dave886
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do these machines wash well and are they reliable, because i'm thinking of buying one
hotpoint aqualtis
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paulinroyton
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Hotpoint Aqualtis
Hi there.
I had the Hotpoint Aqualtis model no AQXXF 149 PM, it was a great machine, until I drove into the door and broke it.
It was very quiet on wash and spin, hold a lot of clothes, great for loading and unloading.
Paul
Hi there.
I had the Hotpoint Aqualtis model no AQXXF 149 PM, it was a great machine, until I drove into the door and broke it.
It was very quiet on wash and spin, hold a lot of clothes, great for loading and unloading.
Paul
electron1100
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HMMM now where do i begin
I have had mine about 2 months now and have formed a few opinions of it.
LIKES:
Wash performance Ok to Good
Rinsing is good
Ease of use
Can open the door during part of wash program
7kg load is good for summer quilts
Quiet motor
Styling
DISLIKES
The worst spin balance i have come across can take ages and sometimes aborts spin altogether (needs re-designing)
Noisy pump and water inlet (Hotpoint should be fined under the trades description act for making claims like "shhh whisper quiet" on these machines
The machine cabinet vibrates at high spin speeds sometimes and this is very noisy
Build qaulity is cheap, flimsy and to the limit
Paint is already flaking off in places
And of course the usual long wash times
I think if Hotpoint had spent a little more money on the build qaulity and qaulity of parts used it would be in a much better class and hence a better machine
Other than that i still prefer to use it compared to my Bosch 1400 express
I hope this helps
Gary
I have had mine about 2 months now and have formed a few opinions of it.
LIKES:
Wash performance Ok to Good
Rinsing is good
Ease of use
Can open the door during part of wash program
7kg load is good for summer quilts
Quiet motor
Styling
DISLIKES
The worst spin balance i have come across can take ages and sometimes aborts spin altogether (needs re-designing)
Noisy pump and water inlet (Hotpoint should be fined under the trades description act for making claims like "shhh whisper quiet" on these machines
The machine cabinet vibrates at high spin speeds sometimes and this is very noisy
Build qaulity is cheap, flimsy and to the limit
Paint is already flaking off in places
And of course the usual long wash times
I think if Hotpoint had spent a little more money on the build qaulity and qaulity of parts used it would be in a much better class and hence a better machine
Other than that i still prefer to use it compared to my Bosch 1400 express
I hope this helps
Gary
DO NOT THINK!
I had Hotpoint aqualtis for 8 months, and I was dissatisfied with pretty much everything!
Fast wash 30 is really bad, having just 8minute wash.
Rinses on synthtetics cycle are slow (as soak tumbles) and they don"t doo pretty much anything (after cycle I put on normal cottons rinse, and water is really NOT clear!)
Balancing system really bad, tend"s to balance for ages, and doo nothing!
Only cottons, jeans, and Bed&Bath are usable without any "modyfying" and results are JUST FINE, not EXCELLENT!
And finally, it"s circuit board died, and they didn"t repaired it, and after 2 months it was DEAD, I had a right to give it back for full money refound! I just wonder how would it look like if I hadn"t had 2 more washers.
Now, I have Candy GO4 1274 LH (a version of Hoover Dynamics), and it is MORE QUIET than Aqualtis, and just to compare, FW30 on it has 14 minute wash, and fast tumbles rinse, so it actually can wash, and heat to 40.
I am not suggesting you to buy Candy (if you don"t like them), but I am highly suggesting you not to buy Aqualtis. Just my personal oppineon
Here"s a pic. of Candy xD
I had Hotpoint aqualtis for 8 months, and I was dissatisfied with pretty much everything!
Fast wash 30 is really bad, having just 8minute wash.
Rinses on synthtetics cycle are slow (as soak tumbles) and they don"t doo pretty much anything (after cycle I put on normal cottons rinse, and water is really NOT clear!)
Balancing system really bad, tend"s to balance for ages, and doo nothing!
Only cottons, jeans, and Bed&Bath are usable without any "modyfying" and results are JUST FINE, not EXCELLENT!
And finally, it"s circuit board died, and they didn"t repaired it, and after 2 months it was DEAD, I had a right to give it back for full money refound! I just wonder how would it look like if I hadn"t had 2 more washers.
Now, I have Candy GO4 1274 LH (a version of Hoover Dynamics), and it is MORE QUIET than Aqualtis, and just to compare, FW30 on it has 14 minute wash, and fast tumbles rinse, so it actually can wash, and heat to 40.
I am not suggesting you to buy Candy (if you don"t like them), but I am highly suggesting you not to buy Aqualtis. Just my personal oppineon
Here"s a pic. of Candy xD
aegokocarat
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i have an aqualtis and it is gr8! i say go 4 it mine is 5 years old and it has not given me trouble atall so anyway go 4 it!!!.
Tom
Tom
dave886
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Hotpoint aqualtis
wow some eye opening opinions here, because i already have a hotpoint aqualtis tumble dryer and its is very good at drying and caring for your clothes because i was so impressed with the dryer i was wondering if the washing machine is just as good plus it would match my dryer because the washer i have now is a zanussi the spin cycle is driving me nuts its so loud and aggressive and its showing signs of giving up sooner or later but its a real trooper its been 10yrs since i have had it but between those 10yrs i have fixed it a few times but i would get another zanussi but they do not sell 9kg zanussi washers, i need a machine with a large drum, 9kg minimum any ideas anyone?
wow some eye opening opinions here, because i already have a hotpoint aqualtis tumble dryer and its is very good at drying and caring for your clothes because i was so impressed with the dryer i was wondering if the washing machine is just as good plus it would match my dryer because the washer i have now is a zanussi the spin cycle is driving me nuts its so loud and aggressive and its showing signs of giving up sooner or later but its a real trooper its been 10yrs since i have had it but between those 10yrs i have fixed it a few times but i would get another zanussi but they do not sell 9kg zanussi washers, i need a machine with a large drum, 9kg minimum any ideas anyone?
Aqualtis
We are now on the fourth generation of Aqualtis and I must say am impressed with how they are performing overall, they`ve had many improvements since the first series and motors and components have been upgraded along the way, the last two series seem better quality cabinets & insulation...
Like anything we take our cue from the best, but for price they do offer great features, like any large load machines its essential that the drum is loaded evenly and to 3/4 to full capacity otherwise OOB is all to easy to see in action!!!
Heres a link to a nice site, I here they Sell New & Collect Old....prices arnt bad as well and delivery is usually within three days with installation & removal also available!!
http://tiny.cc/4f530
We are now on the fourth generation of Aqualtis and I must say am impressed with how they are performing overall, they`ve had many improvements since the first series and motors and components have been upgraded along the way, the last two series seem better quality cabinets & insulation...
Like anything we take our cue from the best, but for price they do offer great features, like any large load machines its essential that the drum is loaded evenly and to 3/4 to full capacity otherwise OOB is all to easy to see in action!!!
Heres a link to a nice site, I here they Sell New & Collect Old....prices arnt bad as well and delivery is usually within three days with installation & removal also available!!
http://tiny.cc/4f530
electron1100
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Nice site
oh yes that is a good place to buy a machine i bought my Keymatic from them many years ago, excellent machine and service ;-)
oh yes that is a good place to buy a machine i bought my Keymatic from them many years ago, excellent machine and service ;-)
dave886
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@nrones
thanks for yours ideas but i have done some research on the latest aqualtis washers i have found majority good reviews about the machine, and hoover is also a good make but hoover for me is not as flexible as the aqualtis on the wash choice, but ive also heard the hoovers do have ok to good cleaning performance but noisy spin cycles
thanks for yours ideas but i have done some research on the latest aqualtis washers i have found majority good reviews about the machine, and hoover is also a good make but hoover for me is not as flexible as the aqualtis on the wash choice, but ive also heard the hoovers do have ok to good cleaning performance but noisy spin cycles
Hoovers not flexible?
That only looks on the dial.. but don"t forget that you have a "time manager function" that changes cycle intirely, also synthtetics cycle is having great rinse, and rapid washes are surely better (just see 8mins 25rpm wash on Aqualtis + 25rpm rinses, and on Candy r30 is 14min. wash and 17m. rinse (all tumbles are normal speed (50rpm) and those rinses are as effective as on Aqualtis because aqualtis lost time on spin bursts that Candy turned out (because it is supposed for small load)..
But anyway You buying xD get whatever you want
That only looks on the dial.. but don"t forget that you have a "time manager function" that changes cycle intirely, also synthtetics cycle is having great rinse, and rapid washes are surely better (just see 8mins 25rpm wash on Aqualtis + 25rpm rinses, and on Candy r30 is 14min. wash and 17m. rinse (all tumbles are normal speed (50rpm) and those rinses are as effective as on Aqualtis because aqualtis lost time on spin bursts that Candy turned out (because it is supposed for small load)..
But anyway You buying xD get whatever you want
dave886
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No problems with it!
I've had a 1600 spin Aqualtis since 2007 and it's a great machine. We've had absolutely no issues with it whatsoever.
They are incredibly quite machines. The fill is a little bit 'hissy' and the pump's not the quietest I've ever heard, but the machine is overall exceptionally silent. They may have improved the pump noise in the more recent revisions.
Was performance is very good in my experience and the rinse performance is excellent.
The drum is enormous, so yes, you will have the odd fiddly balance problem if you are running very small loads.
It's exceptionally easy to programme and has very user-friendly controls and good options.
All in all, the build quality is middle-of-the road. It's not Miele high end AEG afterall and the price is a lot lower than what you'd pay for a similarly spec'd machine in that league.
Personally, I wouldn't touch Candy (Hoover / Otsein) with a barge pole. There were some serious problems with the drums on their large capacity machines (See: link below)
http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?30089_14
I've had a 1600 spin Aqualtis since 2007 and it's a great machine. We've had absolutely no issues with it whatsoever.
They are incredibly quite machines. The fill is a little bit 'hissy' and the pump's not the quietest I've ever heard, but the machine is overall exceptionally silent. They may have improved the pump noise in the more recent revisions.
Was performance is very good in my experience and the rinse performance is excellent.
The drum is enormous, so yes, you will have the odd fiddly balance problem if you are running very small loads.
It's exceptionally easy to programme and has very user-friendly controls and good options.
All in all, the build quality is middle-of-the road. It's not Miele high end AEG afterall and the price is a lot lower than what you'd pay for a similarly spec'd machine in that league.
Personally, I wouldn't touch Candy (Hoover / Otsein) with a barge pole. There were some serious problems with the drums on their large capacity machines (See: link below)
http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?30089_14
I really hope you WILL understand what I wrote xD
Just buy Aqualtis.
I like giving a second chance to a product...
*By the way, few Candy machines exploded in Germany only (3 models that were never sold in UK) with a mistake from factory. no matter there are just few, and the last one that could have that mistake was produced in sept. 2009, people just like keep telling that they are exploding no matter what-probobly it"s amusing them. All the Dynamics didn"t exist before 2010, so they are 100% secure. And there was never a case of explosion anywhere except germany (and sweeden)... maybe they should give a second chance to Candy.
(Hope you understood what I wrote).
Just buy Aqualtis.
I like giving a second chance to a product...
*By the way, few Candy machines exploded in Germany only (3 models that were never sold in UK) with a mistake from factory. no matter there are just few, and the last one that could have that mistake was produced in sept. 2009, people just like keep telling that they are exploding no matter what-probobly it"s amusing them. All the Dynamics didn"t exist before 2010, so they are 100% secure. And there was never a case of explosion anywhere except germany (and sweeden)... maybe they should give a second chance to Candy.
(Hope you understood what I wrote).
dave886
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@MrX
from what i remember back in the 90s hoovers washers used to be good buy it looks like their rep has been messed up by candy models as for hoover makes candy.
imagine that you put some clothes to wash and you walk away and you have kids running up and down and the washing machine explodes, words can't explain my reaction to that if i was ever to be in that position
from what i remember back in the 90s hoovers washers used to be good buy it looks like their rep has been messed up by candy models as for hoover makes candy.
imagine that you put some clothes to wash and you walk away and you have kids running up and down and the washing machine explodes, words can't explain my reaction to that if i was ever to be in that position
We've had the Aqualtis AQGD169S for 2 and a half years and it gave up completely today. The bearings went in the first year and the programming is shot. The bearings can't be replaced cause it's a sealed tub and that costs £200 and the control module is another £50. This is before vat and postage! Oh, and it gets used at least 7 times a week.
My opinion is if you want a nice looking washing machine that you use once/twice a week then I guess Hotpoint will fair pretty good....
... otherwise go for a Miele, Bosch or AEG. That's what we're going for next.
Cheers.
My opinion is if you want a nice looking washing machine that you use once/twice a week then I guess Hotpoint will fair pretty good....
... otherwise go for a Miele, Bosch or AEG. That's what we're going for next.
Cheers.
paulc
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Dave
If I were you I would go for a BOL Miele. I can do a 6kg 40deg cotton wash in 90 mins, so that equates to 12kg in 3 hours. Plus When Miele say 6kg, they mean it....I was suprised how big the drum on mine is compared to friends who have 6kg machines...also really suprised at how much laundry is in a true 6kg load!
If you really want a bigger capacity I would go for Beko, LG or Panasonic, all get really good reviews. I am not against the Aqualtis, in fact I nearly bought one before my Miele, I just think you can get more for your money with a differant machine.
If I were you I would go for a BOL Miele. I can do a 6kg 40deg cotton wash in 90 mins, so that equates to 12kg in 3 hours. Plus When Miele say 6kg, they mean it....I was suprised how big the drum on mine is compared to friends who have 6kg machines...also really suprised at how much laundry is in a true 6kg load!
If you really want a bigger capacity I would go for Beko, LG or Panasonic, all get really good reviews. I am not against the Aqualtis, in fact I nearly bought one before my Miele, I just think you can get more for your money with a differant machine.
solsburian
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Granted fires do happen to machines, ether due to the user not maintaining them properly, or due to defective components However, in the UK at least Candy is viewed with quite a bit of disdain, apparently the main reason for them buying Hoover was to get a foothold in the UK volume sales market.
Our new Hoover Washer Dryer is a pile of junk to be honest, it will quite happily spin with the load seriously unbalanced and now rattles likes there’s no tomorrow. Candy certainly are living up to their “in the gutter” reputation over here.
It’s very sad.
Our new Hoover Washer Dryer is a pile of junk to be honest, it will quite happily spin with the load seriously unbalanced and now rattles likes there’s no tomorrow. Candy certainly are living up to their “in the gutter” reputation over here.
It’s very sad.
dave886
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@paulc
i need a large capacity washer which will cut my washing by half, i think im going to give hotpoint a try because the 4generation version of aqualtis is ment to be really good, if not definately the top of the range LG, if any of you want to buy me a miele go ahead because they cost a bomb lol
i need a large capacity washer which will cut my washing by half, i think im going to give hotpoint a try because the 4generation version of aqualtis is ment to be really good, if not definately the top of the range LG, if any of you want to buy me a miele go ahead because they cost a bomb lol
hoover1100
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if any of you want to buy me a miele go ahead because they c
as does the top of the range LG...
Large capacity machines may seem good on the surface, but it's important to remember that just because it says it holds 8kg, 9kg etc doesn't mean you can actually fit that many clothes in. Suprisingly enough, they lie.
Also, many machines which claim to wash "9kg" do so by expecting you to cram the machine full to bursting then running endlessly long (3hour+) cycles. In this time you could have had 2 or more 6kg loads done in another machine, which would mean you're actually getting more washing done in a shorter length of time!
I'd say the best way to work out what is best for you is looking at the drum volumes and cycle lengths as a way of judging which machine will wash the most in the shortest amount of time.
Another consideration is do you really have enough washing to warrant a large capacity machine? A lot of people I know who have bought these machines simply don't have enough laundry to fill their machines, therefore end up either mixing colours and whites together (never a good idea) or washing smaller loads, therefore using more energy.
If you really do think a large capacity machine is the way to go for you, and you don't want to spend an absolute fortune, I'd personally go for a Bosch logixx or the 8kg Fagor. A Hotpoint Aqualtis would be a good choice, but I highly doubt you'd realistically be able to jam 9kg into it, maybe 7kg if you're lucky. Personally, I'd avoid Hoover/Candy like the plague, Beko wouldn't be such a bad choice though.
Matt[this post was last edited: 11/8/2010-10:55]
as does the top of the range LG...
Large capacity machines may seem good on the surface, but it's important to remember that just because it says it holds 8kg, 9kg etc doesn't mean you can actually fit that many clothes in. Suprisingly enough, they lie.
Also, many machines which claim to wash "9kg" do so by expecting you to cram the machine full to bursting then running endlessly long (3hour+) cycles. In this time you could have had 2 or more 6kg loads done in another machine, which would mean you're actually getting more washing done in a shorter length of time!
I'd say the best way to work out what is best for you is looking at the drum volumes and cycle lengths as a way of judging which machine will wash the most in the shortest amount of time.
Another consideration is do you really have enough washing to warrant a large capacity machine? A lot of people I know who have bought these machines simply don't have enough laundry to fill their machines, therefore end up either mixing colours and whites together (never a good idea) or washing smaller loads, therefore using more energy.
If you really do think a large capacity machine is the way to go for you, and you don't want to spend an absolute fortune, I'd personally go for a Bosch logixx or the 8kg Fagor. A Hotpoint Aqualtis would be a good choice, but I highly doubt you'd realistically be able to jam 9kg into it, maybe 7kg if you're lucky. Personally, I'd avoid Hoover/Candy like the plague, Beko wouldn't be such a bad choice though.
Matt[this post was last edited: 11/8/2010-10:55]
dave886
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do so by expecting you to cram the machine full to bursting
who ever crams there machine to full bursting must be a real donkey, why would you want to waste your investment then complain how the machine is not reliable, as for mixing colours with whites i could never do that, why would someone want to be wearing dull looking whites you will look like right tramp.
my friend had a bosch excel and it kept cutting out the electric when it was on a spin also kept over filling with water, personally i think they are ugly looking machines but im sure they have improved by now. thanks for your opinion
who ever crams there machine to full bursting must be a real donkey, why would you want to waste your investment then complain how the machine is not reliable, as for mixing colours with whites i could never do that, why would someone want to be wearing dull looking whites you will look like right tramp.
my friend had a bosch excel and it kept cutting out the electric when it was on a spin also kept over filling with water, personally i think they are ugly looking machines but im sure they have improved by now. thanks for your opinion
solsburian
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Our 6kg Hoover is more then enough for our needs. Interestingly over on the Italian Hotpoint-Ariston website they have a slim depth (43.6 cm) 6kg and standard depth 7kg Aqualtis.
UK Whitegoods also have some good info on Drum sizes:
http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=178
UK Whitegoods also have some good info on Drum sizes:
http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=178
About drum capacity...
Matt, what you say is right, but there are some things that aren"t that right actually.
Washer drums maybe hold 9kg overloaded, but those drums that claim 9kg are really bigger (not big enough for 9, but bigger).
Drums are more wide now, therefore bigger (as I said, still not enough for capacities they say).
I really noticed that when I got my GrandOPlus.. thought the dryer is broken, but then I realised I did washed more laundry in once (with avg. load).. so you can wash more
but still not as much as they claim you can
Matt, what you say is right, but there are some things that aren"t that right actually.
Washer drums maybe hold 9kg overloaded, but those drums that claim 9kg are really bigger (not big enough for 9, but bigger).
Drums are more wide now, therefore bigger (as I said, still not enough for capacities they say).
I really noticed that when I got my GrandOPlus.. thought the dryer is broken, but then I realised I did washed more laundry in once (with avg. load).. so you can wash more
but still not as much as they claim you can dave886
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aquacycle
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i agree with you 100% on that it may not be dead on 9kg but
My 6KG Miele holds more than my brothers 8kg Hotpoint Ultima
My 6KG Miele holds more than my brothers 8kg Hotpoint Ultima
dave886
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@My 6KG Miele holds more than my brothers 8kg Hotpoint Ultim
im not trying to be rude but personally i think your over exaggerating that one but i don't know, i think thats a statement you will have to prove
im not trying to be rude but personally i think your over exaggerating that one but i don't know, i think thats a statement you will have to prove
paulinroyton
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6kg drums
I agree with Paulc, my Miele HomeCare takes 6kg, yet the drum seems to be so big. I never overload my machine, but it seems to gobble up clothes.
The 7kg Aqualtis drum seems to be the same size as the 9kg drum.
Paul
I agree with Paulc, my Miele HomeCare takes 6kg, yet the drum seems to be so big. I never overload my machine, but it seems to gobble up clothes.
The 7kg Aqualtis drum seems to be the same size as the 9kg drum.
Paul
aquacycle
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i think thats a statement you will have to prove
Yeh, I'm really not going to say to my brother "can I pop over and run some comparison test on your washer?" - he'd tell me EXACTLY where to go lol.
Seriously though, having baby sat for my nephews and used the ultima very recently, I can fit slightly more in the Miele than I can the ultima. Not MUCH more, but I can squeeze that 1 last towel, or that 1 last bed sheet more in the Miele and it won't have any problems washing it to the same high standard it would if I had left it out.
Yeh, I'm really not going to say to my brother "can I pop over and run some comparison test on your washer?" - he'd tell me EXACTLY where to go lol.
Seriously though, having baby sat for my nephews and used the ultima very recently, I can fit slightly more in the Miele than I can the ultima. Not MUCH more, but I can squeeze that 1 last towel, or that 1 last bed sheet more in the Miele and it won't have any problems washing it to the same high standard it would if I had left it out.
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