Miele W3033 Washer / T8003 Dryer

[vacfanatic]

Brushless Motor

Apparently, in spite of what the Miele brochure indicates on the W 3033, 3035 models, they must be brushless according to this data in the service manual. The service manual has no reference to carbon brushes, either. Also, the motor sounds somewhat "dc brushless" when it rotates, not quite like my LG's, but you can tell it's a different kind of motor than your average brushed motor. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong).

 

[vacfanatic]

Foam Sensing

Quite intelligent, if you ask me! Of course it is, for $2000... ;-)

 

[favorit]

shocked !

Andrew, have never seen such a thing !

I guess Miele put such lock to avoid being sued by silly sales/repair people who don't know basics of safety rules.

After all, didn't a old lady sue Starbucks (and she DID win) cause she had her mouth scalded while drinking their coffee ??

 

[vacfanatic]

Miele W3033 Water Intake Diagram

Miele W3033 Water Intake Diagram

 

[vacfanatic]

Miele W3033 Water Drain Diagram

Miele W3033 Water Drain Diagram

 

[favorit]

mine has also a different "foam while heating" rou

the heater keeps going on till target temp, but the cadence gets different (longer pauses between reverse tumbles and slower tumbling speed) until foam is reduced, then the cadence goes back to normal.

Euro mieler owners, what about your machines ?

 

[bernina]

the Rosetta Stone!

Wow, you've got the 3033 Service Manual?

THANK YOU for sharing the diagrams and technical info.

ps Loved your "Welcome Home" sign! (Post# 407239-1/18/2010-19:38)

*Please* tell us you had that mounted on Sintra and stuck out on your front lawn.

 

[nmassman44]

I gotta ask...where did you get the manual??? Miele info is hard to get as far as a service manual. I would love to get my hands on one for my w4800 and my t9800 dryer.

 

[vacfanatic]

Service Manual

I got it from one of my buddies on www.fixitnow.com - they have a service repair manual forum you can ask for them if you need help fixing your appliance. Maybe give them a shout.

Andrew

 

[appnut]

Andrew, if you change the default settings of a program, will those same program change me "present" as the last time yo used the program or do you have to reset them all over again if you want to use the same modificaitons for that program vs. the default settings.

 

[vacfanatic]

Program Memory

Bob,

Yes it does store any settings you change after the program starts. I changed the cycle temperature on the Normal cycle to "No Heat", hit start, then immediately cancelled the program and shut off the washer. Turned it back on, selected Normal, and it remembers the "No Heat". If the power goes out during a cycle, when the power comes back, the washer powers on and resumes the cycle where it left off.

Andrew

 

[appnut]

Andrew THANKS!! Very impressive, particularly that the cycle picks back up where it left off after a power glitch or loss.

 

[bernina]

4840 and 3033 Normal cycle

hi, Andrew,

A lot of people seem to think that these new Mieles do not use the heater at all for the "normal" cycle. Could you clear this up for us? Does it or doesn't it?

Thanks!

 

[mysteryclock]

Forgot to ask...

...once you get the dryer in are you going to stack them, put them on pedestals or leave them as-is?

 

[vacfanatic]

Heater Use / Pedestals

The heater does work in normal mode, at least on mine. The only cycle that I questioned it operating was Delicates. With the very high water level, and cold water only fill, it was obviously not reaching '40' C. I emailed Miele and they advised that Delicates program is designed with no/heat and VERY low heat for the delicates. In spite of what the manual shows of 40C, it's actually a temp. Makes sense - we all know that US models cannot heat water as fast as european models due to the ~1000 watt heaters. I have confirmed in my other cycles that he machine does reach target temps though. (Unlike my LGs, which fail to reach target temperatures about 5 out of 10 washes). I've got an infrared thermometer to check door glass temp on the Miele.

I will probably order Pedestals for the Mieles, but that'll be after I finish the basement. I've still got to buy slate floor tile etc. Still have at least $1000 to go on the basement project!

Andrew

 

[gansky1]

Are you tired of it yet? I guess I could make room for it in the garage - wash rags in it or store a dishwasher on it. Hee hee.

Just beautiful, I love that fast spin!

 

[alr2903]

Wow, Very Nice, enjoy..alr2903

 

[bernina]

www.fixitnow.com

hi, Andrew,

Just wanted to say thanks very much for telling me about "fixitnow.com"

I asked, and they sent me a copy of the Miele 3033 102 page "Descriptive Technical Documentation" service manual.

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Can I ask about your installation/setup?

Was your washer set up by delivery techs, or did you do it yourself?

Have you had to move the machine by yourself, or did delivery people place it? I ask because it's so heavy. Am wondering if you can offer any tips about moving it.

Thanks again!

 

[vacfanatic]

Very Heavy

I think it weighs close to 240lbs - definately NOT something you can move on your own. I had to help the delivery driver carry it off the truck into the garage, and then I was able to scoot it inside to warm up by placing an old rug over the door threashold. I had to get my friend to help me carry it downstairs though. I've got the dryer on the way soon, should ship next week sometime. The Washer has recessed carry handles on the bottom at the front, and the overhang at the back. I opted to hold on to the feet in front while my assistant took hold of the back by the carry handles when we moved it downstairs. These have solid cast iron cradles that stabilize the drum, which is why it's so heavy.

 

[mysteryclock]

Good grief!

240lb for that tiny thing? My Titanic-sized Bosch Nexxt 500 is approximately ~220lb, and it is much larger than the small Miele's I've seen.

That's build quality!