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My Sister took me to find a new dishwasher last month.I don't know why when she would not listen to anything I said.

I told her to get a Maytag because they have a real motor in it not a drain pump like her Kitchenaid

that is 1 year and half old any was in the house when they bought it.

She sees that new Samsung Chief dishwasher with that water wall and she was paying for it with out asking

a single question.

My Sister does not know how to load a dishwasher at all,I can get twice as much in there and they come clean.

Her main problem is she will not clean the filter in them.

The Samsung was $$$ it was over 1500 by the time she paid for everything.I told her she was nuts the wash system is new and

has not been out long.

It was installed and it does not wash well at all.I went to open the door and the door latch was broke.

They fixed that,well a week later the dishwasher did not stop running.I was staying the week with her and I loaded the dishwasher 

and turned it on heavy wash at 11P.M. and when I got up it was still washing a 9.

They had to replace the control board,two days later they had to replace that control board.

Then the motor went and the latch broke again.I took it out and we took it to Sears and exchanged it for that T.O.L. Maytag

that was half the cost of that Samsung.

They installed it the other day so I have not used it yet my Sister loves it so far she said it cleans alot better.

The warranty is better and it is very very quite.

The water wall dishwasher I think is going to be a problem.That wall of water arm will be breaking and it just does not have the power

to clean well.I think that alot of power is lost when it deflects the water up.My Smeg does the same thing and is alot more simple and cleans

very well.

We might have got a Lemon but I would save 600 of that and got the entry model Miele for 1000 bucks.

My Sister does not clean that filter at all.The instructions say once a year but she runs two loads a day easy.

That was why I told her to get the Maytag it has a grinder in it in the first place.

When that guy said you can load this machine anyway which way she glazed over and pulled out her Amex.

 

 
 
.I can see the selling point having that wall of water going back and forth with total coverage.

My Smeg like most has the wash arm with a small arm that spins very fast gets everything clean even tall cups and the wash arm is

not motorized like Samsungs dishwasher is.That wash arm breaking is something I for-see big time.I have read the reviews

it seems alot of them are having problems.

 

 

 
 
I said back before they officially released them that they'd be complete crap. I'll never pay money for any new machine with the way things have been going. Not until the manufacturers realize that cheap plastic and a tablespoon of water CANNOT properly wash dishes. I hope to keep my newly restored PowerClean in service for a long time, and should it finally give out, I have the Maytag with the last good Point Voyager design waiting to take its place. With the exception of the Maytag, being a 2013 model but still using the PV system introduced in the early 00s, the only machines I'll be using will be made between '95 and 2005. That seems to be the era when humans had everything perfect -- just the right balance of quality build and excellent performance with sensible efficiency.
 
No all that did not happen in a week it was two weeks that the rest of it broke.When the latch broke that was it for us and

I also foresaw that motorized bar that deflects the water as a problem.That is something extra that does not really need to be

there.My Smeg dishwasher does the same thing and with no motor. The Maytag is alot better from what my sister says

it has alot more wash power.The pump is alot more powerful that the Point-Voyager type,

the motor is the same but they use a Fransis turbine and case it looks like...
 
Is Samsung the first to use bars or tubes in a DW?  I think I saw a dishwasher that had two round tubes protruding  from the back and running up to the front.  There was a tube under the bottom rack and one under the top and each tube had holes in it..  I don't think there was anyway to move them from back to front but they were in the middle of the racks so they would have had to go left to right.

 

I remember this because I was wondering how these things could work.  My assumption was that the tubes sprayed water out of the holes and revolved left to right like some lawn sprinklers do. I've only seen this one time and never again, so I was thinking that this design was a disaster.  I think it was a Frigidaire model but I am not sure. Heck maybe I saw this in a dream!

 

I would like to think that Samsung has tested this design and that it actually works, although I don't see anything wrong with the wash arms my current dW is using.  Can't see this selling for a price equal to some TOL Mieles though. Not just for an arm sliding around, and certainly not for parts falling off and going bad after two weeks of use.

 

 
 
Wow

I was wrong about the tube under the lower rack, but then how did the lower rack get clean? 

1958? No that's not the year I...saw it, but I just don't remember where or when.  At least it wasn't in one of the nasty dreams I so often have!.  Thanks for posting this logixx.
 
I saw this Samsung at Lowes Saturday.  The moving deflector and stationary water jets were almost laughable in quality, and that was just fiddling and appearance on the sales-floor.  I can only imagine what they're like in actual use.  I would hope Samsung actually was able to get clean dishes from this machine or it presumably wouldn't have made it out of R&D, lab testing and final, rigorous real-life testing in consumer's homes.  Hope springs eternal I suppose.   Thanks to your sister, Wes, for taking the fall on this one for us, it's good to hear first-hand reviews of new products and I hope she likes her new-new dishwasher going forward.

 

Dacor had a 30" dishwasher model that had tube-sprayers along the edges of the upper (and lower?) rack that made up for what the standard wash-arm(s) would miss when sized for the front-to-back depth limitation.  I don't recall now if the tubes spun in their positions, but they were stationary at the edges.  I don't think the spray-tube models lasted much longer than Dacor's first iteration of the 30" machine, but IIRC one of our members (mark-lightedcontrols) had one of the earlier versions and reported that it worked very well until it didn't and had to replaced by Dacor.
 
I think I'll be sticking to Bosch.

To be honest, I think at this stage the dishwasher's really quite well evolved. Two rotary spray arms and some kind of a device to spray from the top of the upper rack is all you need.

Miele are quite happy to just wash an entire cake in their machines and it got rid of the entire thing on a sensor wash programme lol

I'd like to try that in the Samsung.

 
What a waste of a nice cake-give the cake to me to eat and I would put the empty cake plate in the washer-tape ---BIG DEAL- someone could just peel it off and stick it back on again!!!Other washer makers have done the "cake test"!So its not new.The fake handles on the door are a joke!But neat dishwasher,though.
 
Miele are pretty much Kitchen Aid knockoffs.

A new Water wall versus Maytag video had a preliminary release last Friday it should be on You Tube by the end of next week. You get to see head to head with a whole pizza
 
Sorry Henene4 Miele was not the original

Kitchenaid is to dishwashers as Amana is to Microwaves.
Kitchenaid was the first dishwasher, designed by a woman, Josephine Cochran BTW. It is American, any after that are just variations.



 
In America 1893 is before 1929

"Josephine Cochran had expected the public to welcome the new invention, which she unveiled at the 1893, World's Fair,"

"She founded a company to manufacture these dish washers, which eventually became KitchenAid."

"It was not until the 1950s, that dishwashers caught on with the general public."
 

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