Oh Greg,
Sorry about that. That SO stinks!
Sorry about that. That SO stinks!
Brokeback Mountain DVD
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One has to wonder how a thief had opportunity to hork the disc what with the industrial-strength prophylactic wrap and tape that encases them!
Makes me wonder if some vandals from the religious right didn't purposely purloin the actual DVD in store and later destroy it as part of their campaign to get Walmart not to sell the movie.
A razor blade or sharp penknife probably allowed whoever did it to slit open the case and disgorge the contents, pretty quickly.
I have noticed a growing trend in DVD's, though. For nearly 20 bucks we get a plastic case without any documentation. No program, not even a coupon for movie related accessories. I also noticed this with my last DVD purchase, the Wallace & Grommit "Attack of the Wererabbit" movie. Just the DVD, nothing else. Oh well, most of the "liner notes" are usually illegible, anyway.
A razor blade or sharp penknife probably allowed whoever did it to slit open the case and disgorge the contents, pretty quickly.
I have noticed a growing trend in DVD's, though. For nearly 20 bucks we get a plastic case without any documentation. No program, not even a coupon for movie related accessories. I also noticed this with my last DVD purchase, the Wallace & Grommit "Attack of the Wererabbit" movie. Just the DVD, nothing else. Oh well, most of the "liner notes" are usually illegible, anyway.
I took the Harry Potter video back in today to exchange for one WITH the disc. Strangely enough, there was no hermetically sealed tape on the lower part of the case as there was on the top. Once the plastic outer wrapping was cut or removed (as ours was) you could easily snap the case open far enough to slip the disc out.
Oh, I thought the Brokeback DVD was the one that had the missing disc. Sorry.
I wonder where all of those good Christian bigots would shop if they could not, in good conscience, shop at WalMart? It would be an interesting social phonomenum. Would they place their bigotry before their economics and love for things made in China? It brings to mind the Nazis telling the master race that they could not patronize Jewish businesses or professionals like doctors and that's important to note, because the only logical end of both hate groups' campaigns is to get rid of their targets. If you would like any background for the BBM movie campaign, Google Entarte Kunst. In any case, the WalMart boycott will probably be as effective as the Disney boycott.
Well, I've watched it twice on DVD now. I am noticing more nuances of the story the second time around. The interviews in the DVD special features area are good, also. They helped me realize how the film portrays the chaos and dismay that can occur when two people - regardless of orientation - with lfielong genuine affection for each other are not able to acknowledge it openly, or be together.
Not in Europe, thank you VERY much. You can keep them...
...if only the lions had not caught their death of cold. I *told* Gaius Tiberius not to leave them out overnight, but would he listen? Not.
So now we missed our one chance to abite the problem.
Have never liked Walmart, but am definitely shopping their now.
...if only the lions had not caught their death of cold. I *told* Gaius Tiberius not to leave them out overnight, but would he listen? Not.
So now we missed our one chance to abite the problem.
Have never liked Walmart, but am definitely shopping their now.
whirlcool
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To tell you the truth...
I really had no interest in seeing this movie. For some reason the subject matter didn't appeal to me. But last night the wife called me in the den to watch the BBM special on Logo TV. So I did watch that, I will admit it seems like a beautifully filmed movie, and I am a sucker for brilliant photography. I couldn't make much out of the entire story line, the Logo show concentrated on the actors, director, production problems, and how everyone got through the filming of the movie. So tonight we'll watch the movie and see what we think of it.
Is this one of those movies with a sad ending? I don't like sad endings, gore, and needless violence in my movies.
I really had no interest in seeing this movie. For some reason the subject matter didn't appeal to me. But last night the wife called me in the den to watch the BBM special on Logo TV. So I did watch that, I will admit it seems like a beautifully filmed movie, and I am a sucker for brilliant photography. I couldn't make much out of the entire story line, the Logo show concentrated on the actors, director, production problems, and how everyone got through the filming of the movie. So tonight we'll watch the movie and see what we think of it.
Is this one of those movies with a sad ending? I don't like sad endings, gore, and needless violence in my movies.
veg-o-matic
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It's not A sad ending.
It's the granddaddy of all sad endings.
veg
It's the granddaddy of all sad endings.
veg
whirlcool
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I guess it's time...
to break out the case of Kleenex. Karen (the wife) goes to absolute pieces during sad endings, and I get all choked up and teary eyed and whatever happens in the movie keeps rerunning in my mind for several days which I find very disturbing.
What made me actually want to see this movie was the line from the television special "It's not just a gay cowboy movie, it's soooo much more than that!". We'll see!
to break out the case of Kleenex. Karen (the wife) goes to absolute pieces during sad endings, and I get all choked up and teary eyed and whatever happens in the movie keeps rerunning in my mind for several days which I find very disturbing.
What made me actually want to see this movie was the line from the television special "It's not just a gay cowboy movie, it's soooo much more than that!". We'll see!
may63
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I finally saw it last weekend. I shed a few tears, but didn't think while leaving the theater it would haunt me for days afterwards...but it has.
I agree with Rich/Sudsmaster when he says: "The film portrays the chaos and dismay that can occur when two people - regardless of orientation - with lifelong genuine affection for each other are not able to acknowledge it openly, or be together." That statement and the mood of the movie itself..the cinematography, the music, etc...that is what has stuck with me since Saturday [sigh].
I agree with Rich/Sudsmaster when he says: "The film portrays the chaos and dismay that can occur when two people - regardless of orientation - with lifelong genuine affection for each other are not able to acknowledge it openly, or be together." That statement and the mood of the movie itself..the cinematography, the music, etc...that is what has stuck with me since Saturday [sigh].
The movie's ending is perhaps best described as bitter-sweet. There is some violence in it, but it's not gratuitous, it's all in the plot. Certainly less violence than many dramatic movies being made today. Ditto for the gore.
In a sense, this movie didn't need to win an Oscar. It is unforgettable all on its own.
whirlcool
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While I thought the movie was good.....
I was left with tons of questions at the end. Like What REALLY happened? Did Jack's wife know anything, did Jack's parents know anything about their freindship? I suspect that they did by all the "help" he was susposed to have come to the ranch and live there. I didn't think that these guys were gay at all, just bi with Jack leaning towards men and Ennis leaning towards women. I think that Ennis just got swept into this relationship by accident and got taken away by it. I think too much was left for us to figure out in the end of this film.
Sudsmaster, you were right about the violence in this movie, but I never saw it coming and by the time I realized what happened it was over and gone.
Without trying to spoil it for others, my wife had to remind me that that was a closet door that was being closed at the end.
And I do believe these kind of relationships exist between some men, back in my early days of flying I showed up early for a flight out of MEM, no passengers or agents were at the gate yet. As I opened the door to go down the jetway, I saw something move out of the corner of my eye. In the back of the gate desk there is a coat rack that is hidden from view of the concourse by the height of the wall behind where the agent stands. What I saw move was my Captain kissing another man! I just scurried down the jetway and didn't say anything, but I was freaked out that entire trip! I never would have suspected as this Captain was married with kids too. And as a relatively new F/O I dare not "rock the boat" with a Captain.
Back to the movie, if you go out around Kerrville & Hunt, Texas you start finding the kind of guys that were in this movie. They say very little, keep everything in, etc. It seems you never know what they are thinking. I think the BBM movie really is about what are the true things that make up a man.
I was left with tons of questions at the end. Like What REALLY happened? Did Jack's wife know anything, did Jack's parents know anything about their freindship? I suspect that they did by all the "help" he was susposed to have come to the ranch and live there. I didn't think that these guys were gay at all, just bi with Jack leaning towards men and Ennis leaning towards women. I think that Ennis just got swept into this relationship by accident and got taken away by it. I think too much was left for us to figure out in the end of this film.
Sudsmaster, you were right about the violence in this movie, but I never saw it coming and by the time I realized what happened it was over and gone.
Without trying to spoil it for others, my wife had to remind me that that was a closet door that was being closed at the end.
And I do believe these kind of relationships exist between some men, back in my early days of flying I showed up early for a flight out of MEM, no passengers or agents were at the gate yet. As I opened the door to go down the jetway, I saw something move out of the corner of my eye. In the back of the gate desk there is a coat rack that is hidden from view of the concourse by the height of the wall behind where the agent stands. What I saw move was my Captain kissing another man! I just scurried down the jetway and didn't say anything, but I was freaked out that entire trip! I never would have suspected as this Captain was married with kids too. And as a relatively new F/O I dare not "rock the boat" with a Captain.
Back to the movie, if you go out around Kerrville & Hunt, Texas you start finding the kind of guys that were in this movie. They say very little, keep everything in, etc. It seems you never know what they are thinking. I think the BBM movie really is about what are the true things that make up a man.
a few thoughts
I like whirlcools comments. The film is based on a short story (is on the net, worth reading). In the story, the author places Jack as gay and Ennis as emotionally repressed.
It was definitely meant as a gay love and meeting of soul-mates under ill-crossed stars. They didn't just fall into it, is was them. The symbolism of shirt in shirt with the blood...oh, man. That one got me crying...along with the two (straight) cowboys I was sitting next to in the theater.
Most of the other questions were also left open by the author. The violence is very real---Matthew Shepard was tortured and murdered just around the corner from my folk's place up on the Wyoming border.
Just one of the many reasons I am SO looking forward to returning to the 'States...over here (except for a lot of the Turkish immigrants and many of the Poles for some reason) everybody is pretty much into "live and let live."
If anybody knows what life is like for a gay man in Northern Colorado/Southern Wyoming these days, would love to hear from them. Damn, I loved growing up in the Rockies...hate seeing what the US seems to have become in the last years.
I like whirlcools comments. The film is based on a short story (is on the net, worth reading). In the story, the author places Jack as gay and Ennis as emotionally repressed.
It was definitely meant as a gay love and meeting of soul-mates under ill-crossed stars. They didn't just fall into it, is was them. The symbolism of shirt in shirt with the blood...oh, man. That one got me crying...along with the two (straight) cowboys I was sitting next to in the theater.
Most of the other questions were also left open by the author. The violence is very real---Matthew Shepard was tortured and murdered just around the corner from my folk's place up on the Wyoming border.
Just one of the many reasons I am SO looking forward to returning to the 'States...over here (except for a lot of the Turkish immigrants and many of the Poles for some reason) everybody is pretty much into "live and let live."
If anybody knows what life is like for a gay man in Northern Colorado/Southern Wyoming these days, would love to hear from them. Damn, I loved growing up in the Rockies...hate seeing what the US seems to have become in the last years.
Let's put it this way. I saw a fabulous T-shirt in West Hollywood, California
MODERN AMERICA:
(Map underneath. Depicted were
An area around Los Angeles and San Francisco, California
An area around Chicago, Illinois
an area Around New York City, New York.
PERIOD.
MODERN AMERICA:
(Map underneath. Depicted were
An area around Los Angeles and San Francisco, California
An area around Chicago, Illinois
an area Around New York City, New York.
PERIOD.
Red or Blue for you baby-doll?
P.S. the areas did include a few states, not just the cities themselves.
P.S. the areas did include a few states, not just the cities themselves.
OOPSIE
Botson, Massachussets was there too.
Botson, Massachussets was there too.
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