Maytag Commercial Washer MVWP575GW Warranty Repair
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panasonicvac
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I'm aware that Amana and Roper are both owned by Whirlpool.
I will admit, they both look like they can clean well. In fact since reading the last replies from above, I went to watch some videos of them in action. I was actually impressed with the performance. BUT, I would want something that not only cleans well but also last a very long time. Other than just washing and drying clothes, I've never taken apart a washer before. I have with a dryer before but that's just for cleaning lint out. As of now, I would be a bit uncomfortable taking apart a washer for repairing. I would really be bothered if either the Amana or the Roper would break on me within a few years of use as well as trying to repair either one. For the price that it's worth, I don't think I would want to waste as much for having a repair technician come over and fix it cause I could just buy another same washer for almost the same price. And I'd also rather not want to replace it with another one for multiple of reasons.
Anyways, I think I'm all in with going for the SQ TC5 and DC5 if it would still be around by the time I'm ready for my own set which I seriously hope that it will.
I will admit, they both look like they can clean well. In fact since reading the last replies from above, I went to watch some videos of them in action. I was actually impressed with the performance. BUT, I would want something that not only cleans well but also last a very long time. Other than just washing and drying clothes, I've never taken apart a washer before. I have with a dryer before but that's just for cleaning lint out. As of now, I would be a bit uncomfortable taking apart a washer for repairing. I would really be bothered if either the Amana or the Roper would break on me within a few years of use as well as trying to repair either one. For the price that it's worth, I don't think I would want to waste as much for having a repair technician come over and fix it cause I could just buy another same washer for almost the same price. And I'd also rather not want to replace it with another one for multiple of reasons.
Anyways, I think I'm all in with going for the SQ TC5 and DC5 if it would still be around by the time I'm ready for my own set which I seriously hope that it will.
Maytag MVWP575
This MT washer that I mentioned earlier in this thread has eaten another transmission and will now be scraped in just over 4 years, the customer does not want to spend the labor to replace it again, also WP does not have any transmissions available anyway and they do not want to wait.
These MTs are not much better than the $500 Ropers and Amanas, WPs etc.
When you consider that a SQ TL washer is only twice a much it really is the best value and when you consider the operating cost + twice the life span the SQ FL washer at around $1800 is the best value + SUPERIOR performance compared to any of these flimsy light weight TL washers.
John L.
This MT washer that I mentioned earlier in this thread has eaten another transmission and will now be scraped in just over 4 years, the customer does not want to spend the labor to replace it again, also WP does not have any transmissions available anyway and they do not want to wait.
These MTs are not much better than the $500 Ropers and Amanas, WPs etc.
When you consider that a SQ TL washer is only twice a much it really is the best value and when you consider the operating cost + twice the life span the SQ FL washer at around $1800 is the best value + SUPERIOR performance compared to any of these flimsy light weight TL washers.
John L.
pinkpower4
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I agree that this Maytag mvwp575gw is not made as well as the old models were and do not think it is a true commercial quality for that reason. I would be curious how the machine referred to was used and what/how much detergent, bleach, etc. were used for the loads. Honestly, the only issues like this (extremely short life and major failures) I have seen have been reported by a few on this board.
I agree that this Maytag mvwp575gw design is not as made as well as Maytag’s older models, but no manufacturer models are. Speed Queen comes the closest to their old models with its TC5, but even it has two control boards.
There are some issues here that need to be resolved. One is these ridiculous DOE requirements. At least this model still clean clothes and I can get around the one real quirk, which is no tap hot for the ONLY smaller load cycle. Not having tap hot available for the loads that require it in any model means more chemicals have to be used to achieve a similar result. There also needs to be an auto level water that works or a water level selector added to this model. MORE water is used at time instead of less because of this oversight. The ATC is a gimmick (just adjust your faucets if needed) and so are those control boards to satisfy these new regulations. It is also annoying for the tub to fill by switching back and forth from hot to cold. The only reason they do this is because of that unnecessary ATC sensor. Control boards and sensors cost more money so they had to find another way to cut costs because many consumers cannot or are not willing to pay $1K for a washer. I do think the cheaper build quality is more of trying to sell to the uneducated masses who would rather pay less initially. I don’t necessarily think it’s great for our environment to have to buy two or three washers for about the same price as one, but it is what it is.
I personally would have preferred the TC5 for the main cycles being available as half loads, no ATC, and tap hot for all of those cycles. It wasn’t available when I made my choice, and the price for that model ranges from $1K to about $1400 from the places I can get it from. Also, I don’t think the extra price for the matching dryer is justified. If the TR series is the only model that is available again later when I have to make my choice, I still will NOT buy it. I would rather have clean clothes and replace the washer more often because that is the choice *I* will have for the types of laundry I do.
However, I do think I will get at least ten years out of this Maytag model when properly used for residential use (although that will probably include a few minor repairs). I think I would get 15 to 20 years out of the TC5 IF the bearings last that long. I’ve said this many times. Consumers do not have access to the parts for cost and often cannot do the repairs themselves. Part of the “disposable” appliances is because of what repair people charge to fix them. Some also got this washer while they had the ten year parts and labor guarantee, but the consumer purchasing this model today only gets a three-year warranty.
This Maytag comes with a five year parts and labor warranty and has upgraded parts compared to their commercial technology line. This is a lot cheaper and more convenient than going to the laundry mat. In my opinion, it is still the overall best cleaning washer and the second best overall washer. If you don’t want or need the included warranty and use it properly, I think the Roper and Amana models with a dual action agitator would work well too. My advice to others is take the time to get your information from several sources and make the best decision based on your needs. Unfortunately, budget and availability will be a factor too.
I agree that this Maytag mvwp575gw design is not as made as well as Maytag’s older models, but no manufacturer models are. Speed Queen comes the closest to their old models with its TC5, but even it has two control boards.
There are some issues here that need to be resolved. One is these ridiculous DOE requirements. At least this model still clean clothes and I can get around the one real quirk, which is no tap hot for the ONLY smaller load cycle. Not having tap hot available for the loads that require it in any model means more chemicals have to be used to achieve a similar result. There also needs to be an auto level water that works or a water level selector added to this model. MORE water is used at time instead of less because of this oversight. The ATC is a gimmick (just adjust your faucets if needed) and so are those control boards to satisfy these new regulations. It is also annoying for the tub to fill by switching back and forth from hot to cold. The only reason they do this is because of that unnecessary ATC sensor. Control boards and sensors cost more money so they had to find another way to cut costs because many consumers cannot or are not willing to pay $1K for a washer. I do think the cheaper build quality is more of trying to sell to the uneducated masses who would rather pay less initially. I don’t necessarily think it’s great for our environment to have to buy two or three washers for about the same price as one, but it is what it is.
I personally would have preferred the TC5 for the main cycles being available as half loads, no ATC, and tap hot for all of those cycles. It wasn’t available when I made my choice, and the price for that model ranges from $1K to about $1400 from the places I can get it from. Also, I don’t think the extra price for the matching dryer is justified. If the TR series is the only model that is available again later when I have to make my choice, I still will NOT buy it. I would rather have clean clothes and replace the washer more often because that is the choice *I* will have for the types of laundry I do.
However, I do think I will get at least ten years out of this Maytag model when properly used for residential use (although that will probably include a few minor repairs). I think I would get 15 to 20 years out of the TC5 IF the bearings last that long. I’ve said this many times. Consumers do not have access to the parts for cost and often cannot do the repairs themselves. Part of the “disposable” appliances is because of what repair people charge to fix them. Some also got this washer while they had the ten year parts and labor guarantee, but the consumer purchasing this model today only gets a three-year warranty.
This Maytag comes with a five year parts and labor warranty and has upgraded parts compared to their commercial technology line. This is a lot cheaper and more convenient than going to the laundry mat. In my opinion, it is still the overall best cleaning washer and the second best overall washer. If you don’t want or need the included warranty and use it properly, I think the Roper and Amana models with a dual action agitator would work well too. My advice to others is take the time to get your information from several sources and make the best decision based on your needs. Unfortunately, budget and availability will be a factor too.
Many washers nowadays seem to do it, but alternating between full hot and full cold on the fill process instead of mixing hot and cold together directly in the flume is clearly a bad design. Some types of delicate items should not be exposed to a full-hot water spray.
MVWP575 MT Washer Failures
The machine I mentioned in reply # 92 they decided to fix after all , it took almost 2 months for WP to get us a transmission.
This is the 2nd transmission with stripped gears and the shafts were so rusty that it also stripped out the plastic drive hub.
All WP built TL washers since 2010 with belt drive are not great machines and are usually not worth repairing.
Pictures of the 2nd failed transmission in the MT MVWP575 in less than 3 years.
John L.
The machine I mentioned in reply # 92 they decided to fix after all , it took almost 2 months for WP to get us a transmission.
This is the 2nd transmission with stripped gears and the shafts were so rusty that it also stripped out the plastic drive hub.
All WP built TL washers since 2010 with belt drive are not great machines and are usually not worth repairing.
Pictures of the 2nd failed transmission in the MT MVWP575 in less than 3 years.
John L.
lakewebsterkid
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Water retention
When they are stating the value of 101% water retention, I am assuming they mean 101% more weight in the clothing versus when it was dry just before starting the load. So 8 pounds of towels before would weight ~16.1 pounds, so roughly a gallon of water remaining? Thats horrible. BUT, I do not trust Reviewed.coms testing procedures and results. They are nearly all over the place. Plus, now that they leave out the 'Science Results' page, I really do not take their info into consideration. Plus, when they test dishwashers they will find significantly different results between otherwise exact machines. Not confidence inspiring.
When they are stating the value of 101% water retention, I am assuming they mean 101% more weight in the clothing versus when it was dry just before starting the load. So 8 pounds of towels before would weight ~16.1 pounds, so roughly a gallon of water remaining? Thats horrible. BUT, I do not trust Reviewed.coms testing procedures and results. They are nearly all over the place. Plus, now that they leave out the 'Science Results' page, I really do not take their info into consideration. Plus, when they test dishwashers they will find significantly different results between otherwise exact machines. Not confidence inspiring.
101%
Yeah, that is what that means.
Ugh, really depends.
Cotton's spun at 800rpm in a EU FL are said to be 70%
Yeah, that is what that means.
Ugh, really depends.
Cotton's spun at 800rpm in a EU FL are said to be 70%
Someone will correct if wrong ...
1) I believe this piece (pictured upside down?) is part of the rotation & speed sensing process.
2) (bottom of the transmission) The mode shifter mounts to the bottom and has an optical reader that fits up into one of the slots (don't recall which) and around edge of the cog, monitors via the notches the rotation and speed of the transmission during spin ... keeps the lid locked until rotation stop.
Speed Sensing
Thats probably it! I'm curious to know if the techs agree. And John, I'd like to see more pics of the DW underneath the last transmission you replaced.
Thats probably it! I'm curious to know if the techs agree. And John, I'd like to see more pics of the DW underneath the last transmission you replaced.
Yes that's the speed sensing wheel.
The DW was a MT RR belt drive, it came in with a broken belt, it was a fairly basic model in good condition.
It has now been crushed for scrap metal,
John L.
The DW was a MT RR belt drive, it came in with a broken belt, it was a fairly basic model in good condition.
It has now been crushed for scrap metal,
John L.
John, quite trolling "came with a broken belt, good condition, but crushed" You kill the spirit of this forum. I'd have gladly taken it in despite not doing thermal holds and needing 140-150*F hot water which I know you will use as an excuse not to rebuild and re-sell. Along with the classical "these were never good performing machines, what was Maytag thinking, lol"
Quite Trolling ???
If you want to come out of the appliance closet I will be happy to give you [ or anyone else ] any of the appliances we are sending for recycling .
I see over 100 appliances recycled every WEEK, we still see center dial MTs, GE FFS , WP-KM BD machines, and more porcelain tub KAs than I can even think about. Along with tons of cool newer stuff.
John L.
If you want to come out of the appliance closet I will be happy to give you [ or anyone else ] any of the appliances we are sending for recycling .
I see over 100 appliances recycled every WEEK, we still see center dial MTs, GE FFS , WP-KM BD machines, and more porcelain tub KAs than I can even think about. Along with tons of cool newer stuff.
John L.
Whirlpool should have never bothered with those crappy belt drive HE washers that don’t even hold up. Surprised there hasn’t been any class action lawsuits against Whirlpool for making machines that are unreliable, and don’t work as well as the proven direct drive washers.
Appliance closet? Not sure what closet you're talking about. Or that one even exists besides hiding my mechanical interests from most people.
Anyway, I'd start taking pictures and putting them up for offer before scrapping them. A week or as the dumpster is filling would be enough. You're area has some of the best stuff.
What about GE dishwashers? I know condos around here are next to Louisville's appliance park lol.
Anyway, I'd start taking pictures and putting them up for offer before scrapping them. A week or as the dumpster is filling would be enough. You're area has some of the best stuff.
What about GE dishwashers? I know condos around here are next to Louisville's appliance park lol.
The disposal issue has been discussed for years. There are repeated instances of someone offering a notable machine and no takers ... for varying reasons such as distance, no workable transport method, lack of space, etc.
It would make a museum of sorts. I'd love to see weekly update's of John's pile, and machines in good shape with money shots. The pics alone have value for me. Unique models, memories, a tally of what was common for that area, ect. Plus I'd love to see a machine and ask about it. Or have it set aside should I get serious about pickup.
I think John should make a Washarama type website. I'd be happy to make the captions
I think John should make a Washarama type website. I'd be happy to make the captions
Junking appliances
The volume in which those of us in the business go through appliances is quite frankly mind blowing. I’m a small shop and I process more than 150 appliances per month. I could buy another that many but no space.
Like john, I too have passed on many wonderful machines just due to lack of space. Giving away a machine here is not always guaranteed. As mentioned above there are logistical issues etc.
The volume in which those of us in the business go through appliances is quite frankly mind blowing. I’m a small shop and I process more than 150 appliances per month. I could buy another that many but no space.
Like john, I too have passed on many wonderful machines just due to lack of space. Giving away a machine here is not always guaranteed. As mentioned above there are logistical issues etc.
I have passed up on quite a few older Maytag A806 sets and belt drives sets but I think there’s a reason for that and if I got those sets I wouldn’t have ended up with my 1963 RCA Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII set I picked up back in July of this year. One of THE nicest sets I’ve acquired so far and I’d post a picture but I’ve already posted a bunch of photos of it so far.
pinkpower4
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Maytag mvwp575gw
I’ve had my Maytag mvwp575gw for about 2.5 years now with no issues so far. I’d be curious to know a little more about how that machine John did the second repair in such a short time is being used.
I am careful not to overload, use the correct amount of detergent, occasional bleach, and at least one tap hot load every week. For that to rust, it seems like there is not a good seal somewhere or maybe harsh chemicals are being used?
If I get ten years out of it, I’d be happy. Sad that my expectations have been reduced to that as the old ones would easily have lasted me 15 to 20 years (family) maybe more with lighter use over the years (single person or couple).
I keep watching the new stuff coming out. So far Laundry Alternative have caught my interest the most as what looks like it may be simple, basic, and work for my future needs.
I’ve had my Maytag mvwp575gw for about 2.5 years now with no issues so far. I’d be curious to know a little more about how that machine John did the second repair in such a short time is being used.
I am careful not to overload, use the correct amount of detergent, occasional bleach, and at least one tap hot load every week. For that to rust, it seems like there is not a good seal somewhere or maybe harsh chemicals are being used?
If I get ten years out of it, I’d be happy. Sad that my expectations have been reduced to that as the old ones would easily have lasted me 15 to 20 years (family) maybe more with lighter use over the years (single person or couple).
I keep watching the new stuff coming out. So far Laundry Alternative have caught my interest the most as what looks like it may be simple, basic, and work for my future needs.
150 is not a whole lot. Take a picture of the good/rare stuff. Put them in the dumpster last. I wouldn't hold it for more than a week unless special conditions applied.
If I was near Alco I'd gladly volunteer to take pics of the stuff ready for scrap.
If I was near Alco I'd gladly volunteer to take pics of the stuff ready for scrap.
Yeahbut, you're apparently not in the area ... which is the point of the distance and accessibility factor, right? Perhaps you could move/relocate?
Or rent a place and work at Alco. I'd love to see all the appliances in the Maryland/Delaware metro areas.
Maytag commercial at lowe's
I saw the new Maytag Commercial at Lowe's. They felt cheap on the inside. The only thing that felt sturdy was the cabinet and belt.
I saw the new Maytag Commercial at Lowe's. They felt cheap on the inside. The only thing that felt sturdy was the cabinet and belt.
pinkpower4
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I have the Maytag mvwp575gw and now the TC5.
Maytag 575 has been without issues now for four years used for a family with pets. It is probably the second best build residential top load that can be bought (although the GE Commercial may be similar). It is very similar to the TC5 in what most people see and can test from the outside with the exception of the suspension. It is a hung suspension. The plastic outer basket is attached by rods to the four corners of the machine. For that reason the tub does move around. I have not had any issues balancing loads when like items are washed. If you want to wash an odd-sized item, balance it with something of equal size and weight. It really is that simple. Included in the price is a five year in-home parts and labor warranty. Much cheaper, cleaner, and more convenient than going to a laundry mat.
Where the TC5 feels sturdier is the suspension. It has a metal outer tub attached. Heavy-duty springs attach the bottom of the tub to the base.
The other issue not so easy to see is the difference in the gear case versus a real transmission.
With either washer, it is likely that most retire the washer at the point the gear case/bearings (Maytag) or bearings (SQ TC5) go out. One thing to note is there are videos that show changing a gear case and transmission out. Changing a gear case out seems much simpler. And guess what? It looks like it's easier to do the bearings too because the gearcase/bearings seems to be one part on the Maytag. That is interesting. Although I probably will not replace this when mine goes out as I won't have a need for two washers then, I plan to keep this washer in storage in case I cannot repair the SQ later and ECO restrictions have gotten worse.
In some places, the SQ TC5 is selling for $500 or $600 more than the Maytag 575. Most who take care of the Maytag are likely to see about 8-10 years possibly with a few inexpensive and minor repairs. Most who take care of the SQ TC5 are likely to see about 12-15 years possibly with a belt replacement. These are the numbers I see when browsing consumer boards and not boards like this where people can get parts for costs and know how to repair major issues themselves.
While the Maytag may not last as long, there may be a significant difference in cost making the Maytag a more attractive option for the family that is on a limited budget that needs something to work now and in the near future. The Speed Queen TC5 does have some more options for smaller loads, and that is why it may work better for a single person, couple, or family that needs the small load option. It also should have less frequent repairs. Though they are minor in the Maytag, some may not be able to do the repairs themselves. In some areas, the TC5 is not available or you have to be put on a waiting list.
This is what is sold today. Posts saying the Maytag is
Maytag 575 has been without issues now for four years used for a family with pets. It is probably the second best build residential top load that can be bought (although the GE Commercial may be similar). It is very similar to the TC5 in what most people see and can test from the outside with the exception of the suspension. It is a hung suspension. The plastic outer basket is attached by rods to the four corners of the machine. For that reason the tub does move around. I have not had any issues balancing loads when like items are washed. If you want to wash an odd-sized item, balance it with something of equal size and weight. It really is that simple. Included in the price is a five year in-home parts and labor warranty. Much cheaper, cleaner, and more convenient than going to a laundry mat.
Where the TC5 feels sturdier is the suspension. It has a metal outer tub attached. Heavy-duty springs attach the bottom of the tub to the base.
The other issue not so easy to see is the difference in the gear case versus a real transmission.
With either washer, it is likely that most retire the washer at the point the gear case/bearings (Maytag) or bearings (SQ TC5) go out. One thing to note is there are videos that show changing a gear case and transmission out. Changing a gear case out seems much simpler. And guess what? It looks like it's easier to do the bearings too because the gearcase/bearings seems to be one part on the Maytag. That is interesting. Although I probably will not replace this when mine goes out as I won't have a need for two washers then, I plan to keep this washer in storage in case I cannot repair the SQ later and ECO restrictions have gotten worse.
In some places, the SQ TC5 is selling for $500 or $600 more than the Maytag 575. Most who take care of the Maytag are likely to see about 8-10 years possibly with a few inexpensive and minor repairs. Most who take care of the SQ TC5 are likely to see about 12-15 years possibly with a belt replacement. These are the numbers I see when browsing consumer boards and not boards like this where people can get parts for costs and know how to repair major issues themselves.
While the Maytag may not last as long, there may be a significant difference in cost making the Maytag a more attractive option for the family that is on a limited budget that needs something to work now and in the near future. The Speed Queen TC5 does have some more options for smaller loads, and that is why it may work better for a single person, couple, or family that needs the small load option. It also should have less frequent repairs. Though they are minor in the Maytag, some may not be able to do the repairs themselves. In some areas, the TC5 is not available or you have to be put on a waiting list.
This is what is sold today. Posts saying the Maytag is
pinkpower4
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continued
"cheap" can keep a consumer from purchasing a washer that actually cleans clothes.
I would still purchase a Maytag 575 washer over a Speed Queen TR series (the agitub) even if the Maytag has to be replaced more often and would cost more in the long run. I value clean clothes. The Maytag 575 simply is a better choice for our family based on the type of loads we have.
"cheap" can keep a consumer from purchasing a washer that actually cleans clothes.
I would still purchase a Maytag 575 washer over a Speed Queen TR series (the agitub) even if the Maytag has to be replaced more often and would cost more in the long run. I value clean clothes. The Maytag 575 simply is a better choice for our family based on the type of loads we have.
<blockquote>The only thing that felt sturdy was the cabinet and belt.</blockquote> Jerome, you turned the display machine over to get a hands-on examination of the belt?
maytag 576
Yes. I tilted the machine to get a feel of what the undercarriage was like. It looked just like the 575. I saw it at Lowe's.
Yes. I tilted the machine to get a feel of what the undercarriage was like. It looked just like the 575. I saw it at Lowe's.
Removable Front Panel On MT Commercial Models
Is just a sales gimmick, there is nothing you can really service with the front off and these models have a crappy frame because the front comes off and a lot of sharp edges of steel that will rust.
The one piece models are more rigid, These VMW machines are so light it is simple to just pull them away from the wall about 18" and tilt the machine back against the wall and replace or service anything under it.
On the models with the removable front I never brother to take the front off for repairs, its just more work.
John L.
Is just a sales gimmick, there is nothing you can really service with the front off and these models have a crappy frame because the front comes off and a lot of sharp edges of steel that will rust.
The one piece models are more rigid, These VMW machines are so light it is simple to just pull them away from the wall about 18" and tilt the machine back against the wall and replace or service anything under it.
On the models with the removable front I never brother to take the front off for repairs, its just more work.
John L.
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