We Got a breifing on this last night is a speical staff meeting . EVERYONE be VERY Careful! This is Deadly!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16691062/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16691062/
New staph infection can kill in 72 hours
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sudsmaster
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Sounds awful
But your link is imcomplete...
But your link is imcomplete...
Reggie, I'm glad you saw the answer to your own question. The guidlines in the hospital are to wash your hands with soap & water for 15 to 20 seconds and rinse thoroughly. You'd be surprised how many guys do NOT wash their hands after using the rest room. Grosses me out!!
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Yes, I heard about this on Coast to Coast (George Noory's program) and he is actually doing a special program soon, dedicated to this topic. He is based out of St. Louis and Los Angeles, and evidently these places have been hit hard enough for him to have already lost one acquaintance to it.
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I saw that on MSN earlier today. What next. Glad you posted it so people can be aware.
sudsmaster
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Link ok after all
It was the computer I was using at the time... too secure
It was the computer I was using at the time... too secure
I knew of someone at my workplace that got an infection similar to this and it killed him-so sad.Shows that hospitals can be dangerous places!All those sick and injured people together there can mean trouble if hospital workers don't keep clean(wash hands)and clean sanitize equipment properly.I bought a book on medical employee procudures and they are more strict now than what used to be.The book stresses frequent handwashing is the best precaution-in between pateints and vists to the rest room-and eating.also mentions employees shoudln't eat in pateint areas.They should use the hospitals cafeteria for meal and snack breaks.
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Sudsman, in your view, is it worthwhile to revisit the controversy over antibacterial soaps, detergents, etc., in view of this latest news?
I did return to good ol' fashioned Ivory soap at my kitchen washbasin, on the theory that, whereas, it may leave hands dry, it'll also scrub away any bad ol' germs that more moisturizing soaps might leave behind....
Where does good hygiene really begin, product-wise? How does the marketing hype affect our common-sense, day-to-day choices?
I did return to good ol' fashioned Ivory soap at my kitchen washbasin, on the theory that, whereas, it may leave hands dry, it'll also scrub away any bad ol' germs that more moisturizing soaps might leave behind....
Where does good hygiene really begin, product-wise? How does the marketing hype affect our common-sense, day-to-day choices?
Thanks Sudsman
For posting this link!
I am going to plaster this notice all over my office floor, and these men on my floor better read it!
Men are the WORST about washing there hands!!! Trust me, I know...but I won't say on here HOW I know...LOL
(And by men, I don't mean the men here at AW.org....I'm talking about the 60 engineers I have up here....so please no hate mail/replies) LOL
For posting this link!
I am going to plaster this notice all over my office floor, and these men on my floor better read it!
Men are the WORST about washing there hands!!! Trust me, I know...but I won't say on here HOW I know...LOL
(And by men, I don't mean the men here at AW.org....I'm talking about the 60 engineers I have up here....so please no hate mail/replies) LOL
There was a program on tv some time back now I remember watching where they did a "study" on the percentage of men and woman who do not wash their hands after using a public toilet. They used two methods.. one was a person obviously sitting in one of the stalls to anyone coming into the washroom and the other was a person "hiding" in the stall. In the cases where the person was obviously in the stall, more people using the facilities did wash their hands upon leaving. However when they were unaware anyone else was in the washroom, more people did not wash their hands. IIRC the percentages of washers/non-washers was the same for both men and woman.
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Scott, Anything that is done anitbact. soaps ect or hand sanitizers will always help insure you more like a insurance policy.. Years ago (back when a FL WAS Westinghouse only) in Certification classes instructors always instited that the ONLY true clean was hot water and chlorine bleach.. this is still true and until something major comes along will always be a good guide. Hot water can range from125 to 160 or so and still have mostly the same effect. We have found in test here that (confirmed by the hospital lab) that most santized loads come from warmer water and Bleach and NOT overloaded. As little as 1 lb overload , made a change in the Bacteric count on many test loads. It is strange that this should come up now as we are in the process of testing linen from the hospitals kitchen... You think a hospital kitchen is clean ? Well from what we have found so far, a restroom is cleaner. I will post the results as soon as the test are over.. You will be VERY shocked I assure you. I sure have been. Now There is NO WAY I will EVER eat out of a hospital again!
Scott, Anything that is done anitbact. soaps ect or hand sanitizers will always help insure you more like a insurance policy.. Years ago (back when a FL WAS Westinghouse only) in Certification classes instructors always instited that the ONLY true clean was hot water and chlorine bleach.. this is still true and until something major comes along will always be a good guide. Hot water can range from125 to 160 or so and still have mostly the same effect. We have found in test here that (confirmed by the hospital lab) that most santized loads come from warmer water and Bleach and NOT overloaded. As little as 1 lb overload , made a change in the Bacteric count on many test loads. It is strange that this should come up now as we are in the process of testing linen from the hospitals kitchen... You think a hospital kitchen is clean ? Well from what we have found so far, a restroom is cleaner. I will post the results as soon as the test are over.. You will be VERY shocked I assure you. I sure have been. Now There is NO WAY I will EVER eat out of a hospital again!
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Oprah Show and Bacteria
I was watching Oprah yesterday. She had a very bright young lady who did an experiment for a science project which entailed getting samples of ice cubes and toilet water from five (unnamed) fast food restaurants. In 4 out of 5 (I think) the toilet water had less bacteria than the ice cubes. YUCK!!
I was watching Oprah yesterday. She had a very bright young lady who did an experiment for a science project which entailed getting samples of ice cubes and toilet water from five (unnamed) fast food restaurants. In 4 out of 5 (I think) the toilet water had less bacteria than the ice cubes. YUCK!!
Gotta be careful with data concerning bacteria. Bacteria can be found everywhere, on everything. More to the point is what type of bacteria is found. Some bacteria are relatively harmless, some even beneficial.
Even though the bacteria count from the ice machine may have been higher, I'd still take my chances with that ice rather than the ice taken from the toilet, where your chances of getting infected by, oh, say, e-coli bacteria is much greater. Now THERE's a bacteria that'll ruin your day!
Even though the bacteria count from the ice machine may have been higher, I'd still take my chances with that ice rather than the ice taken from the toilet, where your chances of getting infected by, oh, say, e-coli bacteria is much greater. Now THERE's a bacteria that'll ruin your day!
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bacteria and Oprah
funny you say that, because e-coli was one of the bacteria that was higher in the ice than the toilet.
funny you say that, because e-coli was one of the bacteria that was higher in the ice than the toilet.
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Washing your hands with any kind of soap is good, as soap is antimicrobiotical to begin with. Just make sure you lather good and wash for at least 20-30 seconds and that should do it.
When we go grocery shopping we always wash our hands when we get home, even before we unload the groceries from the car. Since we have been doing this, we have had way fewer colds than we used to have. One can only imagine what is on those greasy, sticky, nasty grocery cart handles!
When we go grocery shopping we always wash our hands when we get home, even before we unload the groceries from the car. Since we have been doing this, we have had way fewer colds than we used to have. One can only imagine what is on those greasy, sticky, nasty grocery cart handles!
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Hand Washing, and those who don't...
Funny how many people who don't wash their hands after using the restroom are phobic about other people's germs. It's like THEIR germs are sainted or something, but other peoples' are nasty.
Years ago, I ran a small company staffed entirely by guys. The handwashing issue was so gross (NONE of them washed their hands. EVER.) that I finally called everyone into the break room for a meeting.
I told everyone that the washing of hands after using the restroom was mandatory, and that if I had to, I would fire over it, and put "REFUSAL TO WASH HANDS AFTER URINATION AND/OR DEFECATION" on the termination notice. To make sure everyone knew I wasn't joking (there were some snickers in the meeting), I put the paper towel holder in the hall outside my office, and told everyone I'd be keeping tabs on who did and didn't make use of it.
Matters improved dramatically. Sometimes you just gotta get people to understand you're freakin'-A serious.
Funny how many people who don't wash their hands after using the restroom are phobic about other people's germs. It's like THEIR germs are sainted or something, but other peoples' are nasty.
Years ago, I ran a small company staffed entirely by guys. The handwashing issue was so gross (NONE of them washed their hands. EVER.) that I finally called everyone into the break room for a meeting.
I told everyone that the washing of hands after using the restroom was mandatory, and that if I had to, I would fire over it, and put "REFUSAL TO WASH HANDS AFTER URINATION AND/OR DEFECATION" on the termination notice. To make sure everyone knew I wasn't joking (there were some snickers in the meeting), I put the paper towel holder in the hall outside my office, and told everyone I'd be keeping tabs on who did and didn't make use of it.
Matters improved dramatically. Sometimes you just gotta get people to understand you're freakin'-A serious.
More e-coli in ice than in toilet: YIKES!
Make mine a lukewarm Coke, please.
Make mine a lukewarm Coke, please.
I went from a summer job in the hospital's housekeeping dept. to part time work in the kitchen in the fall. I was amazed at the difference in attention to cleanliness. I would often be told to clean something, but there were no cleaning cloths. The folks I knew in the laundry said that the kitchen did not want to bother with keeping a stock of cleaning cloths and paying to have them washed. I worked out a deal with a friend in housekeeping to leave me some cleaning cloths each time I worked and I would return them to her to go through the laundry. I did enjoy being able to work the big flight type dishwasher. The conveyor was all of these fingers sticking up so nothing except glasses and sliverware needed trays. It really needed two people, one at each end, to make it efficient because the conveyor stopped once stuff started stacking up at the clean end. All of it had to be moved before the conveyor would start again. One person handling dirty dishes, washes hands or changes gloves and flies to the clean end to pick up hot plates. When I would get there on Saturday mornings, they would have already fixed and served breakfast and all of the pans and dishes were waiting all over for me. I would have to put the strainers and wash arms back in position, close the drains and then start filling that big dishwasher. There was a pipe about an inch and a half in diameter that came in through the back wall of the wash tank. Although you were not supposed to open the steam booster valve until water covered it, I had to see what it looked like so if no one was around, I would open it a little to see the steam escape. Fully opened, it made big roiling movement in the still water. I would have to add the detergent to the feeder and stir it up until the light indicated that the solution was strong enough. Once everything was full up, I would close the side doors and water valve. Then the huge pump could be turned on and I was up for a some fun. They always cooked oatmeal and grits in tall pots and they did not stir enough so there was always a half inch of the glop stuck to the bottom of the pan which I had to loosen with large spoons and then a brass or copper scrubber before it would emerge from the DW clean. None of the preparation stuff was ever rinsed or filled with water to keep the crud soft and wet. I had to get the china, glasses etc. from the cafeteria cleaned first because the nasty old man who ran the cafeteria would worry me to death until he had his clean dishes for lunch. It would have been nice if I had anybody to work with and talk to, but mostly I was somewhere cleaning after the cooking staff had made a mess and moved on. I learned about a lot of things like the French Top stove and the BIG griddle that would rust after I washed and rinsed it unless I wiped it down with vinegar. It was always hot enough that I did not have to worry about drying it. I enjoyed about all of that I could stand and was very happy to get a different job in January when Winter Quarter started.
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