moffat cooker

[peterlondon]

Hi all,just discovered this place,and like a good book I cant put it down.
I recently bought a moffat 4633 ceramic free standing cooker.I was really after one with radiant rings but they never seem to come up.
The top is white ceramic,but now a bit manky.I have tried 3672 million products to try and bring it back to life but to no avail.
I just love this huge cooker and have been trying to get more info,but nothing seems to be listed,can anybody help?

 

[vacbear58]

Hello back from South London

Hi Peter
And welcome to automaticwasher.

How lucky you are to have the Moffat cooker, I have been on the look out for one of these for YEARS - they do occasionally come up on ebay but generally have been too far away or too expensive (or both) to make it worth while. I take it yours is the Fiesta 24 with the black drop down oven door? Or is it the Fiesta 21 with stainless doors and the second oven under the hob?

Are you a baker? What is the oven like? And have you ever used the rotesserie?

I am not sure there will be that much you can do at this stage, it must be 35+ years old. I presume you will have tried Hob Brite with an abrasive sponge? NOT a Brillo pad!

For US members how might have some ideas on restoration this is a Corning white smooth top (or ceramic as we call it) range. Hob Brite is a proprietry cleaner for this sort of top - any other ideas? remember we will not have many of teh proprietry cleaners that you have in the US.

Al

 

[retro-man]

A good cleaner that works great on porcelan or corning ware type surfaces is just basic baking soda. Use a damp to wet cloth and rub the baking soda onto the surface with a little pressure. Will not scratch the surface then just rinse off, may take a few treatments but I have cleaned years of grime off from old stoves doing this.
Jon

 

[peterlondon]

Moffat

Wow,How quick was that!Thanks for the welcome al.
I bought this stove for the huge amount of £4.25 on ebay in june.I wanted to theme a retro kitchen and when this came up I knew I was gonna have it.straight into the back of the volvo and home I came.It does have a black drop down door at the bottom,and a stainless door on the top oven.Unfortunatly It did not have the rotis parts with it nor the temp probe,but I had the stove!
After checking the wiring I took 6 vallium and a large gin and connected,no bang so that was a good start eh!
all but the clock works.I have not been able to find any info on this cooker at all.My mum had more or less the same cooker but it had radiant rings and the element for the oven was at the bottom,not at the sides like this one. I did see there was another model with a ss top.now I am wondering if I could chnange to top somehow.I do a fair amount of baking,and the large oven is great for this,although for roasting I have found difficult because I been used to a fan oven.
I always wanted a flair,but of course not available here.One day when I have saved enough sheckles I can ship one here,they run on 230v so should work.

 

[vacbear58]

More Moffats

Peter

You lucky bugger! I watch ebay regularly and I dont know how I missed it. I well remember both this cooker, I always wished i could persuade my parents to get one, but there are some battles you can never win. Apart from the built in version of this oven, the free-standing vesion you have would by my "must have" although I must say I would wave my induction hob good bye with a heavy heart. Your mum's would have been the earlier Canadian built version (probably about 10 years earlier) hence the heating element on the floor rather than the sides of the oven as we in the Uk were familiar with at that time.

I am wondering about the clock, its digital (not digital display but rotating numbers) isn't it?

One thing I have often considered when thinking about such a cooker is the possibality of replacing the whole top with a piece of stainless steel (I am sort of in that business and it would not be that hard) with a cut out to accept an induction. The cooker hob controls would be useless of course, but to me its the best of both worlds. I know what you mean about fan ovens as well, it is my preference too.

No neeed to give up on a Flair style cooker either, as you will see in the attached advertisment Moffat imported one of those too. Now the chances of finding one might be marginal, but I have seen the wide range on the right on ebay about 15 months or so ago so they might still be around.

The retro themed kicthen sounds interesting, I would love to do something like that myself, but for my small kicthen it is not really possible at the moment. Any chances of some pictures? have you managed to track down any other vintage appliances for it?

Al

Pardon our interruption...

 

[peterlondon]

More moffs

Hi Al,I saw that stove myself and even went as far as getting a quote to get it here (Hackney East Lon)But when I came to my senses,I knew that it woult not fit,I to have a very small kitchen.I was thinking about replacing the top myself with a radiant hob
(european with seperate control board) so I could still use the switches. I did not think about fitting induction,I had one in my last place,was great,it surely is an idea.I really do want to save this moff and make sure I get many more years out of it by updating it a tad if poss.(also toying with a jackson ceramic of roughly same age on ebay now)I have got a few bits,a 60's swan siren kettle,the obligatory russell hobbs K2 3 russell hobbs cp1 percs.(don't ask!) two swan 40's? stainless percs,and my favourite 40's or 50's hamilton beach stainless mixer with two bowls no less! (american but on 220) and finally, my kenwood chef A701.Not great with pc's did try and put pics on but not sure how,but will keep trying

 

[petek]

Anyone else have pics of this stove you're both talking about. It sounds interesting. I never knew Moffat exported stoves to the UK so I'm left wondering where these designs that weren't available in Canada, just for export?

 

[vacbear58]

Even more Moffs

Pete

The particular stove we are talking about was made in the UK - I have pics at home which I can load later. You will see examples of the earlier Canadian sourched models in the link above.

Peter
Is that the Jackson with the Buy It Now of £200? I saw that myself, but not at that price. Even the starting bid is a bit OTT at £100 Unfortunatly I do not have a Volvo and I aint strapping a cooker to the roof of my car LOLOLOLOLOL. And actually I may have even seen the Moffat (was in in a church hall or something?) but by the time I hire a van and the cost of the petrol it would just pushed the price too far.

Actually the current cooker may be a Creda rather than Jackson - just a change in name, otherwise the same - I believe there was also a fan oven version of this (Circulaire) as well. I came across the radient ring version of the Jackson/Creda a few months ago when I picked up a vintage Hoover tumble drier but unfortunatly they weren't selling it - shame as the whole kitchen was more or less a 70s capsule.

Great to hear about the small appliances too, I have a few of those myself and even a HB mixer (along with about 40 or so other mixers) - you will find many on here share similar interests. Now, we just need to fix you up with a nice vintage vacuum and a twin tub and you are all set .......

Al

PS I am in Tooting/Colliers Wood area of SW London

 

[vacbear58]

Putting pics on

Peter

Its really easy.

Under the message composition box there is a "greyed out" box - "Upload JPEG Format Picture to share in message:". Click on the browse button and literally browse to the folder on your computer where any pictures you want to load are located, and select the photo - you can only load one at a time and there must also be some text in both the subject drift box and message composition box.

Al

 

[westie2]

A question I have with this cooktop does it need tohave the Corning ware pots and pans to cook correctly.  We had a 1980 Amanna cook top that 3 of the Hobs (elements) required the Corning Ware and only 1 that would let us use a metal pot/pan.  Had friedns that had a Corning cook top and it did require the Corning flat pots and pans.

 

 

 

[peterlondon]

Moffat

Here are a few pics of the moffplus a few appliances

 

[peterlondon]

Moffat

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[peterlondon]

moff

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[peterlondon]

moff

Sorry about the pot guys,making jewush penicilan (chicken soup)
I have a hoover 612 which had a casualty to the top,this however works fine,good motor and roller,I dont want it now so up for grabs to a good home or for parts.
Here are a few more bit
pete

 

[peterlondon]

hb mixer

And my Hamilton beach

 

[peterlondon]

moff

Forgot what I was doing now!soo, have the vac which I don't want (and going free)
and as for a twin tub..altho I could open business doin bag washes (and I don't think)I want a keymatic with a chrome door,or bedix I think 7147 with matching dryer,but then what for dishwasher? I have a hotpoint now.
The cooker is faster than the mod one I changed it for,only bum is the clock,as the minute minder is so handy.phoned e-spares to see if I could buy rotiss bits and temp robe.Of course not..bummer Al I saw that moffat too,it was in in a scouts hall or such like,and went for £80.00.mine came from Hornchurch Essex.

 

[peterlondon]

moffat cleaner

Thank you jon,did try that but I guess given this is 30+ years old it's just finished.I even tried caustic soda,did'nt do anything,but the fumes gave me a cheap day out!

Westie,this top works with any pans.

Anyways,some restoration to be done here,the grill door and a re-paint,then something about the manky top....

 

[westie2]

Yes when I saw the pressure coooker on it I know had to be able to take all pots and pans.  Thanks for the reply.

 

That is one good looking cooker you have.  Love you mixer and coffee makers too.  And welcome to AW.ORG

 

Charles

 

[aquarius1984]

Hello Peter,

Well done, im very impressed. My aunty Carole had one of these when I was a kid but hers had Radiant rings, Under hob Grill Cavity with brushed? stainless steel/brushed aluminium? panel and a lower oven door with a black panel.

To be unfair to it, the darn thing used to frighten me something stupid, would never be alone in the kitchen with it. God knows why but to some degree they stil put shivers down my spine when I see one. Dont think it was anything to do with size or style as my Mum had a Leisure Five Star Auto MK III to give it the full anme LOL which was similar in appearance I suppose with lots of black glass panels, chrome and stainless steel.

I can only imagine its got something to do with the dials which I was none to keen on as they had a tendency to catch the street light outside my aunts kitchen and glow with reflection looking sinister to a 5 year old.

Well enough about that, glad one has made it to a good home, just slightly amused that you have a first edition Hotpoint washer, my aunt had a Hotpoint 9514 (Economy Wash/Half Load) at the same time as this cooker. Your machine would of been a similar level machine compared to hers. Irrelevant but amusing if you get my drift.

Yes a nice 70s machine would look brill, I can reccomend the Hotpoint 1828 if you should ever find one lolololol.