The way I load our diswasher

[lavamat78800]

Well, I like mine too.
But sometimes it uses too few water, also at that cycle when theses photos were taken, I notice it when coffeepowder is all over the dishes.
The fan sometimes is making bizarre noises, hopefully it doesn´t break.
Before that dishwasher I had a 24 year old by AEG with continious problems too, it really washed bad

 

[foraloysius]

My fan never made weird noises, it just missed the sound it made sometime.

I'll stick with this dishwasher as long as it works, but after that I'll try a different brand. Perhaps Bosch/Siemens or if I have the money a Miele.

 

[lavamat78800]

I´m a bit amazed of my AEG it runs in average 1,5 times per day and works perfectly, I know many people who have problems with AEG after 5 years.
If mine would break I would test Fagor or Bosch/Siemens, I really like VarioSpeed because some new diswashers need 135 min for an ECO-cycle, thats somehow too much time!
Fagors are very quick too, they only need 75 min for an intensive cycle.

 

[foraloysius]

Time is not a problem for me, I use mine only every 2 or 3 days. Aren't the cheaper Bosch/Siemens machines Fagor machines in disguise anyway?

 

[lavamat78800]

I don´t really understand what you mean??
Do you think that Fagor are made by Bosch/Siemens?

 

[foraloysius]

No, the other way around. The cheaper Bosch/Siemens machines are made by Fagor IIRC.

 

[lavamat78800]

Well, I think you´re right!
Fagor has his manifacture in Spania, the cheaper Bosch´s/Siemens´s are produced in Spania too.
Does anybody know more about Fagor?

 

[foraloysius]

Especially for you, here's the link to the German website.

http://www.fagor.com/de/pub/index.html

 

[lavamat78800]

Thanks, Louis!
I already have been studiing on this webite, but I wanted to get more information about quality etc.

 

[foraloysius]

I had a look at www.ciao.de, but there are no reviews yet I believe. I should have a closer look.

I noticed the new Bosch and Siemens toploaders are also built by Fagor. I would love to play for a while with such a toploader.

 

[lavamat78800]

Yes, the toploaders by Bosch and Siemens are bulit by Fagor too.
The cheaper frontloaders are produced in Poland.

 

[foraloysius]

Do you know who builts the frontloaders?

 

[lavamat78800]

No, I don´t know who builts them, but the cheaper ones are built in Poland
The Bosch wit 10 kg capacity is built in the USA.
All Bosch top of range washers are built by themselves here in Germany.

 

[foraloysius]

I've seen the Bosch 10kg machine overhere a few times too. But what I find really silly is that they don't sell the dryer here. I had a look at the German Bosch website and it isn't there either. I wonder what the reason behind that is, if you have such an enormous washer (according to European standards) you probably want a matching dryer as well. I would hate to divide that load in two to get my laundry dried in a dryer that doesn't match the capacity of the washer. Or line dry a big load like that...