag. I'm repeating myself, but I should have bought that FC5 I saw at Urban Ore.
Brian, if your Maytag turned gravel into sand, I don't think you need to replace the ring regardless of how funky it looks. Find a safe place to store that beauty until you move somewhere else.
vacerator
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The ISE
Badger 5's are not very good. Upgrade to at least the stainless steel grind chamber, if not the 3/4 horsepower reversing model.
I've had my Kenmore by ISE stainless reversing disposer 20 years now. Still quiet.
I re installed it when I remodeled in 2011.
Note; I don't grind potato peels, green onions, or any stringy veggies. Oh, it can grind them for sure, but they tend to block up the trap in my basement where the laundry sink is below the kitchen.
Once I was at work and my partner cleaned the refrigerator out, and ground up all the old scallions, etc. He called a plumber before I got home because we were leaving on vacation that afternoon.
I was P.O'd because I could have taken the trap apart myself and cleaned it out in 20 minutes, saving half of my days net pay.
Badger 5's are not very good. Upgrade to at least the stainless steel grind chamber, if not the 3/4 horsepower reversing model.
I've had my Kenmore by ISE stainless reversing disposer 20 years now. Still quiet.
I re installed it when I remodeled in 2011.
Note; I don't grind potato peels, green onions, or any stringy veggies. Oh, it can grind them for sure, but they tend to block up the trap in my basement where the laundry sink is below the kitchen.
Once I was at work and my partner cleaned the refrigerator out, and ground up all the old scallions, etc. He called a plumber before I got home because we were leaving on vacation that afternoon.
I was P.O'd because I could have taken the trap apart myself and cleaned it out in 20 minutes, saving half of my days net pay.
MT Disposers Etc
Yay Glad it works. If you chose to replace the shredder ring you can just put the disposer back together with a small bead of silicone sealant.
You can easily look at the SR and see if it is badly worn, since a MTD does not reverse you will see a big difference if it is very worn the teeth will be very smooth and worn down on one side. I would not grind gravel in ANY disposer I cared about, YES it is a good demonstration of its grinding ability, BUT it wears down the shredder ring very quickly.
For the last 20 years I have had both a MT FB-5 and a Kitchen Aid Magnet start Wam-Jam disposers in the two main sink areas of my kitchen. Both get about the same amount of use and both are great disposers overall, BUT the KA is far faster than the MT in grinding speed mainly due to its fixed impellers, the food waste has NO CHOICE but to get ground-up, even bones, citrus rinds are gone in seconds. The old ISEs also had fixed impellers and worked much better as well, but in the hands of consumers they are too easy to jam with foreign objects, so old ISE and the old KADs with fixed impellers for home use are gone.
Note all commercial disposers use fixed impellers to this day, they are not only faster but a lot more durable.
John L.
Yay Glad it works. If you chose to replace the shredder ring you can just put the disposer back together with a small bead of silicone sealant.
You can easily look at the SR and see if it is badly worn, since a MTD does not reverse you will see a big difference if it is very worn the teeth will be very smooth and worn down on one side. I would not grind gravel in ANY disposer I cared about, YES it is a good demonstration of its grinding ability, BUT it wears down the shredder ring very quickly.
For the last 20 years I have had both a MT FB-5 and a Kitchen Aid Magnet start Wam-Jam disposers in the two main sink areas of my kitchen. Both get about the same amount of use and both are great disposers overall, BUT the KA is far faster than the MT in grinding speed mainly due to its fixed impellers, the food waste has NO CHOICE but to get ground-up, even bones, citrus rinds are gone in seconds. The old ISEs also had fixed impellers and worked much better as well, but in the hands of consumers they are too easy to jam with foreign objects, so old ISE and the old KADs with fixed impellers for home use are gone.
Note all commercial disposers use fixed impellers to this day, they are not only faster but a lot more durable.
John L.
the commercial disposers have replaceable fixed hammer faces so they can be replaced if worn.Remember commercial machines often have to shred ANYTHING put in them by careless dish scrappers.And they have a moveable rotating shredder adjustment so the rotating shedder-motor can be moved up as the shredders wear.Motors can be up to 15 Hp.I too have used the Maytag and KA disposers-both work well-esp if you can get the KA with the STEEL rotating shredder as opposed to newer ones made of aluminum or zinc.Love the Maytag I got from Volsboy a while back.It replaced a new ISE adn haven't gone back to ISE.The ISE machine was HOPELESSLY SLOW and hogged water! The Maytag gobbles the waste up-and yes,agree don't try to shred gravel or glass in ANY disposer if you want it to last.Commercial ones with replaceable hammers adn shredder you may get buy with it.Some small animal farmers use old disposers to grind feed for their animals.Read that in a farm magazine I use to get.
