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Re: Bidding on this Filter Queen Vacuum Cleaner:

If anyone knows of someone else in either the Appliance Club or Vac Club, that were going to look into Bidding on this Filter Queen Vacuum Cleaner, please be courteous to me seeing that I feel I've been courteous to others and not Bid against anyone, at least since I've gotten to know pretty much everyone's Screen Names, and/or Bidding purposes Names now. I might have Bid against someone quite some time ago, when I was new to the Appliance Club Site and didn't know most everyone as of yet, but it certainly wasn't done on purpose. I would gratefully appreciate this respect as others do also <br
Peace and Happy Filter Queen Vac Owner's, Stev
SactoTeddyBear...
 
These are GREAT FQ vacs-probably their best model.I have seen many of these used by vac shop techs to clean out customers vacs brought in for service.They are tough.Sadly the ones the techs use are pretty beat up.the paint is faded or scratched and the container is dented.These are ones they get as trade in or get this customers "abandon" them.I have been watching out for one too-have the vac shop operators looking.I have the "brown model" but not the "pink" one.both are excellent.their motors are more powerful than the motors used in todays "plastic" FQ vacs.The one shown in the link is in unusally good condition.nice machine-hope some Applianceville Vac guy gets it.
 
Re: Sorry:

I want everyone to know that I didn't Post my Thread writing to make anyone think that I'm talking about someone in our Club's. I Posted because someone the other day did try to Outbid on me and I think and hope that it was someone who either didn't know me as a Member of the Appliance Club Site or who wasn't theirselves a Member of either Club <br
"BTW" would someone please let me know what the Web-Address is for the Vac Club, I've seen about it on this Site, but I don't know the access to it. I would gratefully appreciate the info. I wish everyone well and hope all are having a wonderful Weekend of Fun, Washing, Drying and Cleaning. Would you either E-Mail me or include the Web-Address in a Thread Posting for me, Pleaz <br
Peace and Happy Filter Queen Wishes, Stev
SactoTeddyBear...
 
FYI !!! shipping is NOT fixed, but an ESTIMATE !!

I just inquired about the vac and how they could ship something that big and heavy for only $30.00 priority. and here was his reply and below that I put my reply ........... <br
Hi: Yes, and the $30 is basically an approximate shipping charge..it will depend on how large the box is that I have to use to ship it and if I can get everything in ONE box..I may have to ship it in two different boxes, and yes, everything will be bubble wrapped. It would NOT ship Priority, for that would cost a good deal more...this is a very heavy Cleaning machine. It would have to be insured also. I don't know that I put that in the listing but I feel it would be at too great a risk to send it uninsured. Thank you much for your interest; have a great day <br
now my reply to above ............ <br
thanks for your reply, If I may please suggest your revising your listing whereas if your fixed rate of shipping is $30.00 as you state in your listing and that you will ship priority for $30.00 that contradicts your email above where you say the $30.00 is approximate, but it does not say in your listing that the shipping is an approximate or estimate and now you are saying above that you will not ship priority ??? It is important to me that this be shipped priority whereas, the difference between priority and parcel is literally a couple dollars and parcel goes through many handlers, multiple "holding" facilities. Priority SIGNIFICANTLY goes through a couple handlers and only one other locale on average. This HUGELY reduces loss and likelihood of damage. Let me know your thoughts and I sure hope I have not come across in any bad or disrespectful fashion at all. Thanks for your consideration in advance.
 
Sacto Teddy Bear

The web address for the Vacuum Cleaner Collectors Club is www.vaccc.com. This should get you to the home page. But to use the forum there is a 25.00 a year membership fee. At a later time I will post some of the sites that are list on members only section. Some great collections and pics out there. If your interested in joining I beleive you can click on that link on the website and it will give you further instructions.
 
Re: Tank-U:

PeteK and Vinvac for the info about the Vac Web-Site. I will have to think about joining that Site. I don't feel that it should be charging at all, or at least quite so much, even though $25.00 per year isn't really that bad, but it is if your on a limited budget, most of the time <br
Peace and Happy Vac Collecting, Stev
SactoTeddyBear...
 
Regardless of paying a yearly fee which may be worth it, it's the fact that you can't get in to see what your buying. At least let people have a look and whet their apettites and set it up so only paying members can chat on the forum.
 
Bidding on this Filter Queen Vacuum Cleaner:

Hi all <br
I know that many of you are very close and I have a lot of respect for that and I'm not trying to cause any trouble but am I the only one who has a small problem with the suggestion that I wouldn't be courteous if a club member bids against another "club" member? Steve, I don't know you so this is by no means a personal attack. It's just that I have seen these suggestions/requests in other collecting communities and it has been a very sticky situation with many hurt feelings. I would rather broach this now instead of when it could be a problem that may involve me <br
Let me give a hypothetical situation, if I may. Let's assume that I, too, saw this same Filter Queen and it was just like the one that my grandmother had when I was growing up. It then becomes very nostalgic for me to purchase it. In fact it is so important that I'm willing to bid a ridiculous amount to own it so that I can recapture my youth. Now I have to think about bidding against a club member. Isn't eBay an auction? <br
Steve, Do you think that the suggestion of not bidding against you might possibly put your "friends" in an awkward position? I have always told my friends (when we go to auctions together) that I don't want anyone to "back off" as this interferes with the whole auction process and hurts the seller as well as the possibility of hurt feelings. Some times I walk away a winner but sometimes I walk away losing to a friend. I just chock this up to "this is life in the auction arena" . <br
I'm by no means the "auction police" so I will not bore you with the details that what was suggested is a federal crime BUT as an active eBay buyer and seller (this is how I can afford to indulge in my hobbies) I can say that if I were the seller of this Filter Queen then there would have been a big problem. Who knows... the next auction that catches everyone's attention just may be...or one of YOURS!! :- <br
I'm expect that I will be flamed for this post (I hope not) but it has been kind of bugging me for a couple of days now and I just had to get it off of my chest. I would welcome a healthy, constructive discussion about this :-) <br
Steve....I AM sorry that you didn't win the FQ. It was a real looker. You'll find another one!!! The closest thing that I have to it is the original box that was from MY grandmothers pink FQ!! :-) I was considering bidding BUT a couple other things came up instead. <br
Very respectfully!!
Rich
 
rich, i agree with you. maybe its best for members of a groups such as this to simply not discuss our intentions? between friends i can understand some compromise but between a large group, too messy.
 
Who's got a match, my flamethrowers gone out!!!!! LOL <br
Hmmm, well I never thought of it that way Rich and I can see your point but then I can see it the other way as well. Is this what a you call a debacle or a conundrum? <br
Brett..the problem lies in that even if you don't discuss your intentions most people probably know the others i.d and can see them bidding on the same item. That is, those who use the same ebay/washer forum id at the least.
Personally myself I wouldn't but if for some reason it came down to it I suppose the valiant thing to do would be to let them know beforehand why. <br
 
When it comes right down to it, no one owes anyone outside of their family/spouse a living. However snatching something from someone known to really to want it is just mean IMHO. Some are blessed to be in a position to pay any amount for an item, others are just not so lucky. What is wrong with giving someone else a chance <br
While one does like posting links to live auctions that may be of interest here in the group, have to wonder if at times such postings are counter productive. Just so every one knows, when I see an auction with a member (am pretty good knowing who is who these days)already bidding, I will not post the link here. Now and then one may slip by, but as learn that person was/is a member, will give them the courtesy of not "blowing their game" <br <br
As for Steve's post, saw nothing wrong as he spoke the truth. The man is a very nice person (so far as one knows), and merely asked people he considers his friends/co-collectors to give him the same consideration he gives others. Was it wise to expect such a thing, or express it openly? Who can say? <br
Launderess
 
I agree with Rich. I just buy on ebay. I have won many and lost many. This is what an auction is. Now if you are at a live auction with a friend that could be a little different. On ebay there are many bidders. So, it may not also be your friend that out bid you <br
Ray
 
Who's got a match, my flamethrowers gone out!!!!! LOL

Thank goodness I am wearing my asbestos undies :- <br
Barring the legal issue I don't think that it would be a debacle since I don't see a failure. A conundrum....sure <br
I do know of one list/club that has an unwritten rule about not discussing eBay auctions and though it seems to work it isn't very productive for those who wish to gain knowledge/research about the item and this is generally done by discussing it with your fellow collector friends. I have to believe that we, as adults, should be able to handle this in a good way with out squelching speech. I am going to reply more to Laundress's post in another post so read on if you like :-)
 
Launderess !

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "When it comes right down to it, no one owes anyone outside of their family/spouse a living." Can you please clarify <br
" However snatching something from someone known to really to want it is just mean IMHO. Some are blessed to be in a position to pay any amount for an item, others are just not so lucky. What is wrong with giving someone else a chance?&quot <br
I would agree if it is being "snatched" just because the other person wants it. That is just deliberate nastiness and it happens...I've seen it:-) As far as anyones finacial ability to buy things...well...it just shouldn't be an issue. I have bid against people who are wealthy and have won items. It boils down to who wants it more. To sum it up...It matters not who wins as long as everyone played with integrity. I don't believe that I ever said anything about giving someone a chance. I'm all for it! But I AM against being asked/told to back off of an auction just because the other person wants it. This isn't fair to ask of a group of people especially friends IMOHO <br
"...will give them the courtesy of not "blowing their game".&quot <br
Laundress, I couldn't agree with you more. I think that this is a wonderfull courtesy that I extend as well. I know what it's like to search for hours and think that I may have found something that nobody else saw only to have someone ask an innocent question about it on a club list. Then the people with "deep pockets" bid it through the roof. OYE!!How frustrating...but the nature of the beast <br
"As for Steve's post, saw nothing wrong as he spoke the truth. The man is a very nice person (so far as one knows), and merely asked people he considers his friends/co-collectors to give him the same consideration he gives others." <br
I don't think that I incinuated that he lied about anything and I'm sure that he is a very nice person. I don't know him but everything that I've read points me to that conclusion. I can see that we (Steve and I) have similar taste in vacuum cleaners :-). Steve has every right to extend any courtesy that he wishes but I do take issue with being made to feel that if I bid against him (or anyone else) that I will be thought of in a bad light. This now puts ME in an akward position that I shouldn't have to be in. My rule of thumb is that if I really want something and I have worked hard to find it and afford it then I will bid on it. If I know that a friend really wants it then I may suggest a solution. Let's say that you are willing to pay $10 and I'm willing to pay $20 then we both bid. If I win it for the bid above you ($11) then you pay the $11 and you can have it. If it goes for more than that then we know that someone else bid and you weren't the immediate under-bidder but at least I didn't lose it at $11 when I was willing to pay $20. If I win...YAY and if not...congrats to the winner! So far I have not lost any friends with this attitude! Many respect it and agree <br
I do hope that Steve will chime in on this discussion. I would realy like to know more about his feelings on this. Steve... <br
Respectfully
<br
 
Re: Thank You:

For everyone's support and heartfelt feelings about my not being the Winning Bidder. What I was trying to express as far as being my feelings of what I would consider "Fairness" is if someone who is a Member of a Club similar to ours or the Vac Club {even thought I'm not a member at least not yet of the Vac Club} I feel that someone who knows the person/member of a Club Bidding on an item, that no one else should be Bidding against that person <br
It has really upset me to think that I did in fact have to loose out on the Filter Queen, because of someone else {probably in this case} of not being familiar to us, or not a Member of either Club, or this person "just doesn't give a DAMN" about who they hurt, upset, Bid against, etc. <br
If this did happen to be someone who is a Member of either the Appliance or Vac Club and did possibly know who I was by my Screen Name {which almost everyone does know} I can't believe that someone could be as inconsiderate to me or anyone else <br
Thank you Launderess and everyone else for you special support and caring way, making me feel somewhat better about this matter happening. It means a great deal to me, as I'm no doubt sure that it does to anyone and everyone else, when they aren't able to get something however and another Club Member Friend, or even just a Dear Friend let's them know that they were sorry about seeing/hearing that someone they know didn't Win a Bid or couldn't afford otherwise something they really wanted, because someone else had to be such a Jerk about Bidding against or offering more Money for any given Item <br
I know and admit that it is true that maybe something else even much better or different, but similar will come around someday, that at least for me, hopefully I will see either at a Yard Sale, Garage Sale or an Estate Sale and have all original Parts and Owner's Manuals and reasonably Priced that I can afford to get it, but in the mean time, I hope that everyone will try to be courteous with me and others and be helpful and supportive, instead of "Walking All Over Someone" or "Stabbing them in their Back" or whatever else and to not feel or be Negative towards others. We've all been here for each other throught thick and thin and everyone for the most part has been supportive, helpful and always able to make someone feel wanted and that they belong. We also do our best to get difficult Repairs worked out, with extra help and support, as to "How To" do something, if we aren't quite sure as to how something is giving us problems <br
Thank you again, for everyone's support on my losing on the Bidding, I really appreciate the support, concern and extra info and additional info and "Pro's and Con's" from what I attempted to write to try and express my feelings of courtesy to others <br
I've tried to do my best to express myself of my feelings here, as to how I feel about what happened. I'm not always the best writer, but I try my best as I know how <br
Peace, Good Times, Happy Daze, Wonderful Friends, Stev
SactoTeddyBear...
 
Hi Steve <br
I'm glad that you weighed in on this and told me your feelings. I won't belabor my point so I'll make this very short and to the point. <br
By asking your fellow club members not to bid on an auction and have them reply in writing puts you and them in an unlawful position by deliberately breaking the Sherman Anti-Trust Act. This is considered collusion and restraint of trade. It's not whether you win or lose the auction. The collusion itself is the crime. Steve Proffitt, an auctioneer, lawyer, and regular columnist for Antique Week, the largest paid circulation antiques trade newspaper in the US, has reported on this regularly over the last 5 years that I have subscribed. This is a serious crime and people are paying dearly for these crimes on a regular basis at little country auctions as well as major international auctions. <br
Please understand that I will not partake in breaking the law and will, myself, bid on what I choose. What other people decide to do, privately, is up to them. But by having it posted in a public forum, you and your friends who reply are at risk! Hopefully you will consider this a courtesy rather than an admonishment <br
Happy collecting <br
Rich
 
well put

Rich, I could not agree with your posts more and the last above one is perfect in summary in my opinion. I have bid against club members that I do not know personally and have been bid against and have NEVER taken it PERSONALLY. That is what an auction is for and about. I have, I admit, however, in consideration of someone I in fact do know personally asked them if they mind my joining in the bidding. Such friends have said, "by all means", I have also not bid if I have seen a friend, not an acquaintance, who has already bid. It is a difficult call and can be a "no-win" battle so to speak. I don't understand the judgement and "personalization" that appears to take place because someone loses a bid or the "shame" that comes across as being cast to the winning bidder. Some people make a lot of money and can bid high, some people don't have much money and can't bid as high. Some people have storage and basements, others have just an apartment. Some people have hundreds of machines, others have none or a handful. THATS JUST LIFE, its not always "fair". What is fair are the choices YOU as an individual make with your given circumstances and the chips will fall as they do. I have seen vintage appliances go for well into four digits, but I have tried to sell somewhat similar but not even equal apps on ebay with zero bids. So is that fair ? its just the way the cards fell. Dealing with disappointment is one thing, but shaming and blaming accomplishes ???
 
Greg <br
Well, I'm glad that you agree AND posted to this thread!! I have been known to not bid on something because I knew that a friend really wanted it , AND most importantly, I really didn't want it that badly!! This is a courtesy that I think that many of us have extended. These are only material objects and I can't get that hung up or on upset with it all <br
I hope that people realize that I can empathize with people, when they lose, BUT if it's sympathy that is required...It can be gotten from the dictionary. It's right between sh%t and syphilis! <br
 
It's right between sh%t and syphilis!

ROFL. oh stop! ROARNG HER <br
As grandma used to say, insanity and mental illnesses do not go into the mountains, they go into the people <br
Perhaps someone needs his dosages adjusted
And new bateries! ROL
 
That's not fair.........

THATS JUST LIFE, its not always "fair". <br
Well here is Toggle's nasty opinon YET again. Sorry kid <br
"It's not fair" means "I didn't get MY way."
T F bad. NEXT. <br
As every three-year-old knows; you can't always get your way. DEAL WITH IT.
 
And to all my paranoid/negative/defeatist *friends* out there <br
Yes, the universe is conspiring AGAINST YOU- you just can't win <br
Stick you head in the gas oven and make the world a better place, already <br
*SIGH* <br
Too much said LOL
 

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