Russia Removing Foreign Detergents from Store Shelves

[tomturbomatic]

After destroying flowers and dairy products from the Netherlands in light of the Netherlands' latest inquiries into the plane downed over the Ukraine, Russia is purging grocery shelves of foreign detergents from P&G, Colgate-Palmolive and other well-known manufacturers saying that they contain dangerous levels of toxic chemicals.

Here is most of the text from MSN in case the link does not work for some:

MOSCOW — Russian authorities have begun to remove foreign brands of detergent and washing powder from stores, claiming that they pose health risks.

The Consumer Protection Agency said in a statement on Tuesday that recent inspections of selected goods by top foreign brands such as Colgate-Palmolive and Procter & Gamble have found high levels of toxic ingredients.

Moscow extended its ban earlier this month on selected food imports from the EU and other countries. Russia, however, has not banned the imports of detergent and washing liquid and most of the producers mentioned by the agency have production facilities in Russia.

You have to wonder what kind of duties a Consumer Protection Agency in Russia would have. The last paragraph is the strangest. With production agencies in country, could this be a sign of internal terrorism or government-sponsored sabotage?

MSN

 

[washer111]

And they think a huge multinational like P&G, Colgate-Palmolive etc are really going to care about loosing these sales? I'm sure plenty of people, myself included, will be telling them to "think on." The majority of people don't care an iota about what the Russians think anymore.

I really think they have humiliated themselves in the public eye. 

 

 

 

[iheartmaytag]

Toxic ingredients

I knew someone would eventually ban those strong fragrances as toxic.

Sounds like the old Russian Propaganda mill is still at work.
I can see the headlines. "April Fresh Downy made from Nuclear Waste."
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[firedome]

It's all political...

funny isn't it how all of a sudden these products long on sale there are all of a sudden "toxic"!

 

[dixan]

"And they think a huge multinational like P&G, Colgate-Palmolive etc are really going to care about loosing these sales?"

Of course they are going to care, washer111! Russia is a huge market. Multinational companies will loose a lot of money.
That's what Putin wants. This is an answer to the EU's sanctions against Russia.

 

[warmsecondrinse]

"High levels of toxic ingredients"? "Health risks"?

What ingredients? Are these new ones or long-standing ones now at higher levels? What is the threshold for toxicity?

What precisely are the risks? What are the mechanics of the posing of said risks?

Colgate and Proctor haven't responded. I'd love to read the information they've received. One would hope it'd be rather more detailed.

Jim

 

[Practigal]

Awwww play along with them. Tout that party line. Be stupid and agree that everything Putin and the other oligarchs say is correct and true....then buy their soap.
Any soap can be a dangerous chemical...
Why is it that so much of what passes for politics and religion these days requires that you check your brain at the door (and leave your heart behind as well)?

 

[tomturbomatic]

The lies and political chicanery are as transparent as ALL Free and Clear. In the news, the price of oil keeps sinking lower and lower while new natural gas pipelines are being built from newly discovered fields reducing Russia's monopoly as the energy supplier to European countries along with the money that keeps the Russian economy going.
Tant pis for a hate-filled nation with a hate-filled ruler.

 

[washman]

hmmm

NYET!

 

[dixan]

Hate-filled ruler - yes, hate-filled nation - absolutely not.
Can I call American nation "hate-filled" just because your politicians started number of wars?

 

[warmsecondrinse]

I haven't followed up since the announcement of a success initial test of part I, but Poland and other border countries have been revamping their gas pipeline system to function normally in the event Russia stops selling/supplying gas.

Good point, Dixan. However, Putin, et el. keep fueling Americans' negative stereotypes about Russia so someone in their government clearly wants Americans to view Russia as a hate-filled nation.

Disclaimer: As I've said before, I was a Soviet Studies major as a undergrad student and studied Russian for 7 years I also have family living in countries that were behind the former Iron Curtain. Therefore I often interpret news from that part of the world rather differently than other people do.

Jim

 

[dixan]

Everything is propaganda. Russian propaganda, American propaganda, EU propaganda... It's all about the money - oil, gas, etc.
People have to stop believing in everything and start reading, understating and thinking. Otherwise our future as a humanity is not very bright.
Russians are not hate-filled. They are one of the nicest people I know. However, I don't understand their love to Putin. Nations have lessons to learn. Russians didn't learn theirs. They started with dictatorship and ended with dictatorship.

 

[jerrod6]

Probably more due to the financial sanctions US and EU have imposed on Russia. So their response is to try to limit imports from these countries.  It is also an attempt to keep what money they have circulating within their own country.

 

[iheartmaytag]

Diaxan

I guess you must be more intune to the world politics more than the rest of us.
Which wars specifically did the U.S. Politicians "start"?

Are you going back all the way in our short history where we started the Revolutionary war. Yea, we started that one. You get one for $200

Civil war? Doesn't count didn't involve you. But, yea we started it. U.S. Wars for $400

World War 1? That one started in 1914, U.S. involvement didn't begin until 1917. did we start that one and then stand back and watch? Buzz-Buzz -$600

World War II? I think we stayed out of that one and were criticized by the world for not getting involved. Once we were forced into the fight, I believe it had something to do with an unprovoked attack at Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, we went in to win--and we did. Buzz-Buzz -$800

Korean War? Did we start that one? Yea, we did in an almost Whoops moment. You are still in the negative but now only down -$400

Cold War? Now come on it takes two. We are going to pretend no one answered you are still -$400

Vietnam? Ok give you a partial on that one as we should probable have stayed out, but, See Cold war above. Still at -$400

Desert Storm--Oil driven, you get a point. Did we start it? Leaving that one to Alex Trebeck in final Jeopardy.

Lets lump these as they are connected:
War on Iraq--Totally manufactured, but could be argued interconnected. I am sure GW will find the WMD someday.

War on Terrorism.
Did we start that one? September 11, 2001 we were just sitting quietly when some planes started crashing into things in New York and Washington. So an unprovoked attack again. Did we start that?

So maybe we might be war mongers, but tell me exactly what do the pacifist do for world peace rather than sit back and criticize others? Looking at the Jeopardy questions above does it not appear that many benefited from our war making? of course if there had not been so many chicken dookie attacks we may not have had to "start" so many wars.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program.
Join us next time for Double Jeopardy.

Yes, I do believe it is propaganda to state that a U.S. Made detergent has Toxic ingredients. Whats the quickest way to get someone to not use a product. Tell them it is toxic. Propaganda.

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[dixan]

I apologize. "Started" was not the right word here. Maybe "involved" was more appropriate. Once again, I am sorry.
But I just don't accept someone to call a whole nation "hate-filled" just because of several crazy politicians.

To the point.
I just read this article. Sorry, it's in Russian.
http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2795660

I cannot translate it, use google translate, but the removed products are:
- Vernel Spring freshness softener, Persil Expert Sensitiv powder and Pemos for children (Henkel, all made in Perm and Engels in Russia);
- Fairy Platinum (Procter & Gamble, made in Czech Republic);
- liquid soap Palmolive Natural intensive moisturizing with Olive oil and moisturizing milk (Colgate-Palmolive, Turkey);
- the German agent for cleaning and floor care Emsal (Werner & Mertz GmbH);
- UniCUM Floor cleaner universal SPA, Luxus Professional Clean parquet floor (ESP-Contract GmbH, Moscow region);
- the only one US product is universal antibacterial cleanser for all types of surfaces Formula 409 (The Clorox Company, USA).

Consumer Protection Agency in Russia says that after laboratory tests "part of the product does not meet the regulatory requirements of the sanitary-chemical and toxicological safety parameters".

That's it. This is the information. Everything else written here are speculations.

 

[mattl]

Well Putin destroyed lots of meat and cheese that was imported simply due to the crackdown and boycott from the west. No reason to believe this is anything more than him posturing.

 

[foraloysius]

The boycot of Dutch products didn't lead to a economical disaster fortunately. I believe it was only 0.1 or 0.2% of our total export. Hatred against foreigners is growing in Russia, some Dutch people working in Russia have experienced this. They had to give up their positions they held for quite a long time.

The Netherlands will persist in finding out what really happened with that plane. Too many people knew victims of that incident.

 

[iheartmaytag]

they are correct on a technicality

Some in the U.S. Are trying to have some of the anti-bacterial substances removed, specifically Triclosan. In larger doses it's bug poison.

Chlorine Bleach can be considered toxic.

Give the devil it's dues, and they may have some reasoning behind their actions. I do believe Jamie and Adam would call it Plausible. As said before, any cleaning product can be considered toxic. The only thing begin is water, and in some places that's toxic.

 

[dixan]

Yes, it is possible, but there are no proofs.
Don't believe. Read all possible sources of information and then draw conclusions.