Philips TopTwin De Luxe Boiling - Lessiveuse Style

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Take a look at the Philips TopTwin De Luxe twintub with boiling action, it acts like the Frenck Laundry Pots, Lessiveuse style. The 3kw heater under the agitator heats and boils the water and wash solution. As the water boils it is forced up the centre of the agitator where it is released through the holes atop. Fascinating action....

 
Such fun

Basically Phillips combined the traditional French "Lessiveuse" laundry boiler with an automatic washing machine.

Percolating boiling water through laundry is an age old French invention to lessen the work on wash day. Devices similar to the "mushroom" were sold in other countries including the USA for use in laundry boiling pots as well.

Would be such a fun machine to have but can only imagine how long it took even at 3kW to heat all that water.

If you ever thought your laundry was "clean" coming out of the wash put it for a boil. You'd be amazed at what muck remains in the water after ten minutes.

Thanks for sharing the vid!

 
Kinda reminds me of a percolator bubbling away. I can only imagine how much cleaner the whites get at that boil wash temp. One thing I wonder though, with today's detergents that are enzyme laden, wouldn't those high temps kill the enzyme action? And if one used chlorine bleach, I can only imagine the aroma coming from the washer.
 
A very interesting washer action! 

 

The video appears to be edited such that we don't see how the percolation action begins; Is it something that happens as the water reaches boiling temperature? Or does it gradually start as the heater cycles on and off to the 'peak' (as seen on the video) before stopping rather abruptly? 

 

It also seems very little water is used in this process. I can imagine that with the gradual heating process, and highly concentrated detergent:water/clothes solution, you'd get an excellent profile wash if you started cold and worked your way to boiling temperature. 

 

Thanks for sharing this interesting tidbit of laundry. Looks to be extremely effective. 

Now to go and buy some heavy cotton shirts and pants that can withstand boiling and find one of these machines. LOL! 
 
The Hotpoint Supermatic I had used to do this as well, took me by surprise the first time I heard it. Was always careful to stand back a bit and keep my hands well clear of the tub when boiling, because that water surges out with some force.

Re: enzymes. In the past, most soap powders and detergents (with the odd exception such as Ariel) didn't contain them in the first place. More likely to rely on oxygen bleaches instead, which are ideally suited to high temperature washes. Modern twin tub detergents generally DO contain enzymes, but wash temperatures today are, for the most part, lower across the board than they would have been 20 or 30 years ago. It also helps that enzymes are now active across a broader temperature range than was previously possible.
 
No, there isn't much water used

Much as with making percolator coffee the amount of water used in a traditional lessiveuse boiler and by extension the Phillips machine is small in relation to amount of laundry.

The idea is not to have washing sitting suberged in water, rather the small amount of concentrated water/detergent boiling/hot water solution is recirculated through the wash. Water is sent up through the center stem, up and out of the mushroom and sprayed onto the laundry. It seeps down to the bottom of the pot where the cycle begins all over again. With a traditional lessieveuse pot if the lid is kept closed water forms a constant stream once the proper temperature is reached. However when the lid is taken off you get that perculating affect.

The lessiveuse pot is a direct invention coming from the old French way of doing laundry. Things would be put into a barrel/container,some sort of cloth or strainer on top and filled with ashes. Water was then poured over the ashes that would subsequently filter down throught he laundry and come out the bottom via a spigot/hole. This solution was collected and reintroduced again at the top of the laundry. Thus began a manually fed loop that ended the first stage of washing. In some parts of Europe (the UK) this soaking in an alkaline solution was called "bucking"

Lessiveuse pots took off in France and elsewhere with the invention of Persil. Due to its main ingredient "sodium perborate" the high heat of boiling cleaned, sanitised, removed stains and whitened all without the hard work of beating and slapping laundry about.

Yes, because laundry products then didn't contain enzymes there wasn't any worry about deactivating them via boiling either on the range or in a washing machine like the Phillips.
 
Mike,

thanks for sharing the video.

Me too, I never saw anything like that in a washing machine.
I knew the French Laundry Boiler, but I have never seen a combination like this.

Just Great !
 
Great video Mike - a bit of Iceland in your kitchen (not the Kerry Katona version either!)

I'm gonna have to get the Supermatic out now to see if I can replicate it in that although I doubt it will be quite as dramatic as the Top Twin
 
My Servis twin tub does that too, with a 3kwh heater it takes 35 minutes to heat water 40 to 100 for the full tub, to get this with water this low I think it'd take 15- 20 mins or so ....
I knew well the lessiveuse pots, here in Piemonte were commonly used.in apartments as in France
The percolator mushroom it's rather a French thing, intoduced here by the french...you don't find them much in others parts of Italy or europe.
They were used both as a way to save so use less ashes and wash solution, and only way for those who had limited space..so ones living in small apts....then back then every bit of ash and soap was precious back then...
I used to have one of these pots, but sold it at a flea market.
It's sure not as effective as boiling and washing in immersion, but not all had the space and means....
I knew that in Germany,instead they were more prepared/organized and had common large tubs embedded in bricks and heated by wood... common laundry rooms, laundry was agitated by wooden spoons and laundry plungers at full boiling reached it sure took less time than a percolation thing...matter of few minutes..more effective.
You can watch whatever old german persil "werbung"...which shows the common way back then over there...
Anyway....until the lave-linge automatique entered french homes, this is what you found to boil laundry in french homes...you also had a specific Tide "pour boillir"-"to boil" to use in these pots at one point (that later kept the same formula to boil in H axis automatics), it had a blue box instead of the classic orange one, it would not foam as much as regular Tide and was formulated specifically...even though much people boiled with the regular Tide also..it had perborate too.

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Mike....
Boiling as higher temps always been an alternative to chlroine, nobody would boil with chlroine....even more not by the time twin tubs as the Philips were available and so "detergents".
First, because as said if you boil like that you will get same result as if using chlorine, and second, because when it's true that chlorine kills your fabric already in cool or warm, boiling with chlroine would mean having to trash your clothes as boiling/temperatures enhances every reaction.
Boiling is not a technique that did born thanks to perborates, but it's always been common, as for the french pots and anywhere else it was what you did for heavily soiled whites with soap and a little soda ash to get the right alkalinity of wash solution...soda ash is already an excellent whitener itself if used in boiling.
As Launderess said it all did born from the idea of "Bucking", what here was called "conca del bucato"- which was made both as bleaching-soaking and to extract the soda you needed for the actual wash process, before the soaps (fat saponifications) were plentily available and reachable, ash, ammonia, saponaria leaves and other cleaning compounds were all you had to do laundry and cleaning.
Later as soaps became the main "cleaning compound" and available for just everyone you would have people putting soda ash and lye along with soap, eventually boiling alltogheter....
Perborate later was what did save further work and boiling time because it would take less time to whiten, destain and sanify...we can say it was among the first "self-acting" compund..in minutes you had whites done vs boiling for hours that you needed with boiling with a simple soap/soda solution.
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Though sounds easy enough in theory, when it came to practice boiling laundry in a tub/vessel isn't simple as one might think.

Problem comes from keeping all wash submerged under water. Hence all the sticks, poles, and other objects used to push or prod laundry under water. As you can imagine standing over a large boiling vessel of water is *not* fun. Made less so when the method of heating was an open fire or heated range.

Using percolation means not only is less water required but the cycle is self maintaining once properly established. This means Madame or whomever could leave the Lessiveuse to do its work while they didn't have to stand over a hot fire/heat.

European households and laundries probably held onto boiling longer than otherwise due to the main bleaching agent being sodium perborate. That oxygen based bleach so famously developed in Persil requires temps of or >140F to really get going. The introduction of bleach activator (TAED) allowed perborate bleaching systems to work at lower temperatures.

Its patent long expired in Europe and now in general use for most all detergents with bleaching agents TAED was developed as an answer to the energy crisis of the 1970's IIRC. The idea was to get housewives and others weaned off all those boil washes (now most always done in semi or fully automatic washing machines). You start to see "energy saving" ranges on Miele and other washing machines around the 1970's/1980's. Though washing laundry at 180F (the range on my Miele is 80F to 180F) may seem odd labeled as "energy savings" suppose in the government bean counter's minds it was better than 200F.
 
Meanwhile back at the ranch....

On the other side of the pond routine boiling of laundry at least in domestic laundry went out with semi then fully automatic washing machines.

Though long held in distain by Europeans American housewives and many laundries employed chlorine bleach (eau de Javel) for whitening, stain removal and sanitizing. Hot water of course was needed especially when soap and most early detergents were used more so for whites.

It is important to remember why all this boiling was going on in the first place.

Leaving aside the sanitation and bleach activation properties laundry was boiled as a way to lessen the work of hand washing.

Prior to going into any boiling vessel laundry had already been pre-washed/soaked (all except coloured things likely to dye bleed). Boiling completed the washing process by allowing textile fibers to expand and thus release soils easily. What remained could be often tackled with less scrubbing or brute force than otherwise employed.

One *NEVER* boils dirty laundry.

Absent boiling laundry would be subjected to beating, whipping, battering, slapping and all sorts of mechanical action in efforts to shift dirt. As you might imagine a few trips through such laundering processes left textiles looking worse for wear. This fed into all that darning, mending and patching once a common part of housekeeping. It wasn't that persons were wearing out their clothing/linen, but the laundering process helped things along.

When American women/laundries got machines that did the washing it supplied the mechanical force. What remained were the other three parts of good laundry process: time, chemicals and water temperature. Since chlorine bleach will whiten and sanitize in warm or just hot water the need for boiling diminished in America.

It is interesting to see all over Europe various early washing machines with fireboxes/boilers attached. Whereas in the USA at least domestically households relied upon heating water elsewhere (a range, water heater, etc...) then sending or bringing it to the washer.

"1924: In the 1920s, wooden-tub washers from Miele were to be found in many private homes. This new technology soon caught the attention of laundries, hotels, hospitals, convalescent homes and large estates although they needed considerably bigger machines. The solution was to come from Miele's Gütersloh plant in the form of a coal-and gas-fired drum washer. The previously common wooden-tub washers with a paddle-type agitator were replaced by an electrically driven horizontal-axis metal drum. For the first time, it was no longer necessary to pour hot water into the tub as water was now heated in a side container which formed an integral part of the machine. The drum consisted of sheet copper, with perforations created from the inside working outwards in order to ensure the gentle treatment of laundry. The first model from the '00' series had a load capacity of almost 8 kg of laundry. Slowly but surely, Miele added more models to the range, some of which had a 30 kg capacity and were heated with steam."

 

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