Pre-Holiday Maytag Reverse Rack Wash Load

[bwoods]

Daren,

You Maytag is really clean!

Don't be upset about being put out of the kitchen! It's happened to me too.

Anyone who washes their dishes off with a sponge, before putting them in a dishwasher, is not fully in touch with reality.

I was not that fond of the one Whirlpool tall tub that I had, because it had trouble with dried oatmeal and egg yolks in the top rack. However, it was very good at disposing of a lot of leftovers on the dishes, despite its lack of hard core scrubbing ability. It is good machine for people who don't rinse their dishes.

So your friend would have been surprised at how it would have disposed of the scraps on your Thanksgiving load.

I'll save up a load of really dirty dishes and photograph them before and after. Then show them to your friend.

Dishwasher and disposers suffer more from wives tales, I think, than any other appliance. You would think, in this age, people would at least be willing to try a scientific experiment and do a load of unrinsed dishes.

The reality is, psychologically, people don't like to challenge thier set ideas (whether they are based on wives tales or not.) If they challenge them, and they find out they are wrong, it is a direct attack on their ego.

Unfortunately, few have the ability to use the intellect to override the ego.

So, it was better for your "friend" to kick you out of the kitchen (with no regard to your feelings) and to preserve his ego, than to risk allowing you to prove his belief in a wive's tale is a delusion.

 

[bwoods]

Sorry about the typo and misspelling your name, Darren.

 

[MaytagA710]

Nice to see your DW is working nicely for you Barry. Thanks for the pictures, I really do enjoy how different these machines are.

 

[combo52]

HOLIDAY DISHES AND DISHWASHING

Darren sorry to here that you were put out of the kitchen when you were offering help, your hosts were the real losers. But I would have real droughts that this person is a real friend if they cannot recognize your talents and abilities. And does this friend have no respect for the environment? or any respect for

 

His dishwasher

 

His dishes 

 

His plumbing

He is harming all these items by pre-rinsing dishes.

 

I go to a lot of very nice dinner parties and no one has ever tried to stop me from putting thier dishes in thier machine dirty. Sometimes they have briefly questioned that I was putting them covered with food but the results have always been great.

 

 

 

As far as using paper plates or worse yet plastic plates and table ware to eat on when guests are in your home I could never  imagine doing this. I am going to have are Xmas car club dinner at my house again this year and we will serve about 85 people dinner and not one paper plate let alone paper napkin or paper towel will be used.

 

Even if it costs 50 cents to run a full cycle in a DW that doesn't buy many paper plates and it is far easier to get plates out of the cabinet and put them away after they come out of the DW than going to the store. 

 

[launderess]

Paper Plates

Usually Thanksgiving dinner is hosted at my favourite aunt's house, has been that way for ages now and the rest of us have *our* own holiday/event to host.

It's her kitchen and her house, old as I am would have to eat Thanksgiving dinner through a straw if I tried to impose *my* views on how Aunt D should run her house/host a dinner.

For years we did use china and silver but many of the older women in the family who have been doing family event dinners longer than I've been on this earth saw it as a waste of time and energy. This even as cousins and I have been old enough to reach the sink have been drafted into clearing and washing up. Even this Thanksgiving found me in the kicthen with my hands in hot water! *LOL* So it's not like the senior females of the family have much to do with KP duty, other than supervising where things go and calling us back to fetch.

For the record my aunt does have a dishwasher (besides her daughter, grand-daughters, nieces etc...), but she rarely uses the thing. Like many old school southern women the thing is a "comfort", and does serve a purpose sometimes...

If Mr. Obama or someone equally important was coming to Thanksgiving dinner have no doubt we'd break out the *good stuff*, but for just the family I for one am not opposed to "paper". I say this as one who has been stuck in that kitchen with hands in hot water for hours washing and drying dishes that aren't even mine.

Am probably the only person I know that rolls up to family events with Playtex gloves and extra hand lotion in my bag! *LOL* Often one would notice on the drive home one had wash day red hands.

 

[peteski50]

Dishwasher Loading!

In many situations I have been in I was always able to load many dishwashers. And mostly always without prerinsing. The people that let me do the loading always said I got the most tableware in and always got surpurb results. I am happy I had the privligle of loading a lot of vintage machines. It was so great especially after many dinner parties.
But their are still those that not only prerinse but some people put them in so clean you can eat off them. (what a waste of energy) - but botton line you will never get through to them so I don't even bother to try. Remember a Leopard dosent change it spots.
As for paper plates - this is the way the world has become - some feel it is easier not to fuss. Even though I am not into paper plates except maybe at a barbacue or if a lack of a dishwasher, I still perfer to see people user paper goods than to see people pre washing dishes before loading in the dishwasher.
Peter

 

[bwoods]

It's working well, Kevin. Thanks again for the wiring diagrams. I am still trying to fit a WU401 timer into the machine, so it will give a third final rinse.

The Maytag cleans remarkably well, but still doesn't quite scrub baked on things as well as my GE 2800 or GSD 1200. I would say the power of the Maytag is much greater than the GE's (judging by an 8.0 amp motor versus a 5.5 amp motor.)

However, the Main Wash part of the cycle is only about 12 minutes on the Maytag versus over 45 minutes on the GE. So the Maytag is getting dishes almost as clean as the GE's with only about one fourth of the wash time.

Once I install the 401 timer, I will use the pulse that trips the detergent cup to initiate a normally closed, power off delay relay, which will break the power to the timer motor for a preset period of time. Hence, increasing the Main Wash time.

I suspect with three final rinses and a 45 or 50 minute wash time, the Maytag will outscrub anything out there. This would make my WU242, roughly equivalent to the WU601, but with even a longer main wash.

If I use a DPDT relay, I may even be able to get the heating element on during the wash phase, while the timer is being delayed. In other words, while one side of the relay is breaking the contacts to the timer motor, it will make the contacts to the heating element. So as long as the wash delay is in progress, heat will be on.

Has anyone tried this or can anyone think of a simpler method?