Rosalie's No Suds Detergent

[jetcone]

@Kevin

Yes I am! And if you want some then you can help me get it into the hands of your reporter friend so he can blab it out the WSJ for some exposure!!

 

[badgerdx]

This is a very interesting thread. I feel like the only one without an advanced chemistry degree.

I have one thought of fragrance. The ONE thing that Mrs. Meyers cleansers (which I think don't work at all) does well, is fragrance. AFTER I clean with the comet and bon ami and tide etc etc... I go over everything with Mrs. Meyers Basil... for the sent. Just my 2 cents worth.

 

[electron1100]

Results Please

So Jon

Are we gonna see a pair of your "used" underpants before and after a curry

 

[foraloysius]

Without OBA's and bleach his tighty whities will be dingy very soon! lol

 

[jetcone]

Wrong Louis

My whiteys are brilliant after a year and half of Rosalie's. And lucky me I have the ability to test it in 60 years worth of machines so its had its run through evry kind of machine!

That's a myth you need OBA's and did you know the molecule actually bonds to your skin for years???

I would never include OBA's in my formula.

Badgerdx we did a lot of testing with Mrs. Meyers, it doesn't work well and sudses like crazy in a HE3T machine. But they do have their scents DOWN pat! I agree.

 

[foraloysius]

Sounds interesting! I can't wait to try it. You also said no bleach, does that mean there is no oxygen bleach in it either?

 

[mrboilwash]

It seems to me that some of the best colour detergents can keep whites much whiter after repeated washings than the worst "normal" detergents with bleaching and OBA`s if dirt redepositing does not work well.
Oxygen bleach is certainly good to improve laundry hygiene at lower temperatures and to tackle certain stains but in my opinion totally overrated for keeping whites white.
Well done to keep those nasty OBA`s out of the formula !

 

[electron1100]

My whiteys are brilliant

Hmmmmm

 

[pulsator]

Woo hoo!!! Sign me up!!!! One of my biggest pet peeves with washing machines is their rinsing ability! I always wondered how the wash could be totally suds free and then the rinse has an inch of suds! 

 

This is totally awesome!!!!

 

[jetcone]

Gary

where the hell did you get that picture??
Excellent Dude!

 

[jetcone]

Yes there is no oxygen

bleach either.

Jamie you're on!

 

[stan]

want to hear more

about the OBAs bonding to the skin ?? Or tell me where to research!

 

[jetcone]

I read about it wayback

several years ago in the GardenWeb and in several European magazines regarding wanting to ban them in detergents.

 

[stan]

Can't seem to

find anything bad on the net? We are talking about OxyClean types of additives right?? (OBAs)

 

[foraloysius]

No, you should search for optical brighteners.

 

[jetcone]

Stan See "E. Smulders"

"Laundry Detergents" Pub Wiley-Vch. Verlag GmbH, Weinheim 2002.

The chemicals of the OBA's are all based on anionic diaminostilbene and distyrylbiphenyl derivatives.
"They do not biodegrade easily in primary digesters as they have a high affinity for textile fibers and sewage sludges" But I have seen text speaking of high affinity for skin molecules as well.

 

[bajaespuma]

If you want to know what old Dash smelled like, get a box of original Tide with Bleach and take a whiff. When Tide with Bleach came out, P&G simply pulled the card for the old Dash formula, added some O3 and blue speckles, IMHO. This was before the advent of  "HE" detergents and I noticed immediately that it had what P & G used to call "controlled sudsing". They even promoted it back then on a product card they sent me as being a low-sudsing detergent. I was using a Filter-Flo back then and they always need low sudsing deterents. I'll try to find that card but don't hold your breaths.It's still my favorite detergent, I want to try Persil but I'm afraid, if I like it, it's too expensive for someone like me who's spending over 9K a year on health insurance.

 

[tomturbomatic]

I think that somewhere I have my last box of Dash unopened in a zip lock bag. I will do some looking.

 

[mrboilwash]

OBAs may even affect our sex lifes negatively

On page #4 "Hormone-like effects"

http://www.bfr.bund.de/cm/349/stilbene_derivatives.pdf

 

[jetcone]

Eeuuuw Stefan

thank you. I know I would never use them. They just mask a problem anyway. Either your product CLEANS or it doesn't!

Good luck Tom let us know what you find. Baja will check out the powdered formula Tide w/Bleach today!
I know it can't be identical to Dash but I bet it doesn't fall far from the tree. The main ingredient in DASH was HYFAC457- hydrogenated fish oils & fats which are no longer made by BASF.