P&G is at it again

[toploader1984]

So i was at target the other day and smelled liquid tide mountain spring, guess what??? The scent changed!!!!! Yeah big surprise there right??? (Not) anyways long story short emailed pg and the "original" scent has been "updated" both liquid and powder, while the old original scent is now put in the mountain spring bottle, so we now have two scents that smell the same (minor difference) and the mountain spring scent has been dropped, i do not understand pg!!!! Nedless to say i emailed pg and told them to forward my message to mr Shailesh G. Jejurikar, which is the president of fabric care north america, i also let them know that according to tons of reviews people are not happy including the scent change of downy april fresh.

 

[danemodsandy]

Tilting at Windmills:

I admire your resolve to communicate your displeasure to P & G, but it's obvious to me that stinkimus maximus is so deeply ingrained into their corporate culture that they don't know any other way to do things.

It has reached the point where I not only don't purchase P & G products, I won't even consider one. I won't take a "test sniff," nor do anything else that might bring me into contact with the stench of a P & G product, because it's a foregone conclusion that whatever "New and Improved" they come up with involves an even more nauseating odor than the one that went before.

What I have smelled makes me feel like P & G products are targeted to the kind of woman who idolized Malibu Barbie as a kid and idolizes Kim Kardashian today. It's a kind of fruity-flowery-bubble-gummy, excessively girly smell and IT STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN.

 

[tolivac]

Another thing about PG and other makers-foods and cleaning products-is their constant "package Shrinkitous"and charging the same prices as the older larger package-and they call it "our new resource saving package"!Companies---PLEASE KNOCK THIS OFF!!!!Sell me the POUND of detergent,chocolate mix,whatever instead of the "GYP YOU" size 12 oz or whatever-I am WILLING to pay the price!

 

[aquarius1984]

good lord this old chestnut

Tolivac thats all fine and dandy but your the only one willing to pay more.

When someone only has ....FOR INSTANCE.... $50 dollars to maintain their current standard of living and needs to buy 50 items at a dollar each to do so then putting more cents on the price of an item means that consumers WONT buy it because that means compromising buying another item.

Simple mathematics and psychology.

Id rather have a smaller cake mix and ultimately a smaller slice of cake in this situation than no cake at all just because 10 cents have been added to everything to allow for inflation. That's how people think when shopping these days.

Bitchin about it here isn't solving anything. Look at the bigger picture for once and see what is important to people with low disposable income budgets.

 

[tomturbomatic]

Soon all of that bitching and ballyhoo about the fragrance of Persil powder will seem quaint. The customer for whom the detergent companies used to design and perfume their products in this country is not the customer for whom they perfume and package products today.

We have seen reports posted about the illiterate or semi-literate people who come to coin laundries, pack as much as possible into washers then pour detergent without measuring before starting the washer with dumbed-down water temperatures. To them, cleanliness is measured by the removal to the stink and its replacement by strong sweet odors.

The name of the person who is now head of the fabric care for North America should give you a hint that control has passed out of our hands. Corporations are multinational now, owing no allegiance to any one country or group, regardless of country of origin or location.

 

[danemodsandy]

That's All Very Well, But....

I would be willing to bet that the unserved consumers - men and women - who would prefer not to smell like a budget-priced lady of the evening are a sizable market.

It seems to me that conditions are ripe for someone with some savvy to create a detergent with a "smell of clean" similar to '50 and '60s products and market it.

Most men would prefer not to smell like Kim Kardashian. Many, many women would like for laundry products not to compete with expensive fragrances. Other women don't like a "perfumey" smell at all (my mom was like this).

I strongly feel that an important market is being ignored.

 

[DigAPony]

Most men would prefer not to smell Kim Kardashian

I wouldn't mind smelling Kim Kardashian...

 

[gusherb]

I'm just waiting for the "new" powdered Mountain Spring to hit the shelves so I can have my "Original" scent back, last I checked powdered mountain spring was still the old scent on the shelves (which makes me wanna hurl)
I left a couple of reviews on their site back in the fall about this and all I got was "our mountain spring now contains the old original scent" Oy...
Meanwhile I've finally decided to try the bottle of Gain original I bought awhile back (that smells so good in the bottle) only to have my clothes come out smelling like perfumed kitty litter.

P&G (and anyone else following in their tracks) is quickly converting me to an unscented detergent user.

 

[murando531]

The only scent from P&G that I can still enjoy is original Gain, but ONLY the powder. The liquid smells completely different to me, as do the dish detergents, Mr.Clean with Gain cleaners; basically anything that has the Gain logo on it besides laundry detergent.

My all time favorite fabric softener was Downy Spring & Renewal, but it has been changed to the point that it makes me nauseous.

 

[stan]

Don't mean to hi jack the thread

But has anyone noticed that some of these "new" scents (even ones not made by P.G) take a couple of Washings to get out!
I just tried Whisk original and hated the scent, after re washing with non scented... Some of the scent is still there!
Can't imagine what it would be like to do laundry with the same scented detergent over and over? At some point...doubt it would ever come out of the fabric.
And who comes up with the scent in the first place? Who's makes it, tests it and says " oh this is it"

 

[gusherb]

Yes

It took me forever to get the stench of Tide w Febreeze out of my clothes, ironically the Gain Original that smells like kitty litter to me wore off pretty quickly. (Or I just got used to it quick as we used to have two stinky cats)
I've been trying the Wisk Original too, I can't quite place what it smells like but it's the lesser of the evils for me, but I did notice it sticks around a bit.

 

[stan]

Can't

Tell exactly what the Wisk is supposed to smell like either! Sort of has a fruity smell while it's washing, but changes to a petro chemical smell that someone threw a banana into while drying!
It did a good cleaning job, but I had also spiked it with about 3 Tbls of washing soda.
There's a little laundry room two doors down from me that is for four apartments there to use. I always smell horrid detergent, and fabric softener smells blowing out the dryer vents. There is were I sit laundry detergent that I hate, so it doesn't go to waste!
So they are going to get my bottle of Wisk to try! LOL

 

[stan]

There

Secret Santa will be late this year!

 

[kenmoreguy89]

I can just say that even the scent of laundry products of the 90s have nothing to do with today's ones.
Softeners and detergents, yes, now they all have either that cheap sweet fruity scent or the perfumy coologne whatever note, no fresh clean scents like before..all too sweet and emulating stuff external to laundry...sometimes I can barely distinguish them from cheap shower gels and or even candies and pops and teenage deodorants...
I recently used the esselunga store brand powder ( because they changed manufacturer and wanted to try it) and I swear smelled like root beer!
Few products still stick to what's proper to laundry perfuming...scent detergents and only detergents used to have...
Without touching the button of scent strenghth, I just wish laundry products would come with a scent type that's proper to laundry...
As others have said, nowadays for some people probably detergent is seen as a substitute for else.....so now they smell like else...
That's all too bad.......when all will become like this, I'll still have my dear soap flakes and my own made soaps....
But i see that for some people here, is not the scent kind that bothers them, but the presence of a scent itself...
I love scented laundry...but it must be a proper scent.
[this post was last edited: 12/29/2014-17:16]

 

[iej]

P&G is the same over here. Ariel used to smell nice! It now smells very, very strongly of pine needles crossed with lemon or something like that. It's very hard to put your finger on what the scent is as it's entirely artificial, but it's very pungent.

 

The only thing that smells close to it is one of the Aussi hair conditioners (the 3 minute miracle version ... only thing I've ever smelt that's close to Ariel)

 

Ariel of old used to smell just 'clean' and quite nice.

 

Meanwhile Unilever's Persil's not quite as whiffy. The powders smell quite nice but much stronger than the old formula. It's a scent that's not quite as artificial as Ariel.

 

Persil Small and Mighty Liquid smells rather unique, it's quite a nice, very non-floral smell but it's very definitely 100% synthetic. 

 

[hoover8pulse]

Ariel has a very citrusy smell, combined with blue Lenor produces a nice scent. Bold is the one to watch it has so much perfume in it these days you are able to tell who's washed their clothes in it it's that strong.

Persil non bio powder doesnt have a nice smell. Well not in the box anyway. On finished laundry it smells pleasant, with some blue Lenor they combine quite nicely surprisingly.

 

[BoschExxcel]

The smell of Ariel powder is delightful. That's one of the reasons I buy it! We've always had ariel and always will, the scent makes me love it even more.mixed with Lenor infusions its laundry heaven!

 

[mayken4now]

And even more

Than their stinch, it stinks up my washers. Clothes I can replace, but my washers are vintage and cannot be replaced.

I remember the days (at 53 now) when one could open the lid to any washer and take a wiff!!!! It was nice. Now, it's all mold, be it top or front load. You guys are exactly right. STINCH MAXIMUSS!

 

[mrboilwash]

The problem is even if P&G (and others) wanted to spoil us with those great scents from the past they simply couldn`t do it because of constant restictions.

Scent oils usually consist out of myriad of chemicals and many of them get constantly outlawed or otherwise restricted like in quantity of use. What has been considered safe yesterday so often turns out a carcinogen or as a potent allergen or whatever.

And it`s not only about detergent, for example Chanel No 5 should actually be called Chanel No 500 today because it had to be reformulated countless times and has very little to do with its original scent.

Another problem with detergents seems to be cost reduction. Good scent oils are expensive and I think shrinking the packages is only one part to combat inflation.