My Blushing Ladies
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congratulations Dick!! I'm tickled pink for you. Can't wait to see the restoration progrss.
harvestgold
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Pink ladys
Dick Congrats wow what a find they are just beautiful, I can`t wait to see them hope you can get them running soon talk soon john
Dick Congrats wow what a find they are just beautiful, I can`t wait to see them hope you can get them running soon talk soon john
aldspinboy
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Congradulations! Dick on your find finally i get to say something to you,i told Robert that ive i did'nt run across this web site, i dont think i would have gotten thru cancer &kemo, and your collection i kept looking at when i was ill totally killed the pain kept one of your washers on the screen all the time as well as others many otheres and i will think them as i see these great group of peaple on the site. My aunt maggie had these units and she allowed me to WASH on my on. She had a lot of clothes i would wash all day, the tube lite looks good at night man the first vintage machine i washed in it was old then at that time around 1974 for me. I love Kenmo washers and your collection is great! i hope to visit and talk to u someday P.S. Id talked u up on modern. Thread#13720check it out, Qwestion was that model on modern was the last of the lighted control kenmores to your knowlege thanks. best Darren k I got thru with your enthusiasem for your machines & beauty of them!
veg-o-matic
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Wow, very cool set! I love that little insignia on the front.
veg
P.S. Anyone recognize that round-headed shadow in the first pic?
veg
P.S. Anyone recognize that round-headed shadow in the first pic?
Have you had any luck finding a new post for yours? I can't believe I broke it when I was there!!! 
You didn't break it silly!!! Yes Don has an extra '59 Kenmore up in his garage, I just need to find time to get up there and dismantle the machine for parts.
You didn't break it silly!!! Yes Don has an extra '59 Kenmore up in his garage, I just need to find time to get up there and dismantle the machine for parts.
Robert, before you dismantle the machine for parts, will you take lots of pics? Thank you.
laundryshark
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Audio of Two Classic Ladies
Would be neato to collect a good audio of at least two classic Lady K's in action.--Laundry Shark
Would be neato to collect a good audio of at least two classic Lady K's in action.--Laundry Shark
Darren-What a great post and yes I have to agree with you that this is one hell of a site. Thanks for your nice comments and I soon will find the time to update my profile and pictures to go with it as the present one is really out of date.
I'm not quite sure how to answer your question about the lighted control panels on Kenmores (which along with tub lights I go nuts over). I know my 68 and 2 early 70 Ks have full flourescent lights across the entire consoles. Any one of them at a time lights up the room. I know that Kenmores has some sort of light set ups on their consoles until the mid 80's maybe even later.
Tomorrow I have most of the day free and I'm attacking that wireless timer. Wish me luck. Then on Saturday I will be doing the transplant. ((--::
Laundry Shark-There will be a vid soon.
Veg-0-matic-I don't see any round headed shadow in the first pic. Now, if you should mean the second pix-that's my friend.
I'm not quite sure how to answer your question about the lighted control panels on Kenmores (which along with tub lights I go nuts over). I know my 68 and 2 early 70 Ks have full flourescent lights across the entire consoles. Any one of them at a time lights up the room. I know that Kenmores has some sort of light set ups on their consoles until the mid 80's maybe even later.
Tomorrow I have most of the day free and I'm attacking that wireless timer. Wish me luck. Then on Saturday I will be doing the transplant. ((--::
Laundry Shark-There will be a vid soon.
Veg-0-matic-I don't see any round headed shadow in the first pic. Now, if you should mean the second pix-that's my friend.
veg-o-matic
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Whoopsie!
Forgot how to count. I thought the head belonged to someone I know...
veg
Forgot how to count. I thought the head belonged to someone I know...
veg
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Hi Dick
Congrats on your BEAUTIFUL Lady Kenmore's! That set is on my dream list! Have fun with them!
Shane
Congrats on your BEAUTIFUL Lady Kenmore's! That set is on my dream list! Have fun with them!
Shane
mickeyd
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Dick, they're beautiful
but would you please identify that poor orphan in the corner. It looks like a Lady Kenmore Lid, but the drain control looks different, unless part of it is hidden or broken. PLEASE DO TELL !!!!
but would you please identify that poor orphan in the corner. It looks like a Lady Kenmore Lid, but the drain control looks different, unless part of it is hidden or broken. PLEASE DO TELL !!!!
I would like some advice
mickeyd-Yes it is a poor orphan-It's a 55 Visa_Matic and it runs fine but it leaks around the pump. Just haven't got to it and it will soon be heading out the door to make room for the 57 LK washer. There's just so many machines I can cram into a 12x12!
Well, today I was reminded that you are never too old to learn and that sometimes you have to slow down and take things at a slower pace. I've got to work on slowing down my level of excitement. I was all set to go out and rewire the timer on the 57. I had convinced myself that it would be a piece of cake and that I'd have it done in no time using the 56 as a general guide. Boy was I wrong. There are no markings at the terminals on the 56 AND the physical location of the terminals are different on both machines.
It wasn't until this afternoon in talking with a friend that the question of hot and neutral leads to various components was brought up and he asked where I got the "harness". I said what harness. I thought I'd just make new wires and "plug and go". ((--::
The wiring schematic was ripped off the back of the machine.
I've never had any experience with wiring or timers. Does any one out there have any thoughts on these two issues?
I've got everything else gathered together to make it go! But I'm stymied on the wiring.
mickeyd-Yes it is a poor orphan-It's a 55 Visa_Matic and it runs fine but it leaks around the pump. Just haven't got to it and it will soon be heading out the door to make room for the 57 LK washer. There's just so many machines I can cram into a 12x12!
Well, today I was reminded that you are never too old to learn and that sometimes you have to slow down and take things at a slower pace. I've got to work on slowing down my level of excitement. I was all set to go out and rewire the timer on the 57. I had convinced myself that it would be a piece of cake and that I'd have it done in no time using the 56 as a general guide. Boy was I wrong. There are no markings at the terminals on the 56 AND the physical location of the terminals are different on both machines.
It wasn't until this afternoon in talking with a friend that the question of hot and neutral leads to various components was brought up and he asked where I got the "harness". I said what harness. I thought I'd just make new wires and "plug and go". ((--::
The wiring schematic was ripped off the back of the machine.
I've never had any experience with wiring or timers. Does any one out there have any thoughts on these two issues?
I've got everything else gathered together to make it go! But I'm stymied on the wiring.
northwesty
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Hi Dick I just sent you an email, but thought I would post some little clues on wiring I can gleam from a manual I have. Does this make sense to folks in the club here who know about Kenmores and is there any other ideas as to what terminal hooks up to what component in the machine
I don't know if these stayed the same year after year or what.
Timer wires:
C to A5 on timer
Two terminals on the timer to which the timer motor leads are connected , these terminals will be either “M-10” and “c-10” or “a-2” and C
Wiring harness:
A5 on timer to M5 on hot water solenoid
Terminal B on the water temperature control switch to the terminal connector on the opposite end of the wire that is connected to terminal A5 on timer
On machines with two speed motor check for continuity between terminal M2L on the motor and terminal connector A2 and terminal M2H on the motor and terminal connector B2
A6 on the timer hooks up to M6 on the agitator control Solenoid, or between C6 on the solenoid and C on the timer
M81 for the extractor solenoid and A1 on the timer
B7 on the timer and M3 on the mixed water Solenoid
A4 on timer and M4 on the two way valve solenoid
I don't know if these stayed the same year after year or what.
Timer wires:
C to A5 on timer
Two terminals on the timer to which the timer motor leads are connected , these terminals will be either “M-10” and “c-10” or “a-2” and C
Wiring harness:
A5 on timer to M5 on hot water solenoid
Terminal B on the water temperature control switch to the terminal connector on the opposite end of the wire that is connected to terminal A5 on timer
On machines with two speed motor check for continuity between terminal M2L on the motor and terminal connector A2 and terminal M2H on the motor and terminal connector B2
A6 on the timer hooks up to M6 on the agitator control Solenoid, or between C6 on the solenoid and C on the timer
M81 for the extractor solenoid and A1 on the timer
B7 on the timer and M3 on the mixed water Solenoid
A4 on timer and M4 on the two way valve solenoid
Congratulations, Dick, on the beautiful Ladies. In one of the very rare magazine advertisements for Kenmore laundry appliances in the 50s, the hair dryer/room heater was a heavily promoted feature in an ad for this pair. I am glad that this accessory was still with your dryer. Will you be able to use your dryer on a 50 amp circuit to benefit from about 8000 watts of drying speed? Have you looked in the back of it yet to see if the third heating element is connected for operation?
One thing that John does to take the electrical stress off the timer contacts is to put a heat relay between the timer and the heaters. That way, when heat is called for, instead of the timer contacts completing the 220 volt circuit, the timer contacts only carry 120 volts (like in a gas dryer)to a solenoid which snaps shut to complete the 220 volt circuit. When the 220 volt circuit is carried by the timer contacts, they can be damaged over time and lose their their ability to respond to the cams in the timer. Another thing I like about the heat relay is that you can hear the closing and opening of the switch to let you know when the heat cycles on and off. I have not explained this very well, but my friend and neighbor John in Beltsville or any number of club members can explain this and show you how to do the wiring.
In the early 60s, there was a television show with the name The Roaring Twenties. It had a neat theme song set against a background of pictures and snippets of film from that time. At the very end of the song and in perfect synchronization with the music, a big car from the time zoomed up a ramp and jumped a line of cars. The best part was the very hard landing. It just had to have killed the suspension. Anyway, while that was my favorite part, my brother watched it for the actress Dorothy Provine who played the flapper character Pinky Pinkham. You will need to come up with similar color-inspired names for your pink ladies unless you chose someting euphoneous based on Kenmore like Karen Kenmore. That's my combo's name. Does anyone else give names to some of their appliances or do I need make an appointment to discuss adjusting medications?
I hope that you meet your timeline for their restoration and have lots of fun with them for a long time. Tom
One thing that John does to take the electrical stress off the timer contacts is to put a heat relay between the timer and the heaters. That way, when heat is called for, instead of the timer contacts completing the 220 volt circuit, the timer contacts only carry 120 volts (like in a gas dryer)to a solenoid which snaps shut to complete the 220 volt circuit. When the 220 volt circuit is carried by the timer contacts, they can be damaged over time and lose their their ability to respond to the cams in the timer. Another thing I like about the heat relay is that you can hear the closing and opening of the switch to let you know when the heat cycles on and off. I have not explained this very well, but my friend and neighbor John in Beltsville or any number of club members can explain this and show you how to do the wiring.
In the early 60s, there was a television show with the name The Roaring Twenties. It had a neat theme song set against a background of pictures and snippets of film from that time. At the very end of the song and in perfect synchronization with the music, a big car from the time zoomed up a ramp and jumped a line of cars. The best part was the very hard landing. It just had to have killed the suspension. Anyway, while that was my favorite part, my brother watched it for the actress Dorothy Provine who played the flapper character Pinky Pinkham. You will need to come up with similar color-inspired names for your pink ladies unless you chose someting euphoneous based on Kenmore like Karen Kenmore. That's my combo's name. Does anyone else give names to some of their appliances or do I need make an appointment to discuss adjusting medications?
I hope that you meet your timeline for their restoration and have lots of fun with them for a long time. Tom
Learning lesson on timer wiring
Brian-Thank you so much for your informative post. It's a start in the right direction but I've also got the issue of the wiring harness. Can I find an old one that will work or do I look for directions on putting one together from scratch. I don't understand about the neutral leads and if and how they all join into a central neutral lead. I've never had experience in this area. I certainly don't want to blow it or myself up!
Tom-Thanks for the info on the high wattage info on the dryer. Yes, in looking at the owners manual I did notice that the high temp wattage was rated at I believe 8960 watts. I didn't believe it. I only use the dryers on low heat or air for fluffing and lint removal so I appreciate your input. It's something I certainly will check on and want disconnected.
The hair dryer/room heater was a real bonus and has already been a topic of conversation among friends who have viewed the set. They think it's awesome and so do I.
Yes, I do remember the Roaring Twenties and I also have attached names to some of my vehicles and a few of my washers, not all of them. The 58 I call Dorothy after my aunt who had the new 58LK which I loved to wash in. I also named my 55 Chevy after her as her 55 gray and pink one was always the inspiration which finally drove me to buy one back in the 80s.
Today the "guts" are put in the 57LK and at that point I will have to stop until I find out what I'm doing with the timer wiring. I've already accepted the fact that there's no way I'll meet my Oct. 22nd deadline on having the machine washing 50ls! ((--::
Thanks again Tom for your input. Much appreciated. And Brian, I'll drop you a line soon.
Brian-Thank you so much for your informative post. It's a start in the right direction but I've also got the issue of the wiring harness. Can I find an old one that will work or do I look for directions on putting one together from scratch. I don't understand about the neutral leads and if and how they all join into a central neutral lead. I've never had experience in this area. I certainly don't want to blow it or myself up!
Tom-Thanks for the info on the high wattage info on the dryer. Yes, in looking at the owners manual I did notice that the high temp wattage was rated at I believe 8960 watts. I didn't believe it. I only use the dryers on low heat or air for fluffing and lint removal so I appreciate your input. It's something I certainly will check on and want disconnected.
The hair dryer/room heater was a real bonus and has already been a topic of conversation among friends who have viewed the set. They think it's awesome and so do I.
Yes, I do remember the Roaring Twenties and I also have attached names to some of my vehicles and a few of my washers, not all of them. The 58 I call Dorothy after my aunt who had the new 58LK which I loved to wash in. I also named my 55 Chevy after her as her 55 gray and pink one was always the inspiration which finally drove me to buy one back in the 80s.
Today the "guts" are put in the 57LK and at that point I will have to stop until I find out what I'm doing with the timer wiring. I've already accepted the fact that there's no way I'll meet my Oct. 22nd deadline on having the machine washing 50ls! ((--::
Thanks again Tom for your input. Much appreciated. And Brian, I'll drop you a line soon.
Dick, my parents bought a 58 Lady. It had the green porcelain cabinet. The color was on closeout because it was not as popular as pink & yellow. We were the first with a Wash 'n Wear cycle with the thirsty cool down.
On a standard 30 amp circuit with only a maximun timer setting of 60 minutes, Consumer Reports downrated a similar Kenmore dryer because it could not always dry a load in 60 minutes!!? If you ever have to disassemble the dryer, we can show you where we glued strips of felt from post 1966 WP drum seals against the bulkhead using Maytag high temperature adhesive to lessen the amount of heated air sneaking behind the drum and going out the exhaust without actually being pulled through the tumbling fabrics. This really increases the efficiency of the dryer and should give noticeably faster drying on the 30 amp wattage.
Short of having a genie or appliance genious come do the wiring for you, what would help? We have the same machine. Would some sort of pictures and labels of the wires be of any use? I could not do this because I do not have the camera, but I might be able to get Jason's help with photography and John's knowledge of the machine to help you. As little as these machines changed internally, I think that if you could get a hold of a Kenmore or WP wiring harness it would not be too hard to do beyond the timer since the wires were generally of specific lengths so that they hang down just about where they should connect. Tom
On a standard 30 amp circuit with only a maximun timer setting of 60 minutes, Consumer Reports downrated a similar Kenmore dryer because it could not always dry a load in 60 minutes!!? If you ever have to disassemble the dryer, we can show you where we glued strips of felt from post 1966 WP drum seals against the bulkhead using Maytag high temperature adhesive to lessen the amount of heated air sneaking behind the drum and going out the exhaust without actually being pulled through the tumbling fabrics. This really increases the efficiency of the dryer and should give noticeably faster drying on the 30 amp wattage.
Short of having a genie or appliance genious come do the wiring for you, what would help? We have the same machine. Would some sort of pictures and labels of the wires be of any use? I could not do this because I do not have the camera, but I might be able to get Jason's help with photography and John's knowledge of the machine to help you. As little as these machines changed internally, I think that if you could get a hold of a Kenmore or WP wiring harness it would not be too hard to do beyond the timer since the wires were generally of specific lengths so that they hang down just about where they should connect. Tom
northwesty
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Here is another chart
If you can make any sense of it
If you can make any sense of it
washertalk
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Beautiful Set Dick!
Good luck on getting them fully functional. It sounds like you have a good plan.
On occasion I have been able to restore a favored machine from parts from like 4 or 5 other machines or sources. It is like a mystery or quest and what a feeling of satisfaction when the machine is done and complete.
The hair dryer attachment is certainly unique. I would not have believed that manufacturers had actually tried to sell that attachment without seeing it.
Good luck on getting them fully functional. It sounds like you have a good plan.
On occasion I have been able to restore a favored machine from parts from like 4 or 5 other machines or sources. It is like a mystery or quest and what a feeling of satisfaction when the machine is done and complete.
The hair dryer attachment is certainly unique. I would not have believed that manufacturers had actually tried to sell that attachment without seeing it.
