What Is Up With Gain he Powder?

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OH WOW

I'm glad I read this, because it's almost time for me to buy more detergent. The last detergent I bought was the Costco Kirkland HE powder, which is NOT bad at all quite honestly. I don't see a single sud when washing (unless it's a really small load) which I rarely wash small loads, and even then, it's not overly sudsy. When I used to use the Sears detergent, I kept that small Sears scoop that came with it, and I use that for dosing, sometimes an even scoop, or a little more or less, depending on what I'm washing...We have pretty hard water here and I rarely see suds in the over 10 years I've had my FL washer.

G A I N is my favorite detergent and I was going to go back to that as soon as I ran out of this Costco stuff.

By the way - what is Wind Fresh?
 
Gain HEC Powder and Suds!!!!! WTF!!!

I'm so glad I found this thread to corroborate the fact that I am not crazy!

I called the Gain customer service line today to tell them I've been a longtime, loyal "Gainiac" but since I bought the new combined HE and top load powder formula, I get a "suds error light" that shows up on my machine and I have to rinse and drain it. They told me I was using too much or that I needed to use washing machine cleaner every month. That's BS! What have they done? They offered me a coupon for Tide...but I hate the smell of Tide. I don't know what to do....
 
There's always Rosalie's Zero Suds, now available on ebay.

 

I've switched to Tide powder because it's still exclusively for HE machines.  I don't have any issue with the scent, but ideally I don't want any detergent smell in my finished laundry anyway.

 

P&G apparently has no intention of correcting the problem they created with Gain "for both."  Before I bought Tide, I used up most of my Gain "for both" by adding cheap liquid fabric softener to each washload in addition to the Gain powder and it knocked down the suds.  I don't use liquid fabric softener in my front loader, but bought a bottle of Ensueno at the 99c store to use with the overly sudsy Gain.  It comes in many different scents.
 
WOW!....apparently a lot of you guys are having issues.....there has to be something to this, why some have issues, that others don't, and I don't always push the idea of water hardness....

I do know that if my Ph tank runs out of chemical, all scents from detergents are not present by the end of the washing....

there are times we want to play around to produce suds, and the only choice is washing the load again, or adding dish soap....

I'll agree, HE machines can fit up to three times the load of a regular TLer, that can answer a lot of problems, rarely do I wash half loads in a HE machine......but the dosage is always the same......I liquids I use a shot glass per load, for powders, maybe two......

this brings an odd point for people who claim a HE machine takes too long for a cycle, these machines can wash up to three times your normal TLer load....time is money to certain people.....but let's take a traditional Maytag TLer for instance, how long would it take you to wash 3 loads?...a little over 90 minutes?

responses from manufacturers are programmed robotic lectures, they know nothing else than basic questions, and try to fill in the gap of what may fit the bill.....talk to one in person, and they have no clue of what their product even is, not to mention how it works.....any given complaint, as we have seen in many cases, is user error, they will never admit that they have an issue with their own product......lets not even try to go on about trying to launch a complaint, it falls on deaf ears.....those companies don't care.....one good thing, call and complain, you get coupons!, better than what the Sunday paper gives you...

I am curious as to how you guys are getting suds that I can't!.....I have softened water, Ph treated, and a medium density filter.....WTH?....wonder what would happen if I double or triple the dose.....I will get back to you...
 
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