Well finally Friday night I was able to wash a load of whites in the Admiral with results close to the LAT Maytag. As suggested I cranked the cold tap almost all the way off for the wash fill. Was leary to turn it completely off as I am forgetful. After the wash spin I turned the timer back to 6 minutes of wash, reopened the cold valve all the way and let it run all the way to off. It pretty much created a rinse and a 1/2 with rerunning the full cycle and the lower water level rinse (it was set on Large Load). I think I can live with the Admiral for the bulk of our lightly soiled color loads. For white loads it is a PITA. alr
Dubbed down or dumbed down hot water wash
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tecnopolis
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Attach this splitter valve to your washer. The second hose from the hot water split. and your cold water inlet hose to the other.
Now when you want a hot wash, simply close the valve on the cold side with the little toggle and you'll get a hot fill thru your washer's cold fill valve. Want a warm fill, throttle the cold valve to get the correct mix for the desired temperature.
Hope this makes sense.
Now when you want a hot wash, simply close the valve on the cold side with the little toggle and you'll get a hot fill thru your washer's cold fill valve. Want a warm fill, throttle the cold valve to get the correct mix for the desired temperature.
Hope this makes sense.
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Alex, for people considering these parts, are the hoses included with the mixer reinforced or plain rubber?
Mixers fix the temperature problem, but a side benefit of drilling out the hot water orifice is that washer fills are much faster, by a third or more. It's not until you spend the 10 minutes to do it that you start kicking yourself for not doing it sooner. It's saved us hours of waiting over the last couple years.
Mixers fix the temperature problem, but a side benefit of drilling out the hot water orifice is that washer fills are much faster, by a third or more. It's not until you spend the 10 minutes to do it that you start kicking yourself for not doing it sooner. It's saved us hours of waiting over the last couple years.
tecnopolis
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drilling out is fine if your looking for a quicker fill. but some are looking for a totally "true" hot wash or warm rinse that today's machines prevent. This is a walk around to that.
The hoses are straight rubber. but you could create your own using stainless steel hoses and another y-splitter from the garden department.
The hoses are straight rubber. but you could create your own using stainless steel hoses and another y-splitter from the garden department.
For the price of the mixer and its intended use it should have reinforced hoses imo. I'd highly recommend finding a similar replacement that includes them, or simply buy your own, especially if you keep your water heater cranked up.
At least the valves look to be real brass instead of Chinese pot metal.
At least the valves look to be real brass instead of Chinese pot metal.
tecnopolis
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My point was to show this restriction could be overcome with simple off-the-shelf parts.
Of course the user can mix and match components to suit their own preference and budget.
I like Porsches, some might choose Corvette.
Of course the user can mix and match components to suit their own preference and budget.
I like Porsches, some might choose Corvette.
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The only problem with this is that when the machine is not filling or not in use, you MUST keep at least one of those valves closed or else you're literally joining the cold and hot water lines together, and you'll have warm water coming out of all water outlets in the house.
Of course, I'm not saying this cannot be done, it's just that you have to be there waiting for the fills and such. (unless of course you're just doing a cold wash and rinse)
Of course, I'm not saying this cannot be done, it's just that you have to be there waiting for the fills and such. (unless of course you're just doing a cold wash and rinse)
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I actually was thinking similarly to you, though I'd fit the two way onto Hot tap and another to the Cold tap, add some "Hot" into the cold and hopefully temper the water enough for the ATC to be irrelevant in its efforts (ATC can't "care" what the Cold water temp is right?). Although, if you did this, the machine might chuck a sad if it couldn't reach the "target" water temperature and you'd have to close your taps after each wash, to prevent Hot/Cold mixing in the mains water.
And your idea of just using the cold water valve and putting a two way on is a BRILLIANT idea! Wish I'd thought of that
I actually was thinking similarly to you, though I'd fit the two way onto Hot tap and another to the Cold tap, add some "Hot" into the cold and hopefully temper the water enough for the ATC to be irrelevant in its efforts (ATC can't "care" what the Cold water temp is right?). Although, if you did this, the machine might chuck a sad if it couldn't reach the "target" water temperature and you'd have to close your taps after each wash, to prevent Hot/Cold mixing in the mains water.
And your idea of just using the cold water valve and putting a two way on is a BRILLIANT idea! Wish I'd thought of that
tecnopolis
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Solution: All you have to do is shut the valve to the added hot water lead to restore the separation. Nothing truly good comes without working for it.
Just add an antisiphon valve or two.....backflow or crossflow can be eliminated
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I had to do the reverse when I used to hook my Haier combo up to the sink. The water temps were timer controlled and with only one hose coming from the faucet I had to split the cold water to feed both inlet valves. this is a little more complicated, but the idea is to provide a temperature crossover which is user controlled.
I liken the energy star efforts of laundry manufacturers to the emissions requirements the auto industry had to impose back in the early 70's.
Yeah, it meets the government requirements, but the end result has been less than desirable for the end user.
I liken the energy star efforts of laundry manufacturers to the emissions requirements the auto industry had to impose back in the early 70's.
Yeah, it meets the government requirements, but the end result has been less than desirable for the end user.
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Martin, where could those be gotten from, also what do they look like? That could work well for my bro's 2010 WP DD.
Usually found at appliance stores...well for me at a Mom/Pop place that sells parts as well....
this just screws onto the hot/cold valves on the wall, and then attach the hoses....simple to install, and prevent any water from going in the wrong direction....basically one way only
hope this helps
for some areas, this is code.....they were on every hose faucet in our new house...
this just screws onto the hot/cold valves on the wall, and then attach the hoses....simple to install, and prevent any water from going in the wrong direction....basically one way only
hope this helps
for some areas, this is code.....they were on every hose faucet in our new house...
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Thanks a lot!
I'll save that link.
I'll save that link.
start looking for one of these now.....were eventually gonna be doing our own "ole time" boil wash.....back to heating water on the stove, and wringer washers...it's gonna be the only option for a hot wash....laugh now....it's comming!....
actually I use this to dye jeans, nothing like a concentrated boiling dye bath!....
actually I use this to dye jeans, nothing like a concentrated boiling dye bath!....
ovrphil
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Warming up to cold
We use all ranges of temperatures for washing all ranges of textiles. I agree, it depends..read the lables, and fyi, we used to use, in the 80's, All Temperature Cheer(haven't looked to see if they still make it).
loved reading this thread - good ideas and the link to the lady who took to hand-washing - lol! It might come to that.
We use all ranges of temperatures for washing all ranges of textiles. I agree, it depends..read the lables, and fyi, we used to use, in the 80's, All Temperature Cheer(haven't looked to see if they still make it).
loved reading this thread - good ideas and the link to the lady who took to hand-washing - lol! It might come to that.
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After reading this
I'm glad my Duet has a heater on it.........I do know that I think mine has ATC even though it has a heater, however, when I select HOT, it feels pretty hot to me - hot enough to create steam, and then it's heated more from that point.......I can't think of anything I wash in warm or cold water, unless it's something like an electric blanket.
Hot water doesn't kill E-Coli though, does it? Don't you need bleach or something for that? I always use a little LCB in whites.
I'm glad my Duet has a heater on it.........I do know that I think mine has ATC even though it has a heater, however, when I select HOT, it feels pretty hot to me - hot enough to create steam, and then it's heated more from that point.......I can't think of anything I wash in warm or cold water, unless it's something like an electric blanket.
Hot water doesn't kill E-Coli though, does it? Don't you need bleach or something for that? I always use a little LCB in whites.
