Tide Pod Stains A Load Of Whites

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frigilux

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As mentioned in other threads, I decided to force a Tide pod to malfunction, creating stains and, hopefully, an undissolved casing.

To accomplish this, I double-wrapped a pod in towels, then placed the bundle in the center of a maximum capacity load of white bath linens. The load was washed in cold water on the Quick cycle with the soil selector set at Extra Light.

Step 1: The pod is placed in the center of a flour-sack dish towel.

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Step 4: The small bath towel is folded around the pod towel. The bundle is placed in the center of a full load of bath linens.

Note: I filled the tub to capacity with more towels, but the photo of the full load was very blurry, so I didn't include it.[this post was last edited: 4/18/2014-11:04]

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Here's a better photo of the slimy, very sticky undissolved pod.

Next up:

Step 1: I'm going to re-wash one of the towels while it's still damp, using warm water and another Tide pod. Had this happened to a load of dress shirts (God forbid!), I wouldn't be able to wash in hot water or use chlorine bleach.

Step 2: I'll wash the stained hand towel (which is one of my good ones) in a small load of kitchen and personal whites, using hot water, liquid chlorine bleach, and the Sanitize cycle.

Step 3: The dish towel will be dried in the dryer, mimicking what would happen if a the stain had been missed coming out of the washer, then dried. Then I'll wash that with a load of kitchen whites Sunday or Monday.

I'd like to reattach the pod casing to the dish towel, then dry it. I've read that, when heated, the pod casing turns to hard plastic which is extremely difficult to remove without tearing the fabric. However...I do not want to risk the casing attaching itself to the interior of the dryer and forming a bond with the drum or one of the paddles. Sorry, kids!

We'll see which, if any, of these pod stains are removed.

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Nice test!

Good thing my washer doesn't even have a cold setting.

I suppoese, you could also just rinse a bit of the towel under warm water and see if that removes the dye. Instead of the dryer, why not use your hair dryer (if you have one).

Alex
 
Fascinating, Eugene!

This underscores a lot of what I had been suspecting--that the people afflicted with this staining phenomenon are stuffing the washer, running it on cold/fast washes (damp laundry equals finished), and/or any combination of the above. Your approach is clever and is a nifty way of simulating those conditions.

Rather than manufacturers needing to revamp their products, I suspect we have a lot of folks in this country who need a first or even second pass at Home Ec. :-)
 
Mr. Impatient: I threw the heavily-stained dish towel and the stained bath towel into the dryer. Since the blue stains on the damp hand towel were removed in warm water, I decided to rewash the dried items in the same manner. All stains removed! No hot water or liquid chlorine bleach required.

Here's a photo of the dish towel.

Pondering: Why did the small chamber of blue liquid stain numerous so heavily, while stains from the same-sized chamber of orange liquid are very light and only on the dish towel pictured up-thread? [this post was last edited: 4/18/2014-17:50]

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What

is the blue coloring for?
With that much blue color.. If you wash a yellow shirt, dose it turn the shirt green?
Why dose the "blue" have to be there in the first place?
What is the plastic material that's holding the pod thing together? And where dose the plastic, or whatever it's is, go after it dissolves?

I don't get it
 
Those stains...

Specifically the Purple one, comes out with lots & lots of rinsing, under cool *not cold nor warm* but cool water. Tide also recommends, the use of a cotton swab and rubbing alcohol to remove any remnants that remain after thorough rinsing, along with another wash, with a liquid or powder (non pod) detergent, preferablly long if the clothing fibers can stand it. 

 

On another note.. I must say those are some fine linens you have :) They look quite nice. 
 
Whoops! Your eagle eyes probably noticed that I posted the wrong photo in Post #750977. Instead of a repeat of the hand towel, it should have been a photo of the now clean, formerly heavily-stained dish towel. Fortunately, the correct snap was still in iPhoto.

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Interesting Eugene,

I used them in my friends front loader,

and it got caught in between the rubber gasket and window door.

Twice it happened I had to open it up on the first rinse to get it out and wiped it .

I dont mind in a top loader put the fronts 

Is like hit and miss.

Darren k
 
Oh I get it now. Tide recommends rewashing Pod mistakes in Tide minus the pod. Anything to shove another product off the shelf. [rolleyes] Now we need Tide Pod Remover!

What a handsome machine. Every button you could think of except microwave popcorn. Not like I could afford it, but what is it?
 
Darren-- When Tide pods first hit the market, I picked up a bag and gave them a try. They migrated to the front of the tub and into the boot two or three times. That was part of the reason I didn't purchase them again until recently, when I decided to give them another try. I can't explain why, but none of the pods I've used in the past few months have wound up in the boot. Maybe they dissolve a little faster than they used to, or maybe it's just luck on my part.

Rick-- I rewashed the stained items using a Tide pod and the results were fine. But you're right, knowing P&G there will probably be a Tide Pod Remover on the market at some point. Again, I don't know if I've been lucky or if the pods dissolve faster than they used to, but I haven't experienced a single stained load or undissolved pod. I wash in warm or hot water. (Black loads get washed in cold, but I use liquid Perwoll Intensive Black for them.) The washer is a 2010 Frigidaire. It was the top-of-the-line model at the time, and I paid around $900 for it. It's been a reliable machine, so far.
 
Well, I know the Ariel pods we have in the UK dissolve quicker than their previous incarnation ( Ariel liquitabs )which could often migrate to the door boot.
 
Mitch-- Thanks for the link to the article. Staining and failure to dissolve are definitely the most common complaint about pods. I haven't experienced that, so far, which is why I wanted to try this experiment.

Alex-- I've had very short hair since 1995, so my blow dryer was gifted to my nephew many years ago. That would be a shortcut to getting the stains dry; and it would avoid any possible stain transfer to the dryer drum and paddles.

Nate-- Frankly, I think the pod stains any item it touches as it dissolves, but the agitation of the wash cycle removes it from the fabric under more friendly circumstances. Wonder if it would adhere itself to (and stain), say, a damp bath towel and cause problems, especially if the 'delayed start' feature was used. H-m-m-m-m... that sounds like another experiment in the making, doesn't it?

Freddy-- You're right; I'd never use a Quick cycle for a full load of towels. I was simply trying to create the worst possible circumstances to cause the pod to malfunction. In fact, I don't recall ever using the Quick cycle before now.

Ben-- It's time to move into the 'acceptance' phase. I'm a pod person, now. By the way, have you ever had problems with Sears detergent not dissolving properly? It has formed thin, crisp pieces of hardened detergent for me on two separate occasions. They looked like paper-thin pieces of styrofoam whirling around in the water. It's only happened it the top-loader. I suppose the instant dilution of the detergent in the dispenser on the front-loader helps with that issue.

Stan-- I don't know why Tide and Gain are the only multi-chambered/multi-colored pods. You'd think the whole staining issue would be moot if the liquid was white (as it is in the main chamber of Tide pods) or clear. The deep blue or purple color of most pods doesn't change the hue of light-colored items. Quite honestly, I have no idea what the pod casing is made of. I've watched several of them disintegrate in the Speed Queen top-loader, and the casing just seems to disappear. Perhaps it goes to pod heaven?

Paul-- I think you're on to something; the new pods do seem to dissolve faster. I've not had a problem with them migrating to the boot, as they did when first introduced.

Jon-- There will be more experiments and, eventually, a full-blown stain removal test with some of the better-performing pods. Finding the time to do the tests is the problem.

Thanks, everyone, for checking in on this thread. Many here do not use pods and I thought it might be interesting for you to see how they function. Or in this case, how they malfunction.

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Yeah I know, it was not meant for you, just a consideration :)...
Infact, I have to say again that considering the effort I'd have expected it be worse...
So, even on the base of this, I am prone to think that there are a lot of folks out there who cannot do laundry properly.... As if it wasn't obvious enough LOL...Also there are many conpulsive complainers who likes to complain or invent litterally something to complain about, who probably even likes to receive free samples and coupons as apologize from P&G, because this is what they does ...we all know that there are these sorts of people around! don't you know?
Overloads, , quick cold "washes" etc...... And simple troublemakers!
 
Was this a real question about where the casing go???
Anyway, it dissolves in water....these "new" types of hydrosoluble casings you even find in dishwasher tabs, pacs, whatever, is usually made of PVA...it is thought to be hard to decompose, the eco-green blog over here from long talked shit about them, other than for the pods and pacs themselves being nothing one could really call eco...May be the only time I agree wit them!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyvinyl_alcohol[this post was last edited: 4/21/2014-19:02]
 
I'll just stick with my measurable powder detergent. Another thing with those pods is, if you have just a medium or small sized load to wash, you'd have to use a whole pod to wash a small load. Then use an extra rinse as there would be definite oversudsing. I always wash full sized loads except for whites since I don't have but a few pairs of socks and some t-shirts. I wouldn't want to use enough detergent for a large load on a small one.
 
Never fridge!

never!

I will never do pods. Never! Liquids, yes. Decent powder yes. But never pods!

I had to give in to my anal eco-sanctioned GE dishwasher and succumb to those tabs lest I have crusty powder in the dispenser after each wash. This was not by choice.

ya see, I like to control the dose. I like to "guess" as to what will be enough or too much. Believe it or not, I do like that sort of challenge. Most times I get it right. Mostly :)

With regard to the sears stuff, can't say I have noticed what you spoke of. I mix the water; start on HOT then depending on how big the load is, switch to SQ definition of "warm". This gives me a decent warm wash and the Sears stuff seems to dissolve fine in my slightly hard water. I will look more closely next time.

I may be the last powder/liquid holdout but doggone it, a man's gotta stand for something!
 
@washman

You're looking at (okay, reading) another devout anti-pods man :)

 

Still use Powder for most of my loads, but switch to liquid for my load of dark items - since it seems to be better for those articles. 

 

I do keep a stash of Pods (Tablets) for the really nasty loads in the Dishwasher though - since they do have enough cleaning edge to really help on those rare occasions that powder won't cut it, unless I manually do a Fast-Eco cycle with soap (to add the missing Prewash), then go into a Full heavy cycle on my machine (1 Wash, 3 post-rinses). 

 

However, I must congratulate Frigilux for having the gumption to potentially ruin some of his linen for the benefit of others - and of course, he's an early adopter a big evangelist of the format, so I guess we can congratulate him (or thump him with the "Holy Book 'o Powder") on that as well!
 
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