Incandescent light bulb BAN goes into effect next week

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Night light bulbs have been available as LED for several years now, also my 2018 fridge uses LED lighting, and I have had an LED bulb in my dryer, that I replaced the incandescent one for about 7 years ago.

 

I do wonder about ovens too though, and microwaves.
 
Incandescent lightbulb, phase out

There’s no problem using LED bulbs in microwave ovens. Also, the bulbs under over the range. Microwave ovens are switching out to LEDs.

Lightbulbs inside ovens will continue to be incandescent and be readily available. You’re heating the oven with resistance electric heat anyway so the bulb is actually assisting the heating of the oven that’s really what incandescent lightbulbs are best at anyway is heating Lighting efficiency is very low with incandescent bulbs.

John.
 
 
"Specialty" incandescent bulbs will reasonably continue to be available for applications such an oven cavity where exposure to high temperatures is a factor.

I tried dimmable LED flood bulbs as a test in one of the auditoriums at the theater.  Didn't work with the electronic dimming system so I put them in the lobby.

I wonder, however, about halogen bulbs.  I have a couple puck-lights with three levels via a touchpad to illuminate chatchkas on a shelf above my family room TV.  One of the bulbs went out so I changed them both to LED bulbs which claim to be dimmable but the levels are erratic.  Low is medium, medium is high, high is barely visible.  My OTR microwave with high/low levels has halogen bulbs.
 
I can't believe there was this big push a while back to get everyone using fluorescent and compact fluorescents.
Those contain mercury.
And of course the compact ones, though they need special handling and disposal requirements, most people probably just throw them in the garbage.

I don't think there is any application remaining that fluorescent was doing that LEDs can't do better and in less space. It's just amazing.
 
I can live with this as long as it’s not mandatory as in backed by and conveyed by some gestapo patrolling every structure actively ordering bulbs taken out which are in an active use not yet ready to burn out and the LED’s replacing them be as ready to use and as bright, efficient and long-lasting as meeting these government standards as well as my own—ditto for that yellow-like, amberish glow we're so used to as well!

Someone should have raided Thomas Edison’s laboratory, then, a long time ago…

— Dave
 
Ban starts today

AFter 16 years of b.s.

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Dave, I have no doubt the FBI has you on top of their list. They're coming for any kind of incandescent bulb and will punish you big time. They'll also be confiscating all the potato chips and tubs of ice cream you've been hoarding. You're going to be blubbering like a pu..... on the side of the road when they're done with you.

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For normal people, it just means retailers can't sell most incandescent bulbs.

I wonder how this will play out on Ebay and the like with things like 1960s GE C7 or C9 Christmas light sets.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/01/business/incandescent-light-bulb-ban/index.html
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HID lamps can actually be more efficient than LED-in lumens per watt.Esp ceramic metal halide.Used by plant growers,some streetlights and indoor highbay lights.Also BETTER color quality than LED.Some LED lamps do allow you to adjust their color.That is something HID can't do-you have to change lamps.
 
Years ago....

......PG&E (our gas/electric provider) was subsidizing the cost CFL bulbs making them extremely inexpensive to purchase.
I bought a LARGE supply at the local hardware chain store (OSH) and still have MANY.
I am one to use things up before buying new so will most likely be using CFLs for many years to come.
I do have some LED bulbs (refrigerator, hanging light with candelabra bulbs, post lamp...) Christmas lights as well.
CFLs have presented some issues for me. When they fail, they tend to do so with smoke and burning smells.
CFLs also don't "play nice" with lighted wall switches. In a 3 way switch application, the CFL flashed on and off when it was turned off so I had to replace it with an incandescent bulb.
On the flip side, LED bulbs require compatible dimmers and don't work well with "old school" dimmers.
 
LED lights in ovens

They are a thing.
Most upper end models now have them over here.

They require certain heat sinking systems to be included to keep the LED temps in check - but they even survive self cleaning, so.

Biggest difference there is that the chips themselves can get quite hot if rated for it, thus, these from factory solutions just let that part get hot-ish.
Removing the driving circuit from the actual LED chips means that you can cool the driving electronics with the rest of the electronics somewhere in the system. The chip itself can survive 200F, and you can keep it there quite easily.
Keep in mind cool touch doors exist and aren't particularly thick either.

On another note, we have a large low voltage lamp installation in our house back home.
Used to be halogen - total about 300W. You'd hear the transformer with its nice 50Hz humm.

Replaced all of them with LEDs last year because we wouldn't even turn it on because of how much it used.
It's now a tenth of the power with the same lighting quality.
 
I never liked the curly fluorescent ones. Some brands took 1/2 second after flipping switch to light up. Doesn't sound like much but annoyed me when your used to incandescent bulbs instant on. But the bigger problem was using them in cold environments like garages in the winter. Those things would take a minute or more to reach full brightness, and when all you wanted to do was step out for a minute, you couldn't see anything. Plus the mercury issue..good riddance to those things. I just try and make sure the LEDs I buy are 2700-3000 Kelvin for warm white incandescent color inside my home.
 
There are few things    I hate more than CFLs. Hate the flat diffuse quality of their light output. Also hate some LEDs that have that flat light. Much prefer focused lighting in the home.
 
@tolivac: Remember Venture's formed arc tub pulse start metal halides? Those gave the best white light I've ever seen by far at exceptional lumens per what with great lumen maintenance. Like better than daylight. Color were edible, the air was like whine.

 

 

A lot of LEDs are over driven and get progressively dimmer as they age.
 

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