Twice the Performance

[mixfinder]

Recently I saw an ebay video of an Australian Sunbeam handmixer on a stand. I was surprised at how fast it took off and the amount of speed and sound that emminated. It's American counterpart on 110 starts very slow and needs to warm up before it can be used on low and medium speeds. Do Australian and English Sunbeams have more power because of operating at 220. Do they sound the same as comparable American models?

 

[mixfinder]

I'll Take One, Please

Nice combo of the model 12 and Vista styling.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ANTIQUE-SUNBE...ome_Garden_Kitchen_Mixers&hash=item45f3bd99ce

 

[mixfinder]

My Own Pathology

I like things in sets and items that match. I am very attracted to the styling but wish the base matched the color of the handle and dial. I am pretty sure Jeff has one in his collection with a black handle.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SUNBEAM-MIXMA...ome_Garden_Kitchen_Mixers&hash=item41500dd32b

 

[mixfinder]

Feeling Badly

When I saw this version of the 10, 11 and 12 combined it felt like the Brits and Australians were cheated on a fully modern model of the latest mixer.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/vintage-sunb...tem&pt=AU_Home_Appliances&hash=item2a083a403d

 

[mixfinder]

Nice Blender

I wish more of the blender attachments had been sold in America with the white lid. I have even seen a model with plastic container and a handle. Combined with the white lid and pouring cap it looks great. The style and shape of the blender was sold as a free standing model for a short while. Petek has one and they are amazing blenders. I am constantly on the prowl to find one.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sunbeam-mixer...ome_Garden_Kitchen_Mixers&hash=item3f00f572ac

 

[vacbear58]

Mixmasters

Kelly,
When new, the handle and mixfinder dial would have been the same colour as the base, its only with time that the colour changes - and it has happened to every single one of these mixmasters I have ever seen. And yes it has also been seen in black too, although I do not recall it being on sale in that colour here.

We did not have the vista series here, this model (X24 I think) ran from about 1962 until the late 1960s when it seemed to disappear for five or six years. It re-emerged in the mid 1970s - the same styling (at least) as the mixer you use in your current cookie thread, although ironically in a similar colourway to the X24. These models seem to be rare, although shortly after we had the Sunbeam badged Oster Kitchen Center, so it may not have been around that long. The Mixmater popped up again in the 1990s finally in chrome and black (same styling as the 1970s version though) and stainless bowls.

For a quite period of time the models 12 (always Black/white, no pastels and no chrome) and 24 ran side by side so this 12 might be a later version. I dont recall the "hybrid" version being on sale here (Australia had some exclusive models) and indeed we do not appear to have had the model 11 either, it went straight from model 10 to 12

Al

 

[mixguy]

Dough "Hooks" for Mixmasters

In the US spiral beaters for mixing dough were first offered around 1975. There were available in in England long before.

Anyone care to comment or speculate?

 

[vacbear58]

Dough Hooks

I am pretty sure we had dough hooks with the X24, although they were not spirals, but two, somewhat elongated, hooks. There was like a rectangular piece of white plastic which went across at the top. Whether this was just to keep dough from travelling up to the beater attachement points or whether it served some other purpose, I dont know.
Al

 

[maytagbear]

Oh, that's right....

Dough hooks. I think I'd be afraid to knead yeast bread dough in a Mixmaster.

I only had one for a short time, my Grandmother's, and it was rather old when she gave it to me. It was the model made around WW II...with the horizontal ventilation slits on the front. I used the citrus juicer more than the mixer itself. By that time, I had my K45.......

However, I am thinking about getting the new one in August, (I'll have some extra money)even though I have heard very bad things and very good things about it. I'd like to do my own compare/contrast with cakes...as opposed to my KitchenAid stand mixer, and my KA hand mixer.

Lawrence/Maytagbear

 

[mixfinder]

Dough Hooks

Through out Europe hand mixers had dough hook offerings which more resembled a cork screw. Sunbeam used the the twisted beater design which was absolutely phenominal at mixing the dough. If you insert the Sunbeam hooks in the reverse position
it pulls the dough directly up the shaft and over the front of the mixer. Used on the stand the motor head rides above the dough ball and comes crashing down which broke the turntable loose from the spindle so the bowl would sit wonky and no longer rotate. I use them off the stand and the hooks fit in every model from 3 through 11. The 12 needs to the have the gear reset or the hooks bang against each together. GE made a version of the same but left more room between the hooks to relive motor stress.

 

[ronhic]

I have never seen dough hooks used on any Australian 9, 12, 24 or MXF, MXG mixmaster or come with one when sold.

I have a new MX in box and can tell you they didn't come with them either.

...as for hybrids, well Sunbeam Australia certainly did that. We received the American 11 as the 12A (10 speed) and then the American 12 as a 12A with the 'the eyebrow' 10 speed and then 12 speed....

Then came the Vista (24A)....

 

[mixfinder]

The Classic Queen

Here is one of the lovliest production models Sunbeam ever made. I wish we could have had them here. This is like the one Jeff has in his collection. (I miss Jeff terribly)

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Sunbeam-Vint...t=AU_Homeware_Kitchenware&hash=item43a019327f

 

[mixfinder]

An Example

Here is an example of the style of dough hooks most often offered in European and Australian mixers.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Philips-Food...tem&pt=AU_Home_Appliances&hash=item1c135ac5bc

 

[ronhic]

mmmmmm

....I've never been fond of the A24 'Vista' style model....

Give me a 'round front' or 'eyebrow' A12 or an MXF/MXG anyday...

 

[mixguy]

Dough mixing technique

Using the mixmaster in mixing dough you are warned the mixer will not act the same as when mixing cake batter. The booklet warns of what Kelly describes of the mixer riding up and down on the dough once it forms a ball. Users are warned to not leave the mixer unattended to prevent the damage Kelly described. CU tested mixers having dough hooks making the white bread recipe provided with the mixer. Sunbeam's Deluxe mixmaster was down rated due to so much assistance needed by the user. During CU testing the mixer moved on the counter. GEs mixer instructs the user to shift the bowl to the small bowl postion to complete kneading, its spiral hooks along with the lock down of the motor and are not as closely spaced as the Sunbeam's dough hooks. Sunbeam created the Power Plus series to comptete with the superior mixing ability of the Kitchenaid food preparers. That mixer never lived up to its potential as it was marketed. The speed control circuitry did not endure. Shirley Jones appeared extensively in print and TV ads for Sunbeam during this time period. Sunbeam started losing consumer confidence, much like what happened to Hamilton Beach with the failures of the Custom 200 series mixers during the 1970s. Kitchenaid had the same problem with the Accolaide series.

 

[mixguy]

Question never addressed

Kelly asked if the 220 V motors had more strength that their 110 V relatives. What is wattage of the Australian models 9 12A, 24A. I am not an engineer, nor did I take high school physics. I would expect 135 watt motor running on 220 V to have more strength than a 135 watt motor running on 110 V.

 

[tolivac]

Wether its 120V or 220V the power of both 135W motors is the same.The current draw is halved with the 220V motor.The clue in the question is both motors are rated for 135W.Its not uncommon for appliance and power tool makers to design a motor for a specific power draw-but make two versions of the motor-one to work from 120V,the other version for 220V.Its in the resistence of the windings-lower resistence for the 120V motor and higher resistence for the 220V motor.

 

[mixfinder]

Yippee!!

Thank you so much for more mixer talk. I thrive on it. I spoke with a member from Australia and the specific answer to the performance of the Beater Mix by Sunbeam was a newer motor sold in an older body style, so it started out with more roar. Mick and I are going to skype our machines and check RPM and sounds. I was also interested to see that Sunbeam offered dough hooks for both their hand mixers and stand mixers in the 60's. CR rated Sunbeam one of the two best in mixing dough. I'd be interested to see what they were supplying in England in 1963 for dough hooks. (dough hooks in a model 12)

 

[mixguy]

Mixer differences

The same thing happened in the US. The US equivalent to the Australian Beatermix was the Sunbeam HMS (65w motor). Sunbeam Australia's first Beatermix used the Sunbeam Junior mixmaster model J motor (65 watt motor). Later Beatermix models used the design of the Sunbeam model HMD (100 watt motor).