Well...this is a version Pre- concentrated, Pre-actlift so Pre Blue-beads...the classic Tide powder (that IMO was better), not the today's stuff...an old stock..so since he asked where I found mine, and the shop I bought mine is way too far from where he lives for him to get some (North Carolina for istance) here surfing ebay I found this...so I thought he was interested...maybe others also...