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Oh My Dears!

From the ladies who lunch, to the ones who meet themselves at the schools, it is ALL one hears on the streets (happen to live not very far from Mr. Spitzer's town address), and for a Monday, this tony part of Manhattan is buzzing. Suppose one will hear more after the market closes and the men get home from their offices. Have a hairdresser's appointment later this week, and am sure it will be all anyone is speaking about.

Mr. Spitzer has made quite name for himself wagging is finger and telling others to do this, that and the other; hounding Mr. Hevesi out of office and such, well THIS is just a nice lovely little scandal.

Someone pour Launderess a wee drinky!

L.
 
Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory.

OK, I get sick of the whole double-moral thing. A working girl offers a hell of a lot more to society than many "honorable" professions. Politician being one.
But still - you have to just assume that the Republicans are tailing every single high profile Democrat these days, just looking for dirt (which rule of magik is that? "like seeks like"?).
And he didn't even make them work for it.
Sigh.
On the other hand, at least it popped now and not in a few weeks. He resigns, the usual christianists pontificate, in two weeks it's all forgotten. Now might be a good time to ask that Senator from Virginia for his opinion on this topic. What was his name again? No, not Mr. Tap-happy-McPants, the other one...no not him, he was diddling pages,,,oh, right - Vitter. There have been so many the last years, it's hard to keep track.
What is the Republican policy on adultery? You can cheat on your wife, get caught and all is forgiven as long as it was, one, with a woman and two, you have "got right with God" by talking to a prominent christianist TV preacher, who, for a minor fee (shipping and handling) will testify you tripped and fell on her. Oh, and, three, you are a Republican.
Sheesh.
 
Well, in this day and age of glass houses (and the internet) we had all better learn how to urinate elegantly. It ALL comes out in the wash.

In the meantime, I'll bet I know what one candidate has in mind to keep her "fellow" (pun intended) polititicans in-line

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What really makes me mad

is that they then always drag their poor wives out to embarrass them in front of the whole world.
"Gee, sweetums - I just got caught diddling someone else, so please come stand next to me and pretend you forgive me, what an upright christianist I am, etc."
I would applaud any of those women in an instant if they marched up to the podium, smiled for the camera, reached into their big satchel purses, took out some prints and said:
"And wait until you see the rest of the dirt I have on this mangy cur."
Not that European politicians are one bit less scum-baggy.
(Steve, that pic is worth a thousand words. When they kick you out of the country, you can come live with us.)
 
I did not have sexual relations with that woman,

All my family are still in Arkansas...
Heavens above, I just realized (never said I was bright)what this is going to do to Clinton.
Scheiße!
 
Yeah, well, Toggles, dear...

your enemies say more about who you are than anyone else. But, gosh and golly gee willikers - with (party) friends like that, who needs enemies?
 
Oh my I will certainly take what Rumsfeld is having. My gawd I would never leave the house! It certainly would be Knees to Nipples time with that one!
 
Nah, I'll take a pass

There is some filth which just never washes off. No matter how clean you try to keep your firehose.
Besides, in that case it was the other way around - it was the troops who got...well, guess I need to watch my language or the delicate souls will get the vapors.
Then we'll get to hear how shocked they are, just shocked I tell you...
Why is prostitution illegal in the first place? Never could get my head around that one.
 
A Vodka Stinger for the Laundresss, my good man.

"Another reason not to move, Another Vodka Stinger.... Ahhhh'll Drink to that!"
 
Just for the record, Republicans are not "tailing" anyone.

Mr. Spitzer's misconduct came to light via a wiretap of an escort service that was busted last week in New York. It went by the name of "Emperor" or some such and supplied high end "escorts" for men in Washington DC, London, Paris, New York, and other cities.

Four persons were arrested last week in connection with running the service, and this is scandal is coming to light in view of information gathered from that investigation.

L.
 
For what its worth, heres my take, what's yours?

How sad is all this? Wow, I can't wait to see the headline on tomorrows issue of that rag the New York Post lol.

The saddest part of the whole thing is once again we look like total fools to the rest of the educated and intellectual parts of the world, because once again its all about SEX. Granted Elliot was suppose to be tough on crime, but I'm sorry Wall Street Insider Trading/Corruption and having sex with a prostitute in my book is like night and day. I've always had respect for Elliot because he seemed to be fair and he was on the gay communities side when it came to the marriage issue. I was so happy to see him elected.

Once again this is no ones business except between him and his wife. The fact that prostitution is illegal and not regulated and kept safe is another sad sad state of affairs that only a country made up of atheists and intellectuals can dream of living in. There's a reason why its called the "oldest profession in the world" and who honestly thinks some silly law making it illegal is going to stop what comes so naturally to so many. Please it ain't rocket science, good luck with that.

What would be totally fabulous right now is if Elliot's wife would get up there and say "oh god whatever people, I told him to please go have fun, be safe and I will too, then we came home, talked about it and went shopping for new furniture for the living room". That would be so cool and so 21st century living, but unfortunately most in this country aren't ready or willing or able to deal with reality so fairy tales will have to take precedent.

Sex sex sex sex sex, jeeze.
 
oh come on, dear. Fairy Tales rule!

You're right about that toggle especially when both Samantha and Jeannie were having SEX (not with each other mind you, they were on different networks).
 
I'm Sorry?

One: We none of us, and that includes the federal government knows what Mr.Spitzer did with the escort he arranged to have sent to Washington DC. All the wiretap gives is that Mr. Spitzer set up the meeting, for all we know the man could have sat there and read Proust in a corset while she tickled his feet. What the man did or did not do will come to light later, though one can make certian assumptions given the nature of work the agency provided, there is no acutal proof.

Two: Mr. Spitzer's woes are not just because of his liason with a known tart, but rather for a man who has built his reputation on some rather high morals, and preaching them to others, he should have cleaned up his own back garden before wagging is finger at others. One heard the trading floor on Wall Street erupted into cheers this afternoon when the story broke and was flashed upon screens. Mr. Spitzer as then attorney general lead a nasty and morally high grounded attack on Wall Street firms, so now it rather is a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

Mr. Spitzer also forced out of office Mr. Alan Hevesi, for some minor infraction that probably more than half of those in elected office within NYS are guilty of. This despite the man was re-elected by a vast majority even months after the story was played out. Mr. Spitzer hounded Mr. Hevesi with a zealous district attorney hand picked to do a hatchet job. It was made clear what was wanted was a felony conviction or guilty plea to the same, for with that Mr. Hevesi would be banned from holding elected office, sitting on a company board of directors, working as an accountant, or anything else of consequence; in short the aim was to break and ruin the man and his family, and Mr. Spitzer suceeded.

It was said at the time, Mr. Spitzer's fortunes were tied to Mr. Hevesi's and his is now quite true. For the same sword that the former used to slay the latters career, is the same one he shall have to fall upon.

One does not go around poking at Mr. Bruno and others in government on matters of ethics, and promising to "clean up Albany" on that point, if one's own house is in disorder.

It does not matter what one thinks of the laws regarding prostitution. The laws are on the books and Mr. Spitzer (as both a prosecutor and district attorney), made quite name for himself sending prostitutes and such away. So now we are to believe this is a one time dalliance?

Am for one gladly waiting for the morning newspapers, it may be the most interesting coverage in that media since 9/12/01.

Oh and by the way, took a walk to Mr. Spitzer's building, and as one would expect the area is mobbed by the media. Light up like Rockerfeller Center at Christmas, it must be horrible for those living in the building, indeed the area as getting in and out means going under the glare of cameras and lights.

L.
 
~Mr. Spitzer's woes are not just because of his liason with a known tart, but rather for a man who has built his reputation on * some rather high morals, and preaching them to others, he should have cleaned up his own back garden before wagging is finger at others.

*professing to

Hyprocrites are especially delicious to the homosexual community, in that we know very well what the rules are and the fairy tales that exist as to sexuality [Cleopatra is not the only one living on,in and near de-Nile].

But we also know the reality of what actually goes on, in that (American) society wants to believe we don't and should not exist. FEH! Our very survivial is predicated on cutting through the words and phony-ness and getting to the reality of the issue.

In a word, we tend to be generally very fine-tuned to recognizing bullshit; and any smoke-screen of anyone trying to cover his trail is extremely obvious to us. But that is just my ridiuculous personal opinion.

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Spitzer should resign if proven guilty~

"The Republicans are gonna make such hay with this".

Oh, Please...Like the Republican Party is stand bearer for what is moral and just. They have lost ALL credibility with the American public as a whole.

Let's not forget...........

Rep. Bob Ney (R)- Ohio
Rep. Curt Weldon (R)- Pennsylvania
Rep. Don Sherwood (R)- Pennsylvania
Rep. Mark Foley (R)- Florida
Rep. Rick Renzi (R)- Arizona
Rep. John Sweeney (R)- New York
Rep. Tom DeLay- (R) Texas
Rep. Duke Cunningham (R)- California
Sen. Conrad Burns- (R)- Montana
Sen. David Vitter- (R)- Louisiana
Sen. Larry Craig- (R)- Idaho
Sen. Ted Stevens- (R)- Alaska
I. Scooter Libby- (R)- Former Chief of Staff for Cheney.
Gov. John G Rowland (R)- Connecticut

All have either been accused, convicted or forced from office within the last 5 years due to scandal. Today's Republican party is a joke and American's have finally caught on. There is a reason the Democratic Party has outraised Republicans 3-1 during the primaries and my guess is they will continue to do so in the general election. People are FED up!

Runematic- Thanks so much for making me realize why I vote Democratic. To think I was actually considering backing McCain should Hillary not win the nomination. I think I am going to give Obama a second look. The Republican party does not deserve to retain power at any branch of the Federal Government, local government for that matter also.
They have to prove themselves all over again to the American public and guess what??
They have ONE person to thank for all their problems..His name is George W. Bush. ( The WORST President in American History)!
 
Quick Anastasia Beaverhausen, make a run for it!

~it must be horrible for those living in the building, indeed the area as getting in and out means going under the glare of cameras and lights.

The poor unfortunate dears may have to use the servants' service entrance. Or maybe they won't be able to go out to dinner as easily or get a delivery of same. Pity; they will have to ask their maid to make something for them or show them how to open a can or tuna.

*LOL* Who luv's ya baby? La vie est dur, n'est ce pas?
Just busting ovaries.

I don't give a rat's @$$ where he sticks it. But one should shut their damn mouth (ESPECIALLY AS A PUBLIC FIGURE) about the splinters in others' eyes when there is a log in their own.

Now is it me, or is that Jesus on the cross in the background with no judgement and nothing to say on the issue?

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Just So Everyone Knows

Read the newspapers tomorrow or Google for the full story. This is not an isolated event, and as details are released, it appears the escort agency busted last week in NY was an off shoot of an investigation into Mr. Spitzer.

You see, someone tipped off the IRS lastyear that Mr. Spitzer was moving large sums of money around. The IRS in turn notified the FBI because there was concerns that as public offical Mr. Spitzer was taking bribes or some other nasty business for an elected offical to be involved with. Through wiretaps and email/text "taps" it became clear where Mr. Spitzer's money was going, and why he was moving those funds.

Nearly everyone in NYC, and can assume much everywhere else of a certian income status, employs accountants to manage their financial affairs. Pay and other funds are deposited with said persons, and they in turn pay bills ranging from laundry to the servant's salaries, to taxes. Because they also prepare one's taxes, they have to account for where funds go. So if one requests say $10,000, they of course will provide, but an entry must be made as to where the funds are going. Being an elected offical, Mr. Spitzer's taxes would be released to NYS, another reason for his accountants to keep good books.

This explains the media reports of Mr. Spitzer having to go to banks and such to fund his dalliances. Funds probably were not taken from an account either Mrs. Spitzer or even the accountants were aware of. Mrs. Spitzer as well would probably have queried numerous withdrawals from any joint account for several thousand dollars on an ongoing basis. No man gives that kind of money to any woman he is not sleeping with, and Mr.Spitzer probably knew there wouldn't be away to explain.

This little affiar probably has been going on for along time, at least a year, who knows how much longer. Really is sad to think that at the same time the man was putting away girls for "escorting" he was also summoning them to provide the same services.

Oh yes, word is Mr. Spitzer will resign within the next few days, if not tomorrow.
 
Anastasia Beverhausen Is On The Case

Have some big dark sunglasses could lend Mrs. Spitzer, along with a nice big trench coat or even a fur. Then there are some scarves as well. Pity large hats with veils are no longer in fashion, or even widows weeds. *LOL*

It is his children and wife one really feels sorry for, especiall the children. They have school tomorrow (if they go), and it will be just too horrible for them to face things. How does one go from being at the top of the school's social order as the child of the highest man in the state, to having one's name dragged though a sorrid nasty scandal. It really is too bad.

Then there is the Spitzer name as well. Mr. Spitzer senior is a very powerful and wealthy real estate developer and property owner. Formally the highest honours were associated with that name due to young Mr. Spitzer, that is all but certainly all over now, as the name will be one of either execration or mirth depending upon which circle it is mentioned. Again, it really is too bad.
 
Laundress,

I agree with you about his family. They don't deserve the mud-raking and nastiness which they will be going through.
Especially not his poor wife.

That said, when I said "tailing", perhaps I used the wrong word. After the Federal Prosecutor scandals and the Governor Siegelman affair, it seems to me very realistic to assume that the Republicans would be out looking for any and every possible weakness.

Not saying there aren't Democrats with similar disgusting habits, just, not since Tricky Dicky and Co. has anything even come close to what has gone on since 2000.
To me, the only relevant question is, did he mis-use public funds for personal advantage? If, as appears (I haven't read the NY tabloids yet, I need that first morning pot of coffee to even tackle the NY-Times, much less turn on the screen wipers for the Post) to be the case, he really was 'only' paying for the lady's time, then the matter is between him and his wife.

Granted, the hypocrisy is pretty bad. But, gosh, he's a politician...you aren't dealing with a used car salesman here, so you mustn't expect too much.

By the by, here in Germany, our own politicians love to sell themselves as purer than the new-driven snow. Just in my province, Bavaria, over the last few years we have had the anti-gay, anti-protestant, anti-abortion, anti-single mother benefit, anti-immigrant, anti-you-name-it Minister of the Interior resign because she got caught diddling her State provided driver. Another ultra-super-Catholic Saint in the making divorced his mentally ill wife and left her for a much (much much much) younger woman after knocking her up. Then tried to have his now ex-wife denied her share of their considerable fortune.)
It's the same all over the world. We don't get so upset about these things here because we have other double morals, but let's face it. The louder someone protests how much he hates gays and prostitutes, the more likely he is to be speaking from copious experience in the matter.
 
Actually Mr. Spitzer is in trouble on several fronts:

First is a possible violation of the Mann Act, which makes transporting or causing the transportation of another person across state lines for a lewd or illegal purpose a felony.

Next, there is the problem of the funds he was shifting around to pay for his dalliances. Early reports are Mr. Spitzer could face some sort of money laundering or some such charges. No one has said where the funds were coming from to pay for these ladies, but if it was from accounts that were not his own personal accounts...

Finally there are the "sex" charges, which would be hard to prove unless one or any of the women involved testify under oath they engaged in relations with Mr. Spitzer in exchange for funds. This would be a long shot since the women would be confessing to a crime, so unless they are going to be offered some sort of immunity, there is no way to prove any thing on that score.

What is simply boils down to is public perception; you cannot have the highest man in New York State, arranging meetings with escorts, no matter who is paying.

Oh there is another problem for Mr. Spitzer, the New York Bar Association. Depending upon how all this plays out, they could bring charges against Mr. Spitzer which could result in him loosing his law license
 
I believe the most serious charge he faces could be

"structuring", that is, the purposeful manipulation of finances - even if each individual step of the way is legal - in order to conceal illegal activities.
That is one of those laws, similar to vagrancy or mis-use of the mails, which is there for prosecuting someone whose behavior is otherwise technically legal.
With all the problems the US faces, I wonder if this is really worth wasting time on. Of course, those wonderful, neutral, only interested in justice feds have been careful to release transcripts detailing that he insisted on "unsafe" practices and was a "difficult" client.
If he were a Republican, all he'd have to do is claim he'd "found Jesus" and all would be forgiven. See Vitter, for example.
Personally, I like many of his ideas, but his arrogance and "holier-than-thou" persecution (and I do mean persecution,not prosecution) of prostitutes in the past is a big part of this.
Of course folks are happy to see him get his comeuppance, but you have to ask yourself whether it isn't time to rethink priorities.
 
We he was smart enough to know he has to pay for it.

Launderess,

I also feel for the family, wife and children of Mr. Spitzer. Sadly, they will have to pay a price and suffer terribly for daddy's activitites.

People will never learn. The world is round; what you give you get.

If the Lawd can forgive all (but suicide) who in hell, and under what authority, are we to judge?
 
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