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Are the WP/KM standard tub models still available? That would be my first and affordable choice. Second would be a low end Miele...
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I just can't stand it
I looks like my plastic Kenmore may have a leak. I just read the new Consumer's Report. All of the cycles are well over two hours. This is really rediculous. That is normally just two washes, and one rinse, plus dry time. I am so used to throwing the dishes in at 7:00 p.m. and having them done and ready to put away in less than an hour, and totally clean.
Yes, I know it has something to do with enzymes, but this is beyond any rational thought. And, since the kitchen is open to the family room I have to hear that thing run for over two hours, not.
I guess I'll have to find some vintage KA to have the cycles that I want.
Martin
I looks like my plastic Kenmore may have a leak. I just read the new Consumer's Report. All of the cycles are well over two hours. This is really rediculous. That is normally just two washes, and one rinse, plus dry time. I am so used to throwing the dishes in at 7:00 p.m. and having them done and ready to put away in less than an hour, and totally clean.
Yes, I know it has something to do with enzymes, but this is beyond any rational thought. And, since the kitchen is open to the family room I have to hear that thing run for over two hours, not.
I guess I'll have to find some vintage KA to have the cycles that I want.
Martin
Hi Martin and everyone else who read my comments yesterday about the GE tall tubs that I and my mother have. I have been pretty down on GE since the technician told us that Mom's early 2005 Triton XL needed a new motor. My late 2003 machine was developing the same symptoms, so I had been planning a new machine purchase. I said here yesterday that I would try a suggested fix to our vibration complaint, and I did that last night.
I verified that the conduit to Mom's center wash arm was quite loose fitting and with high water pressure, could create quite a vibration.
We started up the machine, and instantly the roaring/grumbling began. So, I stopped the machine, installed one zip tie, and we did not hear any sign of the noise the rest of the cycle!! If they don't hear it again on another cycle or two, I think we can pronounce the machine fixed, and I'll feel a lot better about GE's product.
I will say this, barring the discussion of the center wash arm, the tall tub GEs do a nice job washing and they sure are quiet when nothing is vibrating. I can rub my fingers together while in front of the dishwasher and hear it. My dishes are usually not very dirty so when it first starts washing and sensing (I have a PDW7800), it usually goes straight into main wash without draining and refilling. If I fill the supplemental detergent cup, it will drain and refill several times before the main detergent cup opens. Not doing that makes the cycle SHORT, like less than an hour (running the basic normal cycle). You may like one of those machines Martin. If we indeed fixed the vibration yesterday, I can give them my recommendation (vs. the hatchet that I was offering them yesterday, lol). We'll give it a couple more trial runs before I say for sure.
I verified that the conduit to Mom's center wash arm was quite loose fitting and with high water pressure, could create quite a vibration.
We started up the machine, and instantly the roaring/grumbling began. So, I stopped the machine, installed one zip tie, and we did not hear any sign of the noise the rest of the cycle!! If they don't hear it again on another cycle or two, I think we can pronounce the machine fixed, and I'll feel a lot better about GE's product.
I will say this, barring the discussion of the center wash arm, the tall tub GEs do a nice job washing and they sure are quiet when nothing is vibrating. I can rub my fingers together while in front of the dishwasher and hear it. My dishes are usually not very dirty so when it first starts washing and sensing (I have a PDW7800), it usually goes straight into main wash without draining and refilling. If I fill the supplemental detergent cup, it will drain and refill several times before the main detergent cup opens. Not doing that makes the cycle SHORT, like less than an hour (running the basic normal cycle). You may like one of those machines Martin. If we indeed fixed the vibration yesterday, I can give them my recommendation (vs. the hatchet that I was offering them yesterday, lol). We'll give it a couple more trial runs before I say for sure.
GE 7700
Like I said I have the GE 7700 tall tub from 2003. Mine also will skip the prewash if the dishes are not that dirty. It doesn't matter weather or not I fill the additional cup with detergent. Mine will make the grumbling noise the first few minutes of the cycle and than stop. Where exactally do you install the tie to fix the problem? I am just happy to know their is nothing seriously wrong with the machine. I do like mime and like the fact you get 3 rinses like no other dishwasher today will give. Everything always comes out spotless. I still think GE is the best in todays standards. But of course their is nothing like a older KitchenAid.
Peter
Like I said I have the GE 7700 tall tub from 2003. Mine also will skip the prewash if the dishes are not that dirty. It doesn't matter weather or not I fill the additional cup with detergent. Mine will make the grumbling noise the first few minutes of the cycle and than stop. Where exactally do you install the tie to fix the problem? I am just happy to know their is nothing seriously wrong with the machine. I do like mime and like the fact you get 3 rinses like no other dishwasher today will give. Everything always comes out spotless. I still think GE is the best in todays standards. But of course their is nothing like a older KitchenAid.
Peter
Peter -
I put the zip tie about 2.5 inches back from the rear of the upper rack. I just wrapped the tie around the conduit and over one of the rack wires. I may yet ad another closer to where the two pieces of conduit mate together, but I wanted to try just one initially. Immediately I could tell that the whole spray arm assembly was tighter and rattled less.
Crazy....I am still baffled as to why a legitimate General Electric F A C T O R Y servicer would not know this.
I put the zip tie about 2.5 inches back from the rear of the upper rack. I just wrapped the tie around the conduit and over one of the rack wires. I may yet ad another closer to where the two pieces of conduit mate together, but I wanted to try just one initially. Immediately I could tell that the whole spray arm assembly was tighter and rattled less.
Crazy....I am still baffled as to why a legitimate General Electric F A C T O R Y servicer would not know this.
zip tie
I first learned of this zip tie method from the fixitnow.com samurais.
The GE repair men are not very intelligent.
With that said, the one that's been in our area for years is a great man and very knowledgeable about the appliances.
It's is "career" and he's very professional.
I can't say much about many of their phone help or other "substitute" repair men we've had.
I first learned of this zip tie method from the fixitnow.com samurais.
The GE repair men are not very intelligent.
With that said, the one that's been in our area for years is a great man and very knowledgeable about the appliances.
It's is "career" and he's very professional.
I can't say much about many of their phone help or other "substitute" repair men we've had.
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Bob- you asked me to weigh in, so I will. I've had the GE Profile 9800 for 4 years. And for 4 years, it has performed flawlessly. The racks are flexible, and big, and the machine is fairly quiet. I've heard no reports of any kind of GE motor bearings going bad or premature failures of any kind. If I had to replace it, as I may have to once the kitchen is remodeled for a stainless steel model, I would buy another one in a heartbeat. It's that good. And it doesn't take 2 hours to wash dishes.
Rinse agent
Can someone tell me abaout the difference between JetDry and Cascade Pure rinse agent and which is better?
Can someone tell me abaout the difference between JetDry and Cascade Pure rinse agent and which is better?
Larry, see my post in the KA dishwawsher problem in this forum/section. I used some of the regular Jet Dry that came with the machine. Leslie (Magic Clean) sent me some Jet Dry Turbo. It's incredible. I love the stuff. Best dry performance I've had in any dishwasher I've ever owned. That includes a couple of GE PotScrubbers, a 1984 Hotpoint PotWasher, and a D&M Kenmore with forced air drying.
Bob, I went to Costco and brought a big bottle of Jet-Dry and to Pathmark and brought the Turbo Jet-dry before reading this new update. So I guess I'm set for the rest of this year.
Can you add the link to your *KA dishwawsher problems!*
Larry
Can you add the link to your *KA dishwawsher problems!*
Larry
Larry, it's thread 15653 on this Deluxe forum!!
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probably a whirlpool or kenmore with adjustable racks *grins* and manual clean filter (less noise). funny though my friend has a MOL slightly older hotpoint dw in her townhouse and the only sound it makes when running is the water thats it its easily drowned out by other things! it sounds like a shower running in there. now hers is broken 
I'm gonna puke. Looking to replace my KA TT POS.
The Whirpool power-clean system (Two door non-tall tub model)
does WASH-RINSE-DRY when "Normal" cycle is selected.
To get a W-W-R-R-D one has to select "Pots and pans".
EW!
Terry: How many water changes does your GE TT do in a normal cycle? I cant find cycle breakdowns (water use and changes) on GE's website.
The Whirpool power-clean system (Two door non-tall tub model)
does WASH-RINSE-DRY when "Normal" cycle is selected.
To get a W-W-R-R-D one has to select "Pots and pans".
EW!
Terry: How many water changes does your GE TT do in a normal cycle? I cant find cycle breakdowns (water use and changes) on GE's website.
Well good Steve. You've complained about your dishwasher ever since you've been here. And I'm sorry you're unhappy with it. FYI, extremely happy with my Kenmore Elite TT. And to my amazement, even Light/China cleans my BobLoads of stuff that has sat for 4-6 days without being touched (you've seen how i pretty much tip off large pieces of food, the rest goes in the machine and the TT I have is treated no different). Mashed potatoes and oatmeal sit for days. I did a load that sat for 14 days last weekened. ALL CLEAN. My water heater at best is set at 120. I see very little difference in cleaning between my old GWSD1200 and my new machine. You were one of the main reassons I had trepidations of picking this machine, but it have proven me very wrong ith those trepedations. And I hope CleanTeamNY (Larry) is just as happy with his as I am, when he gets his kitchen finished. And I hope Greg finds something wrong with Terry's dishwasher so that it can be fixed and he'll be just as happy with his GE. And BTW, I did 3 loads on SuperBowl Sunday
And ya know what, when I was in Tuscon last March, Terry & I were discussing my 20 y/o GE because he had the same model. He was the one who commented, I should start thinking about replacing it because seals are gonna start going bad and so forth.
If the GE TRITON is still a water-hog, I may go with that one, circular tower cut-out and all.
Even with such a space-killer, this machine fits large pots in the top rack.
It's quick, washes well and is well-racked. One can also select or de-select a heated wash, a heated rinse and a heated dry.
Does not indicate WASH, RINSE DRY, but I will manage to live past the disappointment.
Even with such a space-killer, this machine fits large pots in the top rack.
It's quick, washes well and is well-racked. One can also select or de-select a heated wash, a heated rinse and a heated dry.
Does not indicate WASH, RINSE DRY, but I will manage to live past the disappointment.
Gosh, on Water Miser, both the Kenmore Ultra Clean and the Maytag Jet Clean use 4 water changes of 2 gallons each. The Kenmore has the WP power clean module and the Maytag has that super fine filter and they wash great. Most anything with heavier than normal soil comes out clean if I add water heating to prolong the wash. The 18s are great cleaners. They do use more water, but hold more, too. The country was about 4 years into the "energy crisis" when the 18 series was introduced. It has two different fill levels; one for the first two prerinses and the first two after rinses and then a higher fill level for the pre-wash and wash. The last rinse uses less than the other rinses so that if Sani Rinse is selected, it heats up faster. But at least they had the sense to fill both washes with enough water to make sure that the pump would have plenty of water to keep up the pressure for good, strong wash water action.
Do these new GE machines have a cycle that does not use the turbidity sensor to check for food soil? The detergent in the second detergent cup makes the water a bit cloudy and that trips the optical beam amd makes the sensor think it is food soil clouding the water so it washes more. John and Jason tell me that most people are not thrilled with the newer dishwashers unless they pre rinse dishes, but that wastes water, too; it's just not consumed by the machine so the machine gets the good energy rating. Everything has become so corrupted.
Do these new GE machines have a cycle that does not use the turbidity sensor to check for food soil? The detergent in the second detergent cup makes the water a bit cloudy and that trips the optical beam amd makes the sensor think it is food soil clouding the water so it washes more. John and Jason tell me that most people are not thrilled with the newer dishwashers unless they pre rinse dishes, but that wastes water, too; it's just not consumed by the machine so the machine gets the good energy rating. Everything has become so corrupted.
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