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laundryshark

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Since I happen to be totally blind, independent information access to the same off-the-shelf electronic reading devices is as important to me (along with many others in my shoes) as any other consumer wishing to use these kinds of products. Therefore, I am asking all my friends and associates through AW to please take a moment to read, sign, and spread the word about this online petition. Many thanks.--Laundry Shark

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/We-Want-To-Read
 
Tricky Subject...

Laundry Shark - Please understand that I completely understand where you're coming from, and that I support the idea of people who need help with access getting it.

However, there is a problem with the "read aloud" feature that isn't being addressed: compensation for authors. Authors create work to be published in a certain medium, and traditionally, if a publisher wanted to re-publish the work in another medium (such as a cassette or CD "talking book"), then additional fees were paid to the author for such re-publication.

What Kindle's feature does is to create a secondary publication that the author did not specifically authorise, and was not paid for.

As an author whose financial well-being depends on proper observance of publishing contracts and copyright law, I think the solution here is to grant access to those like yourself who actually have a demonstrated need for it, rather than throwing Pandora's Box open and depriving writers of yet more revenue in a shrinking, difficult market. I personally am just fine with giving someone like you audio access to my work at no additional fee, but I am major not okay with giving it to everyone for nothing, just so they can listen to it in their car or whatever. Audio books are a medium for which mainstream users have always had to pay.

I know there are lots of people nowadays who think that copyright is a bunch of silly hogwash, but I am here to tell them - wait until you write a book, or a song, or take a photo that turns out to have great news value, and you'll sing a very different tune. People like you have a right to access. People like me have a right to be paid. There has to be a better way of working this out than giving my work away to everyone in a way I never licenced.

I hope you'll take this in the spirit of constructive discussion. Again, you should have access at no additional charge. The lady who's driving the next car over from me shouldn't. There has to be a way to accomplish that, and I'm willing to bet that if Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos was smart enough to put the Kindle into existence, he's smart enough to find that way.
 
One Solution...

...That occurs to me is that doctors, social workers and other professionals who care for and work with people who have physical problems that limit their ability to read print could be licenced to dispense a code that would enable the "read-aloud" feature for those who have a demonstrated need for it. The code would enable the Kindle to run the "read-aloud" feature for a year or two, then it could be renewed by the same professional who dispensed the original. This would prevent used Kindles from becoming a perpetual source of free audio-book material for those who just want something for the car.

That sounds like a win-win for me - how would you feel about that?
 
Sincere question--

What's wrong with Braille? It appears to be in decline.

If I ever lose my eyesight, I fully intend to learn Braille to the best of my ability.

I tried recorded books when I had to do a lot of driving for family matters, and I disliked the slowness. I did not like taking 14 hours for a recorded book that I could read in 4 hours.

I also disliked several narrators who tried to perform different voices for different characters....ghastly! Particularly in the last one I listened to, one of Joanne Fluke's Hannah Swenson mysteries.

I have another quibble with the Amazon Kindle, in that you can't share the text...I like to be able to loan a book once in a while....

I wish you so well, Shark.

Lawrence/Maytagbear
 
Hmmm...

A hundred million years ago when wild poodles prowled the plains, I worked as a Software Engineer for a library automation firm. You know, the ole online card catalog?

A considerable amount of our work was for LBPH, Library For The Blind And Physically Handicapped. It was great experience.

Sandy's idea of an unlock code seems good and workable, and probably a direction to take. Or an audio encoder/decoder device, such as is used with computer systems. Sometime, when you are asked to type in the characters from a picture to prevent spam, make sure your sound is on and click instead on the wheelchair symbol if so provided.

And Lawrence: have you ever seen a Braille book? They're HUGE. And HEAVY. Back in the day, LBPH would ship these things. The cost of shipping alone even then was almost the price you'd pay for the hardback book.

There are elctro mechanical devices that "pop up Braille" from a computer screen or scan. But like any mechanical device, they are prone to failure. In this day of technological advance, where what once was an entire bookstore can be stored in flash memory and put in your pocket, equal access to the written word should not be left in the dust.

Laundry Shark, I have read and will sign the petition.

Thank you for posting about it.

John
 
Yes---

I have seen Braille publications. There are people who read Braille in my circle.

I believe in the original documents, whenever possible. It is what I was taught, from fourth grade, on up through graduate school.

I am not saying that every person with sight difficulties cannot use the technology of his or her choice. Not at all.

I was just wondering. Last I knew, polite curiousity was still legal.

Lawrence/Maytagbear
 
A matter of Perspective

Folks--Your remarks are sincerely appreciated, but please allow me to clarify some points here.

I have absolutely nothing against Braille. After all, I have read and written it for most of my life. I remember toting Braille books to and from school, but I would rather not do that again. If I really had my way, I would have all the Braille I wanted or needed, but I do not have room for countless Braille volumes, especially in an efficiency apartment, nor could I afford to rent extra storage space. Besides, to arrange for halling my Braille stuff to and from the post office is a real pain in the butt. Therefore, I would rather use an electronic Braille device. However, the problem here is expense, as in thousands of dollars to purchase a low end paperless Braille notetaker. The Department for the Blind will not give these away for charitable reasons, but only if one really needs it for a full time job, something else which cannot be had as though jobs were "2 for 1" at the grocery store, especially in these harsh economic times. Hopefully, somehow, these electronic Braille devices would come down in price, and that funding would be made available to help purchase these for those Braille readers who do need them.

As for the TTS on any off-the-shelf device? Having this accessibility feature active does not imply that the reader is getting the book for free. If a blind person can also have equal access to the same security measures built into these devices, then purchasing electronic books is no different than for sighted readers. All we are asking is independent access (not having to depend on others to read and manipulate the device for us) to the same book titles as anybody else, not free copies as special or charitable preference.

I think this is pronounced "CAPTIA." It's the technical term or acronym for the character codes that one must copy in order to access some Web sites. These codes are displayed in a picture or "painted" format that is not readable by JAWS and other assistive technologies. It's like running your hand on an electronic display without Braille or tactile marking to guide you. In some cases, graphical user interfaces that move around or change cannot be Brailled. Example: Braille on ATM machines makes as much sense as a screen door on a submarine. Once I rented a house with some other guys. The kitchen contained a late model Whirlpool stove. The burners I could use because I could set the knobs to the appropriate heat settings. The oven, however, was one of those silly GUI jobs, as I could not feel a pointer or change in numbers to set the time and temperatures. So I had to ask a roommie to set it so I could cook a pizza or something else in the oven.

I'll leave you some relevant Web resources. Again, I am not offended by your comments. After all, it is not the unpardonable sin to be ignorant and misunderstand some issues here. I have also been there and done that.

First, I'll share the link for the National Library Service for the Blind and Physically Handicapped.--Laundry Shark

http://www.loc.gov/nls
 
One of the advances of the last years

Which many people overlook is voice synthesis on computer systems.

If all you know about the computer reading "out loud" is that hideous Microsoft Bob or the only marginally less-bad Apple solution, then you are really missing something.

Personally, I am not going to go for the Kindle solution. One, I do not like being tied down.
Second, there are a lot of very small and independent internet publishers and authors whom I wish to support.

You can get readers for virtually everything (even Kindle books on an iPhone).

Here's a link to a pretty good example of what voices can sound like on normal PCs without any special equipment.

There are other resources, too - this is just one we have implemented at our university for our blind/handicapped students in the library.

http://www.cepstral.com/
 
Just to clarify my statements

Lawrence said " Last I knew, polite curiousity was still legal."

Lawrence, if my comments came off as combative or provocative, I sincerely apologize as I did not intend for them to be that way. Seeing your posts here over the years, you're one of the nicest guys around.

I'll make a point of checking my writing more carefully for how it could be interpreted. Again, I apologize for any offense.

~John
 
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