Saddam Hussein~ executed!!

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sudsdudeshane

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That creep got his just due..I am liberal on most issues but when it comes to crime, I am very conservative. Saddam got what he deserved ,however I am afraid Iraq will get only worse because of this.
Lets pray 2007 brings closure to this mess of a war and our brave troops including my dear cousin home safely!

Peace out friends
 
Perc...I confess I was a bit upset with you when you mentioned something about my seeming indifferent to human life. I was provoked because I'd been talking about someone who was dead and gone already, couldn't (and probably wouldn't) choose to come back, and had lived to a ripe old age and went to meet his reward. Also, it was predictable as Armageddon that a "Saddam Swings" glee thread was imminent and I was pretty positive no one would take anyone to task for those sorts of comments either.

On the other hand, I also felt it was entirely possible that you were overtly expressing annoyance with me, but covertly (and possibly unintentionally) also expressing frustration with other posters who make strong statements that are inflammatory
as well.

You've always been kind and decent to me on the board as well.

Whatever. That's life.

Sometimes, you're the pigeon. Sometimes, you're the statue.

My take on what you've said? I know it is innate to want people you care about (or, even, those you put up with) to settle down, and learn to go along to get along.

But these are tumultuous times. There is great vexation with the status quo.

I believe that the age of tolerance and multiculturalism, as they are currently defined, are coming to a close. People have had it up to their necks with having tolerance and multiculturalism forced down their throats (whether real or imagined).

When I speak powerfully and forcefully for or against an issue, I'm really not trying to teach anything. But there are times when I see misconceptions, foolishness and a willingness to believe and be manipulated based on misinformation and distortions, I HAVE to speak up.

I too once lived in a place called Howard Beach, where is was not advisable to speak out against things that people did toward one another. I saw, and felt, and witnessed the price of false honor, and the psychic pain over time. The rate of drug abuse, domestic violence, robberies, etc. rivalled that of a notorious slum that was a few minutes away by car.

Many aspects of life in the former East Germany were like that as well, although the negative aspects of that particular situation at least ground to a screeching halt. And not, as some "dignitaries" like to claim, because of their forbearance...but because ordinary citizens of conscience overcame the spirit of fear and marched, and screamed, and stood up against injustice.

It won't work, for people to be tiptoeing around one another. Either I will have to leave, or other people will have to leave, or we'll have to devise new ways of communicating with one another and getting our points across effectively, and learning to listen without prejudice.

And that takes time.

My email is not a secret. After the last round, I haven't heard from anybody, which to me was an indication that I shouldn't return, but for some reason, I felt moved in my spirit to come back, for I do enjoy posting here.

Please just try to remember, Rich, that everyone has to make their own choices. Sometimes a contrived peace is worse than no peace at all. And, it is said that one may lie for peace, but not when the peace itself is a lie.

HAPPY 2007, FELLOW WASHERIANS!!!
 
Bonanza!

I heard on local radio at work this morning. I believe in the death penalty anyway but I cant wait to see pictures of this guy swinging! Im sure there will be plenty. Hopefully he suffered to the maximum too. Harsh words I know but lets face it, eye for an eye and all that. Im sure the American division are with me o this. Heres to the safe return of your cousin Shane, and the other guys out there with more guts than me. Top job guys, Nick.
 
While the death of Mr. Hussein may bring comfort and or a sense of revenge to certian Iraq citizens, it was not the stated purpose for invading that country. Furhtermore if Mr. Hussein's death was the only objective, there were other equally effective methods of reaching that means that die not involve the death of thousands of American,British and others.

As for Mr.Hussein getting what was coming to him, there are plenty of persons in power doing the same or worse; however because they happen to be of use to the United States at the moment (just as Mr. Hussein was at one time) we hear a different story.

Mr. Hussein ceased being relevant the moment Iraq was invaded, his death will achieve nothing in terms of hastening the end of the "war", but will probably give much fuel to his supporters/those against America, who will probably turn the late Mr. Hussein into some sort of martyr.

L.
 
At work I am watching on Fox news and they repeadily show a video clip of Iraqi executioners walking Saddam from the waiting cell to the gallows-then placing the neuce around his neck-then the clip stops.Yes , this guy got his just diserves
 
Lets hope with Saddam now gone the war in Iraq can be drawn to a close.This would benefit everyone.Also on the Fox news-they mention that the US has been placed on "Alert"in case of any reprisals from Saddam's execution.
 
I don't celebrate in anyone's death. However, I hope this brings some closure to all that were affected by his murderous brutality. Perhaps his death will also embolden those who feared his "comeback". Let them now take the reins of their county's destiny so that we can bring back all the brave men and women serving in the region.
 
Children, place nice!

Opinions are like @$$holes. Everyone has one and some really stink.

Bless your civil and kind hearts, one and all all. It is OK for someone to have a different opinion than yours. In my limited little twisted opinion, the NEED to be right comes from a place of ego. Many religions teach the suppression of ego as a good thing.

Need to get passionate about something?
Fix your OWN life and your own messes, THEN seek to fix the world. (This is not aimed at anyone at all, so breathe!) Perhaps if everyone did just that there would BE no world mess/situations.

(*ducks and runs*)

Remember it is said that JC was not into politics and not into organized religion. Seize your personal power and the power of love and forgiveness!

...........and Fr. Toggle leaves the pulpit. No need to applaud just throw dollar bills! LOL

BTW, I am waiting to see how long it takes this "Sadddam" thread to turn to destruction! Let's not and say we did.

Interested to note that the big, senior old 1st Bush used to pronounce the name *Sadaam* by putting the stress/accent on the first "A" which means *devil* in Arabic. Said properly I believe the name Sadaam gets accented/stressed on the second (set of) "A"

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It really is something how the Bible and what is happening in the world today coincide perfectly. Just a thought and it is not a pleasant one.

World events are playing out just as scriptures planned it to.

Iraq (Babylon) would never again be the power it was in biblical times. All i am saying...man doesn't have all the answers no matter how educated one can possibly be, God does direct world events, and what we SHOULD have done just goes to show who is control. It was meant to be Suddam would be dethroned.
 
I'll agree with Venus...

We should not celebrate this man's death at all.

I worry about what this means for our troops aslready in Iraq, as I think this will just make things worse. The execution of one man, deserved or not, is not the solution to this problem.
 
I did not write this but agree 100 %

" I am totally and utterly disgusted, I feel ashamed to be part of the same race as those who gloat and take pleasure in a public execution. How ironic that an evil man like Sadam has shown more dignity in his final minutes than those who are now in charge of Iraq of the US and UK Governments" .

On a personal note I feel that life in jail would have been more of a punishment. There is no doubt he was an evil man, but we must remember we did not go to war over his human right abuses.
 
Keep praying for our troops!

The death of SadistSaddam is not going to stop the war overseas.

Sadly,I don't think we will see all the troops deploy back home for a lllllllong time. (years)

And I also believe it will get worse, before it gets better.

Every morning during the week, I read a "special" company website blog regarding our employees over in Middle East.

You would not believe some of the things I read. Some of it is out right halarious, and the rest...is all politics between contractors and the military...and it amazes me what hasn't been made public for the rest of the world to see.

Keep these men and women in your daily prayers folks. They have put their lives literally on the line for ALL of us, in the name of FREEDOM & Liberty!
 
Maytagmom good points

I will keep our men and woman in Service in my prayers.

I agree with Agiflow on this "All i am saying...man doesn't have all the answers no matter how educated one can possibly be"
BUT:
I could not disagree more with Agiflow's position on "God does direct world events, and what we SHOULD have done just goes to show who is control. It was meant to be Suddam would be dethroned."

IMHO-I think it is time for mankind to crawl out of the darkness of supersition and into the daylight of truth to put the blame squarely where it exists.
God granted Free Will on us all. That point cannot be argued against by anyone.
So what we have here on Earth is what WE have done not what God has done. Don't pin the world's state on God, at the start he gave us a perfectly working existence. If you think the world is screwed up then We have screwed it up, not Him.

And the only way out is for Us to change and grow, He's done his part now its Our turn. Take responsibilty for the mess, and have a change of heart.

This is my feeling: there are only two directions on any of the roads of life, either away from God or towards God. You as an individual must choose constantly which way you are going to head.

If you choose away then you head into chaos, if you choose towards then you head into truth.

We'll I guess I needed to get that off my chest phew!

jet
 
I am shocked, shocked I tell you

Time will show whether this horrible man's death was a good idea or not. It certainly does open the door to more, not less violence in the mid-east.
Back in the US now, I have listened to the opinions of folks over here very carefully the last week.
It is hard to believe that people in the US are reading the same information which the rest of the world is reading.
The number of people who have told me that the US is 'winning' the war, that #43 is the best president ever, that the sacrifice of thousands of young Americans in Iraq is right and proper (dulce et decorum est...)
Unbelievable.
When I grew up in the US, being patriotic meant upholding the constitution and protecting the citizens one was sworn to serve.
Guess that definition got thrown out somewhere along the line. Today it is: My country - love it or leave it!
Heard that one at least four times in the last week as the 'end of discussion' on any topic which called the value of this war into question.
If I thought Saadam's execution would save the life of just one US soldier, I'd have gone over there and done it myself. Now, I fear, we have just witnessed the creation of a martyr.
(Toggle, I predict self-destruction in 60,59,58...read by a seductive voice like in Andromeda Strain)
 
Sorry to rain on the parade,but.....

I doubt if the death of Saddam will make any difference in the war in Iraq. There is no quick fix to the mess over there.

And I have to say, whatever propaganda "Faux Brews" is spewing forth should be taken for what it is. Propaganda, not news.
Take off the rose coloured glasses, wake up, and change the channel. You'll be doing yourself and your country a "heck of a job" by doing so.
 
Jetcone, i was not saying God is to blame at all. But what i am saying, or trying to say is that, humans did not create this world or are in no way shape or form in control of what the outcome will be.

Yes, we make choices everyday. It is such a complicated process to describe what we all know to be inside of us.

We sin in our minds everyday,..but what is the SIN,..the thought or the carrying out of the thought? We are all guilty!

His death (Saddam) just makes one wonder how good the outside looks and what unspeakable evil lies underneath.

That doesn't sound like programmed thinking at all, we all know the truth because it is written in our hearts.
 
Yeah he got what he deserved hung like a dog that he is and hopefully the war can be done with and bring our troops home safe and sound.
 
An apology to Jetcone

I had no right to assume what you or anyone else here takes comfort in. That was just plain wrong. These topics really bring out what so many of us feel. Just isn't what we all agree on a lot of times.
 
... If your major appliances are your only comfort...i feel

Agiflow,

That wasn't very nice at all. Jetcone just agreed and disagreed with with your opinion/observations. No need to take anyone elses inventory! Is there?

Rich
 
They should have shot him when they found him in that hole and got it over and done with. He got what he deserved whether or not it makes any difference to the situation in Iraq. The only thing that will make any difference is for a full withdrawal of all troops.
 
Agiflow -

I disagree completely that "humans are in no way, shape or form in control of what the outcome will be".

We may not have "created" the world at hand, but we sure as hell created the situation that it's in now, for better or for worse. And only we can determine, through our own actions, what the resulting future will look like. It will be a result of our own free will, and hopefully future good judgement.

Mankind created his/her own situation, and he/she must take the resposibility to fix it, and hopefully for the better.

Just my two cents worth.....
 
Thanks to our Troops.

This is alot to happen, Im not sure i exactly understand all of it, there are many complex issues,in Iraq to my way of thinking. I know I want OUR troops home safe and sound, so many of our Best have given their lives. Was it really 2003 when they found saddam in that hole? this is almost 2007, So why on earth can't the new democracy in Iraq get their army or whatever it is together? Boot camp in the USA is what 6-8wks, seems to me, Iraq has had enough time to have Boot College. Praying Our Troops are home safe SOON...sidebar, wonder how much this has cost so far in taxpayer dollars?
 
ok, I'm outahere

Steve, you were right. This thread is going to hell in a handbasket.

I find it increasingly difficult to see a difference between christianists and the rest of the fundamentalist, hate-filled -ists.

Let's wait a week or two and see what happens. Then we might have a basis for comment.
 
I basically agree with Venus (Are you rubbing off on me? ;-) I hate to see anyone killed, but I can't get too worked up over this one.

HOWEVER, I think it was a sham trial, rushed through so that Sadaam was silenced forever. He knew too much, and was too dangerous if he were allowed to talk. If this thing were done right, he would have gone to the Hague, where he could still be executed, but a lot more dirt would have come out.

As for revelations, real or not, the turn of every century - and especially the turn of the millenium - brings out all sorts of "parallels" to the Book of Revelations. IMO, God doesn't work on our calendar. If he/she/it has a plan to end the world (a concept which I personally find extremely dubious) he/she/it will do it on his/her/its schedule. Besides, we seem to be doing a real good job of destroying the planet on our own.

To each his own, of course. But I don't see much reason for celebration in this event. I fear we're stuck over there for the duration. The only people this war is helping is the defense contractors. We should have paid more attention to President Eisenhower. I've linked to his famous speech. Lest anyone accuse me of being partisan, let me gently remind you that President Eisenhower was a Republican.

http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents/indust.html
 
oops!

Sorry, wrong speech (although it is an excellent, thoughtful one. He wasn't Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces in WWII because he was pretty ;-)

The gist of what I was refering to can be summed up in this quote from President Eisenhower:

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron."

-- Dwight Eisenhower, April 16, 1953
 
Agiflow

I was not trying to sound strident, I just believe strongly in what I feel like you and we all should feel this spot is a place for dissent.

Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.

I was flinging my 2 cents in probably with a heavy hand but thats me.

I hope you always feel free to comment your views here and I apologize if I made you feel uncomfortable that was never my intention.
I always attack what I percieve as not true I was not making a personal attack on you or any other member.

I'll try to walk a little softer next time.
sorry
Jon
 
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