All I want is a Maytag...

[rickr]

Junkyard Norges

Hi Kenny, I think the one solid tub Norge is a 1954 or 55, and the other one is a 1958 model. At any rate, the parts would not interchange on Freds machine at all. I think the transmition in the 1969 Touch n' Wash would be the same as Freds machine though.
I hope Robert is able to get this 64 MW repaired with the parts from the early 70's "donor" machine. But if not, well, you cannot save them all, have a job, a home to maintain, and some sort of social life. Robert has saved more than his fair share of cool unusual antiques, and nobody can argue with that fact! Sometimes I feel that the ones that are the most critical around here never restore a damn thing. And that is another fact...

 

[Unimatic1140]

Good News Everyone

The Wards is saved! The amazing thing about this early machine is it has two solenoids to shift the machine into spin, not just one solenoid like the later Plus-Capacity Norge machines from the 70's.

There is a brake solenoid (just like all other Norges) and a spin shifter solenoid. The old motor was leaking voltage between the windings and making it draw a lot of current. Since the spin-shifter solenoid was wired on the same line as the defective motor it wasn't getting enough power to activate it. Once I changed the motor, all is fine. To my surprise, unlike the machines of the 70s, this machine doesn't have a slipping spring clutch so the tub is brought up to speed much faster in this early design. Its just like a solid-tub Norge or a Unimatic in rev'ing up to full speed quickly.

 

[Unimatic1140]

The Worlds Largest Roto-Swirl-a-lator

I've always wanted to see what this monster could do...

 

[Unimatic1140]

Full load of towels

 

[Unimatic1140]

This machine is very cool, I'll post a video to you-tube sometime over the weekend.

 

[Unimatic1140]

last one for now...

 

[appnut]

tub is brought up to speed much faster..in rev'ing up to

YAY!! Glad it's saved. Now, reading my description of the extract sequence, I would hope those who have played with norges from the 70s would have realized (hopefully) this design is diffferent and does get up to spin speed quite quickly--that 15 second or so spin portion before the spray rinse, you have to get up pretty quickly. I"m very grateful for the explanation of the mechanical design differences. I believe this early design was actually an achillies heel which ended causing premature failure. I'll also say, when the machine went into spin, ou could tell some difference in the light illumination in the bathroom just for a moment--and this was a 3 year old house custom built!!!

also, this agitator is quite a big "wavy" compared to what our Norge had as well as our neighbor's unit, which was more like the LNC6915 from the above service manual. However, the more wavy style may have been only used for suds-saver models. The "splash" produced is quite dramatic until medium water level is reached. And I loved the 5 minute rinse agitation.

also, be very careful with the filter pan. I'm amazed it's in such perfect shape.

Wonder how many others in the club had exposure to Norges of this design and vintage.

 

[appnut]

Don't you just love the "Soak Cycle" ? Adverti

Michael, that arrangement became pretty common. GE did that. I believe Westinghouse did too. If you will notice on the photo of the Norge Dispensomat we had, on the cycle selector dial, there was the long blue cycle which went pretty much around the cycle display. Then there was the reddish pink band and the smaller blue band under the pink band. That is the exact same arrangemt as is shown on the above Wards machine but I venture to guess the Norge's pink band had a longer wash time than the 3 minutes found ont he Wards machine. Now, our Norge didn't have the pink band (hmm, the appliance gods knew even back then I wouldn't have anything pink on my appliances lol). What it did have was a soak cycle which consisted of programmed button with cold waster only and a 5 minute agitation. then the above-mentioned extract sequence with coasting spray rinse, a minute of pumping, then antother 4 minute spin and coast. also, our machine had NORGE15 on the top left on the control panel instead of the NORGE14 as shown in the drawing. Geez, I'm babling on and on about this washer and I hated it after having it around for 1 year. I still wanted a Kenmore instaed of that Norge!! and those 8 buttons weren't programmed like a lady Kenore's cycle buttons--the standaerd as to how I washed when it came to temp & speed combinations.

 

[goatfarmer]

Great news!

 

[mickeyd]

Lemon Chiffon Pie-- Robert & Fred, those photos are dazzling

I think you & Greg made such a pie two Xmases ago, and your delicious pix reminded me of it.

Does the Spiral Norge agi work like the Easy Spiralator or is it more ferocious? Would love to see it.

Bob, does the pump stay on during the coast spray or is it really the rinse fill as in the mid 60's Unimatics?

Thank you all three.

 

[appnut]

does the pump stay on during the coast spray

Michael, the pump does stay on during the coast spray that's part of the extract phase that's the short 20 second or so spin after the drain of the wash water. As for the coast and spray that's the beginning of the rinse, the answer si no, the pump doesn't ttay on for that.

 

[revvinkevin]

YAY FRED AND ROBERT FOR SAVING THIS MACHINE!

I'm very pleased to hear you were able to save and repair this washer Robert! What a great machine! I'd love to have a washer like this, but we don't find the old ones like that here in Southern California anymore!

CONGRATS!
Kevin

 

[toploader55]

Hey Guys

Great Save.
I have vivid memories of a Timeline exactly like yours. Love the Solenoid Bangs. The Timeline was at a neighbor of ours here on the Cape. As I recall it just Blasted through the cycle without a pause between cycles.
I never realized that Norge did a "Swirl" Agitator.

 

[swestoyz]

This is an AWESOME washer Robert and Fred! If you ever want to trade it up for an A806.... ;-)

Very interesting that the bad windings in the motor were enough to leak voltage/current away from the solenoid windings. Glad it was an easy fix, and I can't wait to see this one.

Ben

 

[norgeway]

FRED....

Try it on a load of nasty work rags, I dont think it can be beat, but then I guess I am the Norge nut here!!

 

[rickr]

Glad to learn you guys were able to save this Monkey Norge!

Great save!!