New GE 3.9 cu ft. Agitator Washer

[jerrod6]

Under options it says to use power rinse when you are going to use fabric softener.  I guess this means that this is the only time you will get a deep rinse.  I have 1 load where Fs is not used...the rest of them get a bit of Fs.   Then there is the option for a 2nd rinse?  So is this 2nd rinse a 2nd spray rinse or what?

 

Perfect temp wash?  What is this?   I know what temperatures I want to use. Whose perfect temp are they using and what are they?.

 

 

 

[qualin]

Jerrod, here was my experience...

Perfect Temp (At least on my 2004 vintage machines) meant that the machine would adjust the overall water temperature in the tub during the fill stage by cycling the hot or cold water solenoids on and off for a short period of time to make sure that the water temperature was proper. It didn't use a bi-metal strip to adjust temperature. I'm assuming there was a thermometer somewhere inside of the outer tub which sensed the water temperature.

In my experience, when I selected a warm wash, it would occasionally cycle the cold water solenoid on and off, switching between a warm water fill and a hot water fill. However, if the lid was open, it wouldn't do this. During a cold water wash, it would cycle the hot water solenoid on and off, switching from a cold fill to a warm fill.

I don't know the EXACT temperatures the machine uses, but my guess is about 140 F for hot, about 90 F for warm and about 45 F for cold.

 

[estesguy]

Perfect temp...

Perfect temp is exactly as he said above. My 2005 all electronic has it shown on the front as Hot=100, Warm = 70, and cold is tap water. These two 3.9 machines differ a lot. The lesser priced machine appears to be a pre-hydrowave machine with a 2 speed motor, steel transmission, mechanical timer,and is non-energy star compliant, which means..this tub will fill all the way to the top on both wash and rinse cycles. The more expensive one is the electronic reverse controlled hydrowave with electronic cycle selections, and load sense washing. I'm not sure, but the fact that it is energy star rated, means that it will use less water on the wash cycle probably, and a rain shower rinse, unless you select a fabric softner rinse, then maybe it fills up more traditionally? I personally like the hydrowave model, as I was fortunate enough to get a TOL WPRE8100 NON-energy star model in 2007. I love it, and have had no issues with it whatsoever (or the 2005 for that matter), and I hope to keep it going for many years. Just the ridiculous price of the pedestals alone, is enough for me to want to keep my top loaders going

 

[cami]

Model #

can you please specify the GE model# being discussed here...and is it available for purchase in Canada? This sounds like the machine I am looking for...I'm not sure which one it is on the GE Canada website.

I sold my Brand New GE Front Load set with our house (I hated them...we have 3 dogs and 2 cats...pet hair did not come off laundry or bedding) I opted to take my old Kenmore set to our new home...but it is so old...takes off pet hair no problem still...but it just isn't doing the deep clean or smell clean anymore!!

I need a top load because of space and I believe the agitator is a must for pet hair! I also read in this forum and in another about putting the machine on the fabric softener setting for a deep fill rinse...I think this is a must for removing pet hair too...I so hope this is the machine I need.

I would just like the model# for a little more research! A low noise is also a must have (not that we have that now) but our new home has a main floor laundry...not downstairs where I can set it and forget it!

(any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated too)

Thanks so much!

 

[rapunzel]

In order to be energy star compliant...

...why can't they use the mini basket and also re-introduce the sudsaver option?

 

[maytagbear]

Partly because

NEWLY built American homes (1970 onward) generally DO NOT have room in the laundry area for storage tubs that one needs for suds return. You're lucky to get enough room for side-by-side installation.

Lawrence/Maytagbear

 

[rapunzel]

That's an interesting point Lawrence,

Here in Oz laundries have always been small, never big enough for a side-by-side placement of washer/dryer, but a large laundry tub was standard issue. Now, homes are bigger and so are laundries, but the tubs have shrunk to sinks, they still don't really allow for side-by-side placement and it's all about cupboards and storage space. When I look at contemporary laundry design, I would even go so far to say that the placement and purpose of laundry equipment is almost incidental. There is a space for it, but the functionality of that room has very little to do with the execution of related tasks or improved ergonomics.

 

[bwoods]

warm rinse

Just out of curiosity, is there any General Electric model (or any brand for that matter) that has a "warm rinse" setting.

Question 2: Aren't the U.S. Government Energy Star ratings based on a machine's performance in the "normal" cycle. Couldn't GE and other brands offer a warm rinse in a special cycle without losing their Energy Star Rating??

Apparently this concept works for a "2nd rinse option" as Energy Star machines, such the Ge in this discussion, have one.

 

[qualin]

To the best of my knowledge, no modern top loader made today has a warm rinse option.

However, my front loader has it, which kind of struck me as odd..

The whole entire point to a warm rinse was to prevent wrinkles in synthetic fabrics. It was especially handy on permanent press cycles.

These days, if you want a machine with a warm rinse, you either have to go vintage or you have to buy a front loader with that feature.

 

[cuffs054]

My Frigamore stack has a warm rinse option, but it is all for show. Only the spray rinse is warm. The deep rinse is cold.

 

[rapunzel]

'no modern top loader made today has a warm rinse option

Speed Queen still does.

 

[pulsator]

"Speed Queen still does."

Not anymore! Not in the US at least. The front load washer does, but not the top loader.

 

[qualin]

My Huebsch front loader has a warm rinse option, but even the highest end Huebsch machine they sell in Canada doesn't have a warm rinse option.

Heck, even my GE top loader from 2004 doesn't have a warm rinse option.

The last time I saw a warm rinse option on a machine was on our 1982 vintage Inglis.. and it was very rarely used.

 

[kqkenmore]

My Speed Queen does not have a warm rinse I wish that it did fabric softner works better in warm.

 

[estesguy]

Now at Lowes

I saw both of these machines now on sale at Lowes. At least they will make a much better alternative than the infusor models that just bounced clothes around on the bottom of the tub. The one infusor model they had was on clearance sale. Both models are hydrowave, even though the lesser priced machine doesn't state that. It also is not energy star rated and has a much higher energy tag, so I'm thinking this machine might do a true fill up on wash and rinse.