mr-maytag
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I just ran across this Speed Queen solid tub automatic and thought someone might be interested.
Speed Queen Solid Tub in Elk Mound, Wis.
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Inside tub
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tub shot
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Knobs
knobs
knobs
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one last
wash selector
wash selector
I've got a message out to the seller. Fingers crossed!
philr
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Nice!
I wish I could find one like that locally!
I wish I could find one like that locally!
killer find.....and it lights too!....
whats not to love!
whats not to love!
Solid Tubbing
Swestoyz-----This model is within a year or so of my 74, and it's a notch or two up with 2 speeds and the numerous temps and the larger stainless steel tub! Congratulations? Jealousy? Oh, both I guess. And it lights up, many many notches up from mine.
From what I've been told, this model and mine are lucky to be the time fill models, as the reservoir/level switch added lots of pieces/parts to wear and malfunction. And it's the revering motor design, often believed to have fewer problems. Best of luck getting it, they are fun and potent machines, great rinsing, and all the different ways the solid tub perform its functions are a fun change from perf tub designs we see so often.
Keep us posted and post pics for sure! Had it been closer and I didn't already have a great machine from Speed Queen, I'd go for it in a second.
Swestoyz-----This model is within a year or so of my 74, and it's a notch or two up with 2 speeds and the numerous temps and the larger stainless steel tub! Congratulations? Jealousy? Oh, both I guess. And it lights up, many many notches up from mine.
From what I've been told, this model and mine are lucky to be the time fill models, as the reservoir/level switch added lots of pieces/parts to wear and malfunction. And it's the revering motor design, often believed to have fewer problems. Best of luck getting it, they are fun and potent machines, great rinsing, and all the different ways the solid tub perform its functions are a fun change from perf tub designs we see so often.
Keep us posted and post pics for sure! Had it been closer and I didn't already have a great machine from Speed Queen, I'd go for it in a second.
ovrphil
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I could search the archives, but maybe someone could help me avoid the chase in time and tell me what is the aura of attraction with solid tubs? Do these have specific and highly regarded values that are not made anymore due to cost savings and /or ? other reasons? I've seen people here express interest in solid tubs and...would like to hear opinions yay/nay or whatever grinds your coffee.
Thanks!
Phil
Thanks!
Phil
SO…is this fluid drive or the later reversible transmission?
Solid Tubs
I only have solid tub experience with SQ 1974 or 73 model, other here will have far more info: My main fun with them is they are SO DIFFERENT than all the perf tubs, it's plain good fun for a real washer hobbyist to see the differences.
1) Time fill instead of pressure switch----some guesswork and water line pressure is involved, there's a learning curve.
2)Overflow rinsing--SQ and many others---overflow near the end of the wash cycle, lifting suds and dirt up and out of the tub while it agitates. Also it dilutes the wash water and you're half-rinsed before it spins out the first time.
3) Spin-out------no holes for slow draining, no 3 minutes to drain a tub. The soild tub spins out into the outer tub in maybe 20 seconds, then it's just up to the pump to catch up, but the clothes are already damp dry. My GE and Maytag and 1-18 all have tons of water for one to three minutes, straining thru the washed clothes, leaving some dirt behind.
4)Agitated rinse overflow cycle----SQ and maybe more--agitation starts for rinse when the water level is maybe 85%, then continues while more water helps overflow the tub. Rinsing is FANTASTIC. Then with no excess water it continues to agitate for 2 minutes, then again more overflow water enters the tub for more lint/dirt/floaters to rinse over the side while agitating.
5)Some or all that excess water is made up for by the fact there's no outer tub to fill. Think of how much space GE and Norge have in the outer tub, excess water beyond what's necessary for cleaning/agitation/turnover. In a solid tub, all the water is for clothes, not to fill empty space between the wash basket and outer tub.
6)Great rinsing
7) Most important for me, it's simply a different machine, different operations, diffferent behavior than perforated tubs. Good clean fun for a hobbyist, just like a hobbyist also needs to experience a Hoover Twinnie and an Easy Spindrier a few times. And a good old Maytag wringer or Speed Queen wringer. Fun change of pace.
Of the major US brands, Neither Maytag nor WP/Kenmore ever made a solid tub. GE switched from solid to perf some time in the mid 60's, Frigidaire in 70 or 71, so Speed Queen, with solid tubs thru maybe 76 or 77??? was the last major manufacturer to stick with what had been a 40's-50's technology. Which at times makes it easier to find this exact make of solid tub than others.
As I said, my solid tub experience is limited to SQ 73 model. Some other makes did overflow without agitation, some did pressure fill with the first cup or so of overflow water kicking off the valves. Some do suds saving, etc. Hopefully other will chime in with other bransd of solid tubs.
I only have solid tub experience with SQ 1974 or 73 model, other here will have far more info: My main fun with them is they are SO DIFFERENT than all the perf tubs, it's plain good fun for a real washer hobbyist to see the differences.
1) Time fill instead of pressure switch----some guesswork and water line pressure is involved, there's a learning curve.
2)Overflow rinsing--SQ and many others---overflow near the end of the wash cycle, lifting suds and dirt up and out of the tub while it agitates. Also it dilutes the wash water and you're half-rinsed before it spins out the first time.
3) Spin-out------no holes for slow draining, no 3 minutes to drain a tub. The soild tub spins out into the outer tub in maybe 20 seconds, then it's just up to the pump to catch up, but the clothes are already damp dry. My GE and Maytag and 1-18 all have tons of water for one to three minutes, straining thru the washed clothes, leaving some dirt behind.
4)Agitated rinse overflow cycle----SQ and maybe more--agitation starts for rinse when the water level is maybe 85%, then continues while more water helps overflow the tub. Rinsing is FANTASTIC. Then with no excess water it continues to agitate for 2 minutes, then again more overflow water enters the tub for more lint/dirt/floaters to rinse over the side while agitating.
5)Some or all that excess water is made up for by the fact there's no outer tub to fill. Think of how much space GE and Norge have in the outer tub, excess water beyond what's necessary for cleaning/agitation/turnover. In a solid tub, all the water is for clothes, not to fill empty space between the wash basket and outer tub.
6)Great rinsing
7) Most important for me, it's simply a different machine, different operations, diffferent behavior than perforated tubs. Good clean fun for a hobbyist, just like a hobbyist also needs to experience a Hoover Twinnie and an Easy Spindrier a few times. And a good old Maytag wringer or Speed Queen wringer. Fun change of pace.
Of the major US brands, Neither Maytag nor WP/Kenmore ever made a solid tub. GE switched from solid to perf some time in the mid 60's, Frigidaire in 70 or 71, so Speed Queen, with solid tubs thru maybe 76 or 77??? was the last major manufacturer to stick with what had been a 40's-50's technology. Which at times makes it easier to find this exact make of solid tub than others.
As I said, my solid tub experience is limited to SQ 73 model. Some other makes did overflow without agitation, some did pressure fill with the first cup or so of overflow water kicking off the valves. Some do suds saving, etc. Hopefully other will chime in with other bransd of solid tubs.
fluid drive
I beleive fluid drive was on the spin cycle for all SQ, regardless of whether it is the solenoid-release single direction motor or the later bi-direction, pausing, no-solenioid models.
I beleive fluid drive was on the spin cycle for all SQ, regardless of whether it is the solenoid-release single direction motor or the later bi-direction, pausing, no-solenioid models.
ovrphil
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solid tubs explained
Akronman: ...that was interesting and way more info than I would expect. But it gives me way more perspective than before...really interesting, thank you very much, Mark!
Akronman: ...that was interesting and way more info than I would expect. But it gives me way more perspective than before...really interesting, thank you very much, Mark!
Yeah, the solid-tub description describes ALL solid tubs. SQ just kept the solid-tub about 5 years longer than everyone else.
philr
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Mark,
Do you know exactly when Speed Queen stopped to make solid tub washers? Frigidaire stopped to make their solid tub Agi-Tubs when they were sold to WCI in 1979 and I thought SQ stopped at about the same time. Was it that much later?
Do you know exactly when Speed Queen stopped to make solid tub washers? Frigidaire stopped to make their solid tub Agi-Tubs when they were sold to WCI in 1979 and I thought SQ stopped at about the same time. Was it that much later?
At the home show in 1980, I saw the perforated basket Speed Queen washer for the first time so it was about the same time as the WCI-Frigidaire takeover. They were the last American manufacturer to make a full-size solid-tub washer. Hotpoint discontinued their solid-tub washer around 1974.
All through the 70's SQ always took a rather severe hit in the ratings for capacity and performance of their solid tub washers and those ratings only ever got marginally better with their perforated tub machines.
Reliability of the solid-tub reversing motor design was pretty abysmal overall. With the cheapening of materials, thinner steel, etc., longevity suffered badly, and it honestly wasn't that great for SQ before. They had problems with the shifting collar, often they would agitate and spin at the same time, I've had a couple of those over the years. Similar to Norge and a few other brands, if you got one that worked, they would run reliably and last for a long time, like the one for sale.
I believe SQ never used the reversing motor design in their commercial machines which is a good indicator of what the company thought of the design.
All through the 70's SQ always took a rather severe hit in the ratings for capacity and performance of their solid tub washers and those ratings only ever got marginally better with their perforated tub machines.
Reliability of the solid-tub reversing motor design was pretty abysmal overall. With the cheapening of materials, thinner steel, etc., longevity suffered badly, and it honestly wasn't that great for SQ before. They had problems with the shifting collar, often they would agitate and spin at the same time, I've had a couple of those over the years. Similar to Norge and a few other brands, if you got one that worked, they would run reliably and last for a long time, like the one for sale.
I believe SQ never used the reversing motor design in their commercial machines which is a good indicator of what the company thought of the design.
Answering ......
Phil----I forgot that Frigidaire made that plastic solid agi-tub model, though their full-sized machines switched to perf around 70.
As for Speed Queen, I have a 1975 catalog from Ephemera that is all solid tubs, not sure when they made the switch after that.
Phil----I forgot that Frigidaire made that plastic solid agi-tub model, though their full-sized machines switched to perf around 70.
As for Speed Queen, I have a 1975 catalog from Ephemera that is all solid tubs, not sure when they made the switch after that.
