Coming Eventually, the New and "Improved" Super Forum

[jeffg]

> But if it makes everyone's life better, why not ban the topics of politics, sex and religion, since they have no place in an open forum when they get nasty. Isure as hell won't miss any of it. <

Andrew, an open forum is precisely that. Open.

Also, your suggestion has already been discussed in this thread. Every one (or nearly all) of the calls to ban political discussions in the Super Forum have come from the minority of Republican AW members who, for whatever reason, can't seem to follow the simple "if you don't like it, don't read it" advice.

 

[perc-o-prince]

Jeff...

With all due respect I am trying to figure out how Shane was making a sideswipe at a member. I think that he was a hell of a lot more polite than I was toward the same person when I wrote, "Let's face it... all of this bull$hit has come about because of one megalomaniacal, proselytizing, dramatic and, dare I say, psychopathic "wing nut" who wouldn't recognize a two by four if it was swung into his forehead." If you take a look at some other resposes, you'll see at least a couple other so-called, "sideswipes" that were a little more direct than what Shane posted.

Sounds to me like you have a problem with Shane, and not so much what he said. I hope that's not true, but if it is, then I would hope you would keep it between the two of you, and private, as Shane invited you to do. What he said was quite "spot-on" I think. I also think what I posted wasn't too far off either, at least from the private responses I've received in the last day or so.

RICH

 

[danemodsandy]

And Jeff:

Count me among the liberals who doesn't care for the political discusson here. In fact, my impression about who does or does not care for such discussion here is exactly the opposite of yours.

 

[jeffg]

Rich, Shane posted:

"I find it rather bizarre that a certain member, who creates alot of the animosity in this forum, has the nerve to offer suggestions."

So now, at least a dozen members are sitting there thinking he's referring to them.

But you're right, he's not the only one who's made these indirect swipes. I have zero personal problems with Shane, or anyone else on AW. I don't even know the guy (from his pic, I'm pretty sure I'd like to . All I'm saying is, if you have something to say to someone, direct your comment to them, not to Robert. IMO this is the only problem with the Super Forum. Don't dump your trash on Robert's lap, make him your cybernanny, and make other members needlessly defensive.

 

[jeffg]

Sandy, it was because of you I added the "nearly all" part. But the basic point is still correct IMO.

 

[panthera]

Um,

I do believe Robert opened this thread to suggestions, not to making threats of physical violence and attacking people.

Personally, I would prefer for those here who have 'issues' with me to use my name - panthera or Keven, instead of making abstruse comments on the grounds plausible denial.

Actually, tho', I'd appreciate it greatly if perc-o-prince (either/both) would lay off the threats of physical violence. W

Hint: When you are trying to convince everyone that you are the poor, wee, innocent victim of a great big jungle cat, you don't advance your case by letting lose with language which is far nastier than anything you claim to be affronted by.

 

[perc-o-prince]

Jeff,

I think subtlety is something that's often overlooked and under-used in modern times. Everything's gotta be right in the face or it can't be understood. Perhaps those of us who use it give others credit they don't deserve? Like credit for having more than three living brain cells with two of those on respirators? Is a map really necessary? Do a dozen members of this forum REALLY think it could be them? If anyone thinks it could be them, please email me off-list and I'll let you know it isn't (knowing who WON'T email me!).

Just think back to the entire reason this thread was even started (if I may presume, Robert). The now-closed "balls" thread, IIRC. And who started that? Is the picture coming into a little more focus?

That said, I know Toggle was a little more subtle than I was, as was Rich, and I'll throw Shane and Rickr into that group as well. If I missed anyone, sorry! I, on the other hand, wasn't as subtle. A larger picture of a muzzled German Shephard? A link to synthetic heroin available in Germany? Get it???

Chuck (NOT Rich)
p.s.- I guess I don't get how anything any of the aforementioned folk posted was trash dumped on Robert's lap, or required him to be a cybernanny. In fact, many posts have supported something that would NOT cause Robert any additional coding work, though you wouldn't be happy about it.

 

[jeffg]

> p.s.- I guess I don't get how anything any of the aforementioned folk posted was trash dumped on Robert's lap, or required him to be a cybernanny. <

Chuck, Shane's sideswipe, in fact a few others as well have been addressed to Robert. How is that not trash dumped on his lap?

 

[foraloysius]

I'm flabbergasted by the hostility in this thread. No need at all for talk like this. Robert is so graceful to let us discuss the future of this forum with him and then that is what he gets for gratitude. Bad manners!!

 

[sudsman]

After the BS I see here and the hate

I can understand if he decide to just pull the plug and end it. Just too much crap// if you have anything to say with your nasty cracks about what i say EMAIL ME DIRECT !

 

[danemodsandy]

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[rickr]

Personally, I would prefer for those here who have 'issues' with me to use my name - panthera or Keven, instead of making abstruse comments on the grounds plausible denial.

Ummmmm, Thanks, but I'll stick with this....

 

[toggleswitch2]

Shane, I commend you for being man enough to try to make ammends. For those that have sat in judgment of him because of any supposed political leanings, that is truly disguisting. Seems to me like Shane makes two posts and gets crucified.

As far as the dog with a muzzle, it is unfortunate that the best image I could find (that wasn't kinky beyond belief) was of that breed. But my point is we have a few rabid dogs here that don't know when to STFU and back-off already. Myself included.

So. unevolved testosterone-laden men wnat to destroy their enemies often physically, and unevolved females want to verbally destroy reputations, gossip and tear the character of others to shreds/threads.

Congratualtiosn to us. We've gotten lower than both.

And honeslty if you really think the Republicans, the Liberals, the Martians, the Muslims, the Christian(-ists) are singlehandedly out to get you, get some help already.

And before anyone calls anyone else names, one should look in the mirror. I know who I am EXACTLY, good AND EVIL. Do you know realistically who YOU are?

RANT over.

Sorry kids I have a bad cold/infecition since Thursday and am sitting in the house stir-crazy. Acutally that's my Aunt-flo' knocking at the door. Gotta go answer it.

PEACE OUT! Love ya, mean it!

 

[sdlee]

Knock it off you guys, sheesh if Id acted like this growing up my parents would have beat me to a pulp!!!

Anyway back to the real problems at hand one being something I touched on earlier and strongenough78 has mentioned twice is donations to Robert for all he has given us.Anyone up for a start date? Every month? Once a year? Once every six months?

Seems like this is one way we could assist Robert since theres very little we can do about the rest of the problems we cause for him.

 

[sdlee]

Ill agree with Jeff G on one thing (from the looks of his ) picture (sudshane)Id like to know him.

All others in agreement say aye

Shane is a foxy stud

 

[toggleswitch2]

There an app for that.

There is a charge for that.

(ducks and runs.)

 

[sudsmaster]

I don't know why...

But somehow this whole ruckus reminds me of those Monty Python skits where the guys are all in house dresses swinging big purses at each other.

In the mud.

;-)

 

[perc-o-prince]

Since you asked.............

To be perfectly clear, neither Rich nor I have made ANY threats, direct or veiled, of physical violence to ANYONE, publicly or privately.

If, "...wouldn't recognize a two by four if it was swung into his forehead..." is in question, that's an American colloquialism. Actually, I believe it goes, "wouldn't know a 2 x 4 if it hit him upside the head," but close enough. It refers to the inability to recognize something that is, or has been made, perfectly clear.

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(The above was written about an hour or so ago before other posts were made, but had to sit as I had a sick pet-thing to deal with. More posts have probably been made since I resumed writing this.)
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Now, YES, Keven, was there any question that you were the one myself and others have been referring to? I tried to make it clear without being blunt. You see, I too am German, but only about half. I can temper my German arrogance and bluntness with common sense. You have seemingly not found that balance, but, hey, everyone's different! I think it's safe to say that we celebrate diversity on this forum!

What I'd like to suggest, if I may, is that you ask your doctor about a meds adjustment. Just please make sure it's one of your MDs in Munich. I think you'll agree, if you haven't said it already, that US doctors can't hold a candle to them!

Chuck

 

[markk290]

Humm, what an example

Robert simply asked for suggestions on how to handle avoiding the BS this thread has become.
I have always known that I was gay and have been very proud of it. You all make me ashamed of myself. It's no wonder we have the reputation we do with " STRAIGHT PEOPLE". This is exactly the reason I have never fit in with my own kind. DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA. Hopefully people visiting for the first time won't be so turned off that they won't consider becoming members.
Robert thank you for all you have done and continue to do with YOUR web site and any changes YOU make will be fine with me. Mark

 

[sudsmaster]

Please, no bricks in the purses.