Why Has Whirlpool Never Sold a BOL Power Clean Module?

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The PC spec sheet I have, has the thermal holds timing out after 30-40 minutes.


Right, in the event the heater gave out. Otherwise the machine would run forever.

With residual heat from the main wash and water heating going on before and/or after the thermal hold those 30 minutes are more than enough time to achieve 140*F.
 
Right, in the event the heater gave out. Otherwise the machine would run forever.

With residual heat from the main wash and water heating going on before and/or after the thermal hold those 30 minutes are more than enough time to achieve 140*F.
You’re contradicting yourself again.
YOU said the thermal holds can’t be overridden. When they in fact can be via a time out.
The heaters will not heat in that time frame if the fill charge is too cold. It yields depending on a hot tap fill in US households.
 
The Poweclean is great, but it’s not the be-all end all.
I am not a rinser.
I will still periodically get little yibbles and little leaf, or onion specs on dishes.
Because the PC still macerates everything and recirculates it.
Only a fraction gets filtered.


Indeed. However, eventually, all the water gets filtered through and its associated particles.

If you're getting periodic yibbles, might have an issue with the machine.



Something my past filter cup dishwashers have never left. Because the filter screens never let those particles through.
You love Whirlpool so much, yet you fail to give credit to them for their awesome filter cup system. It will self clean itself to the point where WP only recommends inspecting the cup 1-3 times… a YEAR.

At the cost of a long cycle. At best. No thanks.

The real credit belongs to Maytag. If you want true 100% filtration, go with a Maytag Jet Clean. You can tell, because those spray arm holes won't clog. Not that they clog on the Power Clean.

WP also tested their Global Wash system on video, with a a chocolate cake AND cheese pizza. It was all gone with just a little brown Schmutz on the screen.

Brown stuff on the screen? No thanks. A real filter gets hit with a continuous powerful spray from underneath the wash arm. Or in the case of Jet-Clean, a wall of four powerful sheets of water 100 times a minute.
 
Indeed. However, eventually, all the water gets filtered through and its associated particles.

If you're getting periodic yibbles, might have an issue with the machine.





At the cost of a long cycle. At best. No thanks.

The real credit belongs to Maytag. If you want true 100% filtration, go with a Maytag Jet Clean. You can tell, because those spray arm holes won't clog. Not that they clog on the Power Clean.



Brown stuff on the screen? No thanks. A real filter gets hit with a continuous powerful spray from underneath the wash arm. Or in the case of Jet-Clean, a wall of four powerful sheets of water 100 times a minute.
No issues whatsoever. It’s running as designed. It simply cannot filter 100%. It only does fractional filtering. It will run a THEORETICAL full amount of the water volume at a rate of 2x a minute through the filter.
But that’s not reality.
 
You’re contradicting yourself again.
YOU said the thermal holds can’t be overridden. When they in fact can be via a time out.
The heaters will not heat in that time frame if the fill charge is too cold. It yields depending on a hot tap fill in US households.


Nope, false, they can not be over ridden. Whether you select Normal, Heavy, Light , Pots and Pans, no options, ect the thermal hold will always commence and not advance until either the target temperature is reached or 25-40 minutes have elapsed. Which ever comes first. But the user can not skip the thermal hold altogether. Whirlpool made sure of that.

Based on cycles and options the user can skip the pre-wash thermal hold, the main wash thermal hold, but not the final rinse thermal hold in most cycles.

Whirlpool knows you need a hot final rinse to get the job done and get good drying results by starting off with a known, stable temperature when entering the dry period.

Power Cleans are meant to be connected to the hot water line and not the cold. In Europe it tends to be the opposite. They have machines that require a cold connection.
 
No issues whatsoever. It’s running as designed. It simply cannot filter 100%. It only does fractional filtering. It will run a THEORETICAL full amount of the water volume at a rate of 2x a minute through the filter.
But that’s not reality.


Right. If you run a fraction of water through the filter, the odds go up that in some point time all of the water molecules will have passed through the fine filter mesh.
 
Ohh but you CAN skip the thermal holds by going into rapid advance mode lol.

Right, though I'd rather use a dishwasher by pressing a few buttons instead of manually riding it through service mode. Or turning the dial beyond the start point on an EM model. At that point your dishwasher is no longer automatic.

Simple is better. Less labor is better.
 
This is not what people IMO are supposed to be putting up with:


That is quite frankly disgusting, and not reflective of an average dishwasher with a filter. Not even the very neglected dishwasher of my family member was that bad when I used it.

If you choose to believe filter dishwashers don’t work, or simply prefer one with a macerator that’s absolutely fine - but one can’t deny that the system works quite fine for me, friends and family, other European members on here, and millions of other households outside America, and no doubt within too.

BTW - our dishwashers can be connected to hot water, however they are so water efficient nowadays that by the time the combi boiler has initialised and heated up, in most cases only the lukewarm (at best) water resting in the pipes is used - by the time hot water reaches the machine the fill cycle has long been and gone. In some rare installations with solar hot water or pressurised hot water systems it would be somewhat useful, but more often than not it isn’t worth the bother in normal installations without wasting water by purging the system.
 
That is quite frankly disgusting, and not reflective of an average dishwasher with a filter. Not even the very neglected dishwasher of my family member was that bad when I used it.

If you choose to believe filter dishwashers don’t work, or simply prefer one with a macerator that’s absolutely fine - but one can’t deny that the system works quite fine for me, friends and family, other European members on here, and millions of other households outside America, and no doubt within too.

BTW - our dishwashers can be connected to hot water, however they are so water efficient nowadays that by the time the combi boiler has initialised and heated up, in most cases only the lukewarm (at best) water resting in the pipes is used - by the time hot water reaches the machine the fill cycle has long been and gone. In some rare installations with solar hot water or pressurised hot water systems it would be somewhat useful, but more often than not it isn’t worth the bother in normal installations without wasting water by purging the system.


As I said, it works because people are pre-rinsing. It works because people are willing to put up with a 3 hour cycles. It works with soup, bread and salad diets- vs a pan a layer of baked on egg.

With the Whirlpool Power Clean Module you could truly load with minimal prep and have everything done in 1 hour and the machine would never stink. have build up, ect. Broiler pans, frying pans, baked on casseroles, batter bowls, choppers, dishes, ect all come out clean and nothing left behind in the machine.

The Whirlpool Power Clean Filter Module also works with lukewarm water. They do thermal holds until the right temperature is reached and then shut the heater off if 140*F (or another temp based on the cycle like sani rinse ect) is reached so that excessive energy is not used. High end models had a pressure switch which would determine if a short cycle or a longer cycle with more water change outs was needed.

I get that your filters are staying clean, but for many Americans filters are getting stinky/dirty and food remains behind on the grates without pre-rinsing.
 

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