Besides many cities these days ae courting if not competing to attract the "gay" tourist and events for the dollar. A busload of queens will spend more in one day than a planeload of British tourists will in a week LOL
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That cake DOES look delish.....and like a whole lotta work <br
Pride was very nice here, with perfect weather, no incidents <br
Wishing you all a very belated but happy Pride weekend <br
And now, I think I'm going to go sleep for a week <br
Pride was very nice here, with perfect weather, no incidents <br
Wishing you all a very belated but happy Pride weekend <br
And now, I think I'm going to go sleep for a week <br
toggleswitch
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A trap? Ok I need to know once and for all......
I once heard this rumour. Is it true that the female organ has teeth in it and that any attempt to go near it and it cutzyerpekerrov? <br
(ducks and runs.) *LOL* WHOOS <br
[Yes they definitely want our money! <br <br
I once heard this rumour. Is it true that the female organ has teeth in it and that any attempt to go near it and it cutzyerpekerrov? <br
(ducks and runs.) *LOL* WHOOS <br
[Yes they definitely want our money! <br <br
whirlcool
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Thanks for your responses.
I didn't mean to infer that I am anti-gay, I just didn't understand some of the concepts of gay life. Since joining applianceville, I have learned so much, about all different kinds of things, including gay life.
Remember, with understanding comes acceptance.
Thank you all for enlightening me on this subject.
I didn't mean to infer that I am anti-gay, I just didn't understand some of the concepts of gay life. Since joining applianceville, I have learned so much, about all different kinds of things, including gay life.
Remember, with understanding comes acceptance.
Thank you all for enlightening me on this subject.
May I have some cake too 
One answer to the question as to why all the dress up is that one of the most venerated events in the history of gay pride was the Stonewall Rebellion of 1969. In the years before the ‘70s, gay life for those few people who dared be openly gay in public revolved around bars. There were almost no other venues to just meet people and socialize. Every major city had gay bars, but they were hugely discriminated against by city officials, zoning laws and the police. Raids by the cops were frequent, and to be caught in a raid could ruin a career or land one in jail on trumped up charges of lewd behavior for just being in a gay bar or touching someone of the same sex. During a raid most bar patrons made very little trouble for the cops in hopes of being allowed to quietly leave. <br
In June of ‘69 the New York City Police raided the Stonewall Inn, and to everybody’s surprise a group of drag queens fought back in the bar and street. Unlike other patrons, the drag queens were already ostracized by society and had little to lose. The police were able to overpower the drag queens but it took a bit of work to do so and the whole situation became public knowledge and rather famous. When pride parades started happening in a few larger cities in the ‘70s there was still a huge amount of ani-gay feeling in the nation, and Stonewall was often cited as a symbol that oppression and injustice could be fought . . . and of course the drag queen connection wasn’t forgotten and became a great excuse for many participants to dress up and be flamboyantly beautiful. That tradition has continued to this day, and while many of the drag queens, diesel lesbians in leather or other dressed up types wouldn't normally appear like that in public, pride parades are seen as the one day of the year to celebrate ALL apsects of the gay community.
One answer to the question as to why all the dress up is that one of the most venerated events in the history of gay pride was the Stonewall Rebellion of 1969. In the years before the ‘70s, gay life for those few people who dared be openly gay in public revolved around bars. There were almost no other venues to just meet people and socialize. Every major city had gay bars, but they were hugely discriminated against by city officials, zoning laws and the police. Raids by the cops were frequent, and to be caught in a raid could ruin a career or land one in jail on trumped up charges of lewd behavior for just being in a gay bar or touching someone of the same sex. During a raid most bar patrons made very little trouble for the cops in hopes of being allowed to quietly leave. <br
In June of ‘69 the New York City Police raided the Stonewall Inn, and to everybody’s surprise a group of drag queens fought back in the bar and street. Unlike other patrons, the drag queens were already ostracized by society and had little to lose. The police were able to overpower the drag queens but it took a bit of work to do so and the whole situation became public knowledge and rather famous. When pride parades started happening in a few larger cities in the ‘70s there was still a huge amount of ani-gay feeling in the nation, and Stonewall was often cited as a symbol that oppression and injustice could be fought . . . and of course the drag queen connection wasn’t forgotten and became a great excuse for many participants to dress up and be flamboyantly beautiful. That tradition has continued to this day, and while many of the drag queens, diesel lesbians in leather or other dressed up types wouldn't normally appear like that in public, pride parades are seen as the one day of the year to celebrate ALL apsects of the gay community.
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Actually I heard it was that the sistahs were upset at the news that Judy had died. They were not in the mood to be f---ed with, so they fought back <br
I wonder how many cops had the pleasure of being intimately acquainted with their own night sticks, before that night when the DQ shoved em...... well you know. <br
YOU GO GIRLS! I have the utmost respect for the law. But sometimes you have to bully a bully. Only thing they understand.
I wonder how many cops had the pleasure of being intimately acquainted with their own night sticks, before that night when the DQ shoved em...... well you know. <br
YOU GO GIRLS! I have the utmost respect for the law. But sometimes you have to bully a bully. Only thing they understand.
<i>[Yes they definitely want our money!] </i <br
You can say that again Toggs, with each passing year they seem to want more of our money, now don't they? I think its a good thing. Part of the Pride celebration is to celebrate how far we have come since those early days of Stonewall back in 1969. As so many have said above, it is important to remember what Pride is really all about.
You can say that again Toggs, with each passing year they seem to want more of our money, now don't they? I think its a good thing. Part of the Pride celebration is to celebrate how far we have come since those early days of Stonewall back in 1969. As so many have said above, it is important to remember what Pride is really all about.
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If I remember correctly, the Stonewall riots happened on the night of Judy Garland's funeral. Yes, I think the sistahs were indeed pretty pissed off, and had enough of the almost nightly police harrassment and raids that were part of Stonewall life. I think they got even that night...and the gay rights movement was born.
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Whirlcool,
Gays and lesbians are among the 'invisible minorities.' As such, we enjoy the ability to disappear into the mainstream, and to reap the benefits of being 'normal' whenever we find it convenient <br
'Visible minorites" (blacks, asians, women, etc.) can't hide. They are forced to contend with prejudice every day. <br
This works both for and against gays and lesbians. On the one hand, we don't have to 'admit' anything to employers, families, friends, etc., but on the other hand we go unnoticed and therefore underestimated <br
During the Carter presidency, Miss Lilian (Jimmy's mother) was asked how she and her Plains, GA cronies dealt with the "Gay Situation." Her answer? "We don't have them 'round here." <br
I tend to agree that a well-publicized freak show runs contrary to the concept of 'pride,' but at the same time I see the need for people to be aware of the fact that homosexuals are everywhere. <br
Much as I'd like to see everyone treated as equal, I just can't see the publicity possibilities of a parade which featured normal people, dressed normally, doing normal things. <br
It's a two-edged sword. It's hard to get recognition without being outre. But it's hard to be outre while trying to appear average.
Gays and lesbians are among the 'invisible minorities.' As such, we enjoy the ability to disappear into the mainstream, and to reap the benefits of being 'normal' whenever we find it convenient <br
'Visible minorites" (blacks, asians, women, etc.) can't hide. They are forced to contend with prejudice every day. <br
This works both for and against gays and lesbians. On the one hand, we don't have to 'admit' anything to employers, families, friends, etc., but on the other hand we go unnoticed and therefore underestimated <br
During the Carter presidency, Miss Lilian (Jimmy's mother) was asked how she and her Plains, GA cronies dealt with the "Gay Situation." Her answer? "We don't have them 'round here." <br
I tend to agree that a well-publicized freak show runs contrary to the concept of 'pride,' but at the same time I see the need for people to be aware of the fact that homosexuals are everywhere. <br
Much as I'd like to see everyone treated as equal, I just can't see the publicity possibilities of a parade which featured normal people, dressed normally, doing normal things. <br
It's a two-edged sword. It's hard to get recognition without being outre. But it's hard to be outre while trying to appear average.
whirlcool
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I get it now. The dressing up in drag is kind of a tribute to the Stonewall revolt, which started up the Gay Pride movement.
I remember reading even into the early 80's that police used to raid gay nightclubs in places like Dallas, Denver & Houston and cart all the patrons off to jail.
I could never figure out why the police couldn't just leave well enough alone.
I remember reading even into the early 80's that police used to raid gay nightclubs in places like Dallas, Denver & Houston and cart all the patrons off to jail.
I could never figure out why the police couldn't just leave well enough alone.
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Very nicely said everyone <br
Parunner: thank you for your kind words. I am glad you enjoyed the festivities when you present for them <br
I popped in to thank Jason above just because I thought it was so cool that he took the time to wish us a happy day <br
Whirlcool: I have always known that you are a good person and I'm glad you're part of our group. Anytime you wonder or want to know about anything, just ask us, or spend some time with the boy flight attendants on a layover sometime. They'll fix you right up with all the information you want to know, and they're lots of fun too! :- <br
Xyz: Although we do not remove people from membership for things like sexual orientation or anything similar, try inciting trouble where none exists and your outcome may vary. If you knew anything about the history of this group, you would know that at its inception its membership was very nearly 100% gay. While I'm happy for the diversity we've found over years, I have perhaps been more vocal than others in saying that we *were* here first, and while anyone's welcome to play if they can behave and want to be a postive part of the group, you are in our yard so to speak and you will tolerate us and you will respect us. Now stop going on about things you obviously know nothing about, take a lesson/example from the class and dignity of the other "non-gays" as you refer to them, from this post and throughout the club, and relax and enjoy yourself if you have an interest in the subject matter and wish to be here. That goes double for you Mr. Heterosexual Pride parade <br
Now then, I apologize for the interruption in our regularly scheduled programming, but this is something I feel rather strongly about and it is not a subject I will dance around if I feel something needs saying. Back to that beautiful multi-layer cake Robert depicted above. I would love some of that, day old or not! LO <br <br <br
Parunner: thank you for your kind words. I am glad you enjoyed the festivities when you present for them <br
I popped in to thank Jason above just because I thought it was so cool that he took the time to wish us a happy day <br
Whirlcool: I have always known that you are a good person and I'm glad you're part of our group. Anytime you wonder or want to know about anything, just ask us, or spend some time with the boy flight attendants on a layover sometime. They'll fix you right up with all the information you want to know, and they're lots of fun too! :- <br
Xyz: Although we do not remove people from membership for things like sexual orientation or anything similar, try inciting trouble where none exists and your outcome may vary. If you knew anything about the history of this group, you would know that at its inception its membership was very nearly 100% gay. While I'm happy for the diversity we've found over years, I have perhaps been more vocal than others in saying that we *were* here first, and while anyone's welcome to play if they can behave and want to be a postive part of the group, you are in our yard so to speak and you will tolerate us and you will respect us. Now stop going on about things you obviously know nothing about, take a lesson/example from the class and dignity of the other "non-gays" as you refer to them, from this post and throughout the club, and relax and enjoy yourself if you have an interest in the subject matter and wish to be here. That goes double for you Mr. Heterosexual Pride parade <br
Now then, I apologize for the interruption in our regularly scheduled programming, but this is something I feel rather strongly about and it is not a subject I will dance around if I feel something needs saying. Back to that beautiful multi-layer cake Robert depicted above. I would love some of that, day old or not! LO <br <br <br
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Great thread ...
I want some of that cake. (It looks delicious; someone worked very hard to make that.) <br
I was just cleaning out my e-mail. Here's a copy of a PathAlert that was sent during the height of yesterday's parade: <br
"Do to crowding at the Christopher st. station Path trains will not stop at the Christopher st. station. Passengers are advised to use the 9th. st. station to gain access
To access further updates that may be posted on the Port Authority Web site,
simply click on: http://www.panynj.gov/CommutingTravel/path/html/path_alert.htm <br
To unsubscribe, click on: http://www.paalerts.com/alertunsubscribe.aspx" <br
Path is the subway that connects New York and New Jersey. The Christopher Street Path Station is only a couple of blocks from Stonewall. (The Ninth Street station might be a little closer.) I think that it's awesome that so many people went to the parade <br
Mike
I want some of that cake. (It looks delicious; someone worked very hard to make that.) <br
I was just cleaning out my e-mail. Here's a copy of a PathAlert that was sent during the height of yesterday's parade: <br
"Do to crowding at the Christopher st. station Path trains will not stop at the Christopher st. station. Passengers are advised to use the 9th. st. station to gain access
To access further updates that may be posted on the Port Authority Web site,
simply click on: http://www.panynj.gov/CommutingTravel/path/html/path_alert.htm <br
To unsubscribe, click on: http://www.paalerts.com/alertunsubscribe.aspx" <br
Path is the subway that connects New York and New Jersey. The Christopher Street Path Station is only a couple of blocks from Stonewall. (The Ninth Street station might be a little closer.) I think that it's awesome that so many people went to the parade <br
Mike
Well mr BTJustice <br
If you ever felt discriminated as a heterosexual perhaps you'd better start organizing a heterosexual parade <br
And if you are here to discuss washing machines and detergent perhaps you'd better stick to the threads about it <br
Enjoy your cake <br
Louis
If you ever felt discriminated as a heterosexual perhaps you'd better start organizing a heterosexual parade <br
And if you are here to discuss washing machines and detergent perhaps you'd better stick to the threads about it <br
Enjoy your cake <br
Louis
"It never ceases to amaze me that when gays talk badly of heterosexuals that they are within their rights to do so but vice versa it becomes a hate crime." <br
And it never ceases to amaze me how eager some people are to paint themselves as victims. <br
No one is forcing you to visit this thread. And I would think that even a bigot - who are not known for their intellect, after all - would have been able to tell what the content was by the title. <br
You could have opted not to click, knowing that it would affect your "sensibilities", such as they are. And, once clicked, you could have been content to keep your opinion to yourself. But no - you had to be the victim. Story of your life, I'm sure. Like our President, nothing is ever your fault <br
Finally, are you paying for membership in this site? Nope, I didn't think so. So take your whining someplace else. <br <br
And it never ceases to amaze me how eager some people are to paint themselves as victims. <br
No one is forcing you to visit this thread. And I would think that even a bigot - who are not known for their intellect, after all - would have been able to tell what the content was by the title. <br
You could have opted not to click, knowing that it would affect your "sensibilities", such as they are. And, once clicked, you could have been content to keep your opinion to yourself. But no - you had to be the victim. Story of your life, I'm sure. Like our President, nothing is ever your fault <br
Finally, are you paying for membership in this site? Nope, I didn't think so. So take your whining someplace else. <br <br
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Scott, i have to agree with everything you said in your post. My understanding is that this site is funded and operated by gay men, and the majority who enjoy this site are gay. everyone has been welcome as long as ive been here. <br
*HOWEVER <br
it is foolish and thoughtless and ungracious and ignorant and RUDE to persue any arguement that might offend. if you have a problem with gay people shut up about it. there is no room for debate.
*HOWEVER <br
it is foolish and thoughtless and ungracious and ignorant and RUDE to persue any arguement that might offend. if you have a problem with gay people shut up about it. there is no room for debate.
Can't we just have some generalized people pride? :- <br
Yay!
Yay!
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Woohoo...sooo much to read and so few time....
Only thing I want to announce is: The big parade in Cologne takes place the weekend 6th-8th July 2007!
We'll be there!!!
Throughout the whole summer we have CSD-parades here in Germany in most bigger cities like Frankfurt, Düsseldorf, Hamburg, Berlin, Köln, Mannheim, Nürnberg, Hannover, München, Stuttgart and so on..... <br
Ralf
Only thing I want to announce is: The big parade in Cologne takes place the weekend 6th-8th July 2007!
We'll be there!!!
Throughout the whole summer we have CSD-parades here in Germany in most bigger cities like Frankfurt, Düsseldorf, Hamburg, Berlin, Köln, Mannheim, Nürnberg, Hannover, München, Stuttgart and so on..... <br
Ralf
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SF Pride
For what it's worth, this year the parade in SF was officially re-named the Pride Parade, no longer the Gay Pride Parade. According to the TV parade commentators, this was because "Gay Pride" was thought not to be inclusive enough of the wide spectrum the parade represents - gays, lesbians, bi-sexuals, transgenders. Did I leave anyone out? LOL
For what it's worth, this year the parade in SF was officially re-named the Pride Parade, no longer the Gay Pride Parade. According to the TV parade commentators, this was because "Gay Pride" was thought not to be inclusive enough of the wide spectrum the parade represents - gays, lesbians, bi-sexuals, transgenders. Did I leave anyone out? LOL
Hey Rich....
Nice to see a fellow member from the Bay Area. Email me sometime. I'm curious to learn where you are in the Bay Area. <br
Mik <br
BTW, great looking cake Robert. Did you make that yourself? Looking forward to meeting you in Omaha. You will be in Omaha won't you <br
Nice to see a fellow member from the Bay Area. Email me sometime. I'm curious to learn where you are in the Bay Area. <br
Mik <br
BTW, great looking cake Robert. Did you make that yourself? Looking forward to meeting you in Omaha. You will be in Omaha won't you <br
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BT, I'll attempt to respectfully respond to your comments, and this final post will be all I'll say publicly unless the conversation were to continue about the cake or the various events. Dan, Brett and Louis also made some very good comments and observations that I agree with <br
I don't want to debate amongst those who would just as soon the subject be closed. I said as much as I did mainly, as I said, because I felt strongly that it needed saying. You could then always email if there's anything else you'd want to ask or need to know <br
I agree and appreciate the fact that you merely made a statement as it were. If that is your opinion, it is yours and valid to you. I've seen postings of yours in other on topic threads and I will say that you've been polite and respectful to whomever you've encountered as far as I've seen, and as such I think the membership would welcome your participation, and I speak in general terms as it would not be my decision to make, nor am I authorized to speak for others <br
You are indeed correct as to your interpretation of the topic of the forum at large. However, this particular "Super" section has a more open interpretation of the topics posted within, and there are off topic posts that appear here. Particularly since this thread was started by the webmaster, I expect it was in his mind and discretion an acceptable topic to post about, since it was special to him and he knew that it would be of interest to many readers <br
Although I'm not heterosexual and as such probably don't see things as you might, I don't personally see a need for a heterosexual pride parade quite frankly, but you maybe do and we have in this case a differing opinion, which we're each entitled to our version. I guess what bothered me is that I just didn't see throwing that statement out there in the middle of a positive discussion amongst friends as necessary or appropriate. Maybe Vet's Day doesn't cut it, but in my mind I commended Greg for his lighthearted response. To be fair, it might have been left at that had xyz not shown his a-s-s to the world and ruffled my feathers anew to begin with <br
If you held or attended a heterosexual parade put on by someone else and posted about it, you may not get a lot of replies, but those you did would be more in the lines of hope you had fun or whatever, or we might just read and move on or skip it, since it didn't apply to us. You may have elected to take a similar tack. It's probably easier for you that way, too. Calling out someone's chosen costume in a picture as "sick" was inappropriate and uncalled for as well, given the position you'd by then found yourself in. Like many things, voicing of opinions has a time and a place, and I think we all have situations where we know it's best to keep ours personal. This would be one of those situations, much like you wouldn't likely express all your true opinions to your boss, mother-in-law or what have you <br
I meant no disrespect to you or your opinions, from that standpoint whether or not we agree is irrelevant. I don't imagine we'll ever see eye to eye on this topic, but if you enjoy or are interested in the general subject matter of the forum I hope you'll continue to participate, and if you happen to pose a question about something I know about, I'll do what I can to help. Fair enough <br
That might be a pretty big piece of cake for just before bed. I'll cut it in half, and we can each have some. As someone who does some baking for leisure, I can tell you that putting that together with all those colors and layers was no small feat <br
Good night, and you can reach me at [email protected] if you need to.
I don't want to debate amongst those who would just as soon the subject be closed. I said as much as I did mainly, as I said, because I felt strongly that it needed saying. You could then always email if there's anything else you'd want to ask or need to know <br
I agree and appreciate the fact that you merely made a statement as it were. If that is your opinion, it is yours and valid to you. I've seen postings of yours in other on topic threads and I will say that you've been polite and respectful to whomever you've encountered as far as I've seen, and as such I think the membership would welcome your participation, and I speak in general terms as it would not be my decision to make, nor am I authorized to speak for others <br
You are indeed correct as to your interpretation of the topic of the forum at large. However, this particular "Super" section has a more open interpretation of the topics posted within, and there are off topic posts that appear here. Particularly since this thread was started by the webmaster, I expect it was in his mind and discretion an acceptable topic to post about, since it was special to him and he knew that it would be of interest to many readers <br
Although I'm not heterosexual and as such probably don't see things as you might, I don't personally see a need for a heterosexual pride parade quite frankly, but you maybe do and we have in this case a differing opinion, which we're each entitled to our version. I guess what bothered me is that I just didn't see throwing that statement out there in the middle of a positive discussion amongst friends as necessary or appropriate. Maybe Vet's Day doesn't cut it, but in my mind I commended Greg for his lighthearted response. To be fair, it might have been left at that had xyz not shown his a-s-s to the world and ruffled my feathers anew to begin with <br
If you held or attended a heterosexual parade put on by someone else and posted about it, you may not get a lot of replies, but those you did would be more in the lines of hope you had fun or whatever, or we might just read and move on or skip it, since it didn't apply to us. You may have elected to take a similar tack. It's probably easier for you that way, too. Calling out someone's chosen costume in a picture as "sick" was inappropriate and uncalled for as well, given the position you'd by then found yourself in. Like many things, voicing of opinions has a time and a place, and I think we all have situations where we know it's best to keep ours personal. This would be one of those situations, much like you wouldn't likely express all your true opinions to your boss, mother-in-law or what have you <br
I meant no disrespect to you or your opinions, from that standpoint whether or not we agree is irrelevant. I don't imagine we'll ever see eye to eye on this topic, but if you enjoy or are interested in the general subject matter of the forum I hope you'll continue to participate, and if you happen to pose a question about something I know about, I'll do what I can to help. Fair enough <br
That might be a pretty big piece of cake for just before bed. I'll cut it in half, and we can each have some. As someone who does some baking for leisure, I can tell you that putting that together with all those colors and layers was no small feat <br
Good night, and you can reach me at [email protected] if you need to.
<i>BTW, great looking cake Robert. Did you make that yourself? Looking forward to meeting you in Omaha. You will be in Omaha won't you?</i <br
Hi Mike, thanks but I can't take credit for that cake. With seven layers and all that frosting in between it sure does look good! Yes I will be in Omaha, while I only have a few vintage vacuums, I wouldn't miss seeing all the people in the vacuum club again for anything. I'm so looking forward to meeting you as well <br <br
As for you BTJustice, none of us are fooled by this silly “Heterosexual Pride” nonsense. No one would call you a bigot for organizing a Straight Pride festival if your motives are sincere and would like a day to celebrate your Heterosexual orientation. I for one would then support your festival 100%, I bet it would be fun to go to. But if your motives to have this festival are simply a way of counteracting or somehow to dismiss the importance of our Gay Pride Holiday then you are a bigot, it is as simple as that. When you make statements such as calling our silly Mr. Bubble Gum Machine "SICK" that is very much derogatory in regards to this thread's subject, so don’t tell us otherwise. It is quite clear to us here what your motives are. The reason for this thread is to wish everyone a Happy Holiday, nothing more, go back and reread the very first post, it was written quite clearly. Something tells me you wouldn’t have asked why is a Merry Christmas thread posted in a on a Washing Machine website. I can tell by your IP address the general vicnity of where you are typing this from, but you are reaching out to people in Minneapolis, Los Angeles, Seattle, New York City, Berlin, London, Boston, Miami, etc. and you are expected to treat everyone you encounter here with respect. Otherwise you won’t be writing anything here. Not once did I hear you simply say “Happy Holidays everyone”. Maybe next year when you see this very thread again, and I can promise you it will be here, you can simply say “Happy Holidays my friends, have a great day” <br
And as for Mr. Bubble Gum Machine, it’s Ms. Bubble Gum Machine thank you very much.
Hi Mike, thanks but I can't take credit for that cake. With seven layers and all that frosting in between it sure does look good! Yes I will be in Omaha, while I only have a few vintage vacuums, I wouldn't miss seeing all the people in the vacuum club again for anything. I'm so looking forward to meeting you as well <br <br
As for you BTJustice, none of us are fooled by this silly “Heterosexual Pride” nonsense. No one would call you a bigot for organizing a Straight Pride festival if your motives are sincere and would like a day to celebrate your Heterosexual orientation. I for one would then support your festival 100%, I bet it would be fun to go to. But if your motives to have this festival are simply a way of counteracting or somehow to dismiss the importance of our Gay Pride Holiday then you are a bigot, it is as simple as that. When you make statements such as calling our silly Mr. Bubble Gum Machine "SICK" that is very much derogatory in regards to this thread's subject, so don’t tell us otherwise. It is quite clear to us here what your motives are. The reason for this thread is to wish everyone a Happy Holiday, nothing more, go back and reread the very first post, it was written quite clearly. Something tells me you wouldn’t have asked why is a Merry Christmas thread posted in a on a Washing Machine website. I can tell by your IP address the general vicnity of where you are typing this from, but you are reaching out to people in Minneapolis, Los Angeles, Seattle, New York City, Berlin, London, Boston, Miami, etc. and you are expected to treat everyone you encounter here with respect. Otherwise you won’t be writing anything here. Not once did I hear you simply say “Happy Holidays everyone”. Maybe next year when you see this very thread again, and I can promise you it will be here, you can simply say “Happy Holidays my friends, have a great day” <br
And as for Mr. Bubble Gum Machine, it’s Ms. Bubble Gum Machine thank you very much.
My partner and I happened to be in SF early on parade morning. It was a beautiful day and we drove up to the pink triangle on Twin Peaks and took in the view. We didn't stay for the parade as my partner doesn't like crowd scenes. The City was strangely asleep and streets were empty. The calm before the storm. We headed back to suburbia where we behaved like normal suburban people for the remainder of the day, working in the yard, etc.--BT please take note <br
I am not even remotely into the whole cross-dressing and flamboyancy side of the gay subculture. I am gay because I like men, real men, and not men who want to dress up like or even be turned into a woman. But hey, to each his own, and that is what the whole pride thing is about <br
Kevin's (selectomatic) post above nails it. The freak show can be seen as counterproductive, but the parade BT wants with "normal" heterosexual people doing "normal" things wouldn't get shred of media coverage. The fact is, BT, straight people have their parade 365/52. <br
The freak show element is not a true reflection of the overwhelming majority of mainstream regular people who just happen to find people of their same gender attractive and who generally don't wear their sexuality on their sleeve. I don't agree with the way the media picks up on the freak show element, it's bad PR for those of us who prefer to blend in, but blending in is a boring news story and would make for a very boring parade. Let 'em have their fun. You don't have to participate, spectate or read a thread like this one if you don't want to, BT.
I am not even remotely into the whole cross-dressing and flamboyancy side of the gay subculture. I am gay because I like men, real men, and not men who want to dress up like or even be turned into a woman. But hey, to each his own, and that is what the whole pride thing is about <br
Kevin's (selectomatic) post above nails it. The freak show can be seen as counterproductive, but the parade BT wants with "normal" heterosexual people doing "normal" things wouldn't get shred of media coverage. The fact is, BT, straight people have their parade 365/52. <br
The freak show element is not a true reflection of the overwhelming majority of mainstream regular people who just happen to find people of their same gender attractive and who generally don't wear their sexuality on their sleeve. I don't agree with the way the media picks up on the freak show element, it's bad PR for those of us who prefer to blend in, but blending in is a boring news story and would make for a very boring parade. Let 'em have their fun. You don't have to participate, spectate or read a thread like this one if you don't want to, BT.
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Happy Pride Day
I hope you all had a terrific Pride Day. I am sorry I missed out on it. I enjoy seeing the gamut of the community and the fun coming out of those pictures. I truly regret those who post remarks, some innocent, some deliberately inflamitory. I've thought of things to say any number of times, and stopped myself, as I have considered the possibility of being misunderstood, or they may be innappropriate to groups that contain underage members. I love humor, I believe I have a great sense of humor, it gets pretty off the wall at times. It is evil to undermine these two great groups with antagonistic posts. Regardless of anyone's orientation or personal beliefs, I respect all, and know that the only reason anyone would be encouraged to leave would be because of a combatative or cruel nature on the part of the offender. Every good person belongs here, whatever you believe. Thanks for being one of the two best groups on the internet.
I hope you all had a terrific Pride Day. I am sorry I missed out on it. I enjoy seeing the gamut of the community and the fun coming out of those pictures. I truly regret those who post remarks, some innocent, some deliberately inflamitory. I've thought of things to say any number of times, and stopped myself, as I have considered the possibility of being misunderstood, or they may be innappropriate to groups that contain underage members. I love humor, I believe I have a great sense of humor, it gets pretty off the wall at times. It is evil to undermine these two great groups with antagonistic posts. Regardless of anyone's orientation or personal beliefs, I respect all, and know that the only reason anyone would be encouraged to leave would be because of a combatative or cruel nature on the part of the offender. Every good person belongs here, whatever you believe. Thanks for being one of the two best groups on the internet.
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You know, Mr. XYZ, you're being silly and defensive for no reason. When you venture into someone else's home, you conduct yourself accordingly, and take your host's sensitivities into account. That's just being kind and respectful. You don't necessarily have to agree with your host, but you still respect your host, because you're visiting your host's home. So think of this as your host's home, where lots and lots of your hosts family come to visit very often. Most of your host's family could care less about what a female "organ" can do, because they are not attracted to females, nor understand the need for such a reference. Why you feel it necessary to say something like that is beyond me, but so be it. If you are enough of a man who is comfortable in his skin, as members such as JasonL are, to be comfortable in this environment, then great, welcome to your host's home. Come in and have some cake!! If you're not, then why don't you just get the fuck out and not make derogatory comments that are either silly or offensive to your host and his family? You know better, and you're really the one that's "setting the trap", or stirring the shit. My sincere apologies if I've read you incorrectly, but come on man, just be a nice guy and play nice with the kids. Gay Pride is an important event to gay people everywhere, and you've not had to live through the torment that many here have, so yes, we celebrate it wholeheartedly. <br
I'm not taking offense to anything you've said, I just think you're being silly, and you're better than that, I hope.
I'm not taking offense to anything you've said, I just think you're being silly, and you're better than that, I hope.
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OK XYZ, you would be the one whom I would judge as combatitive and cruel. I think B.T. Justice maybe made observations that were misconstrued. I don't believe for a minute anyone is hankering to ban you from this site. But I can not speak for the people that moderate this site, either. I respect straight people, and marriage. I am gay, and I respect all aspects of the alternative scene, even though I am one of the ones who lean heavily to the normal side of that life. I used to entertain, never got paid for it btw, but those days are long over. Nothing beats a good drag show, however. I also believe there are more straight on gay crimes than there are gay on straight. I think that's why so many of us are on the defensive. I may be wrong about you, I hope I am. Please have a great day, we care
Respectfully, Alan
Respectfully, Alan
XYZ, you have revealed yourself by making the reference to the female organ. You appear to be one of those people who feels that homosexuality is a conscious choice, not a product of genetics, and something that a guy can change about himself. That's not only incorrect, but ignorant. I can't get excited over a female organ any more than you can get excited over a male organ. In fact, casual statistics would indicate that men like you have me beat. I am constantly hearing stories about supposedly straight men demonstrating very un-straight behavior in gym showers and locker rooms. The fact is, and you can even ask Oprah about this one, that "straight" men are out there having sex with other men in significant numbers. And these "straight" men almost invariably prefer the submissive role--the ultimate submissive role if you know what I mean. It appears that very few men out there are 100% straight. Take a poll (or a "pole") in any prison and see how straight those thugs and bruisers behave. Testosterone is a very powerful hormone. Do you watch the UFC? Do you see all the straight men out there watching two powerful testosterone-laden men trying to wrestle each other into complete submission? I can't help but think that every last one of those men subconsciously (or consciously) wants to submit to either of the two men in the boxing ring. Joe Rogan even more so. <br
X, you get excited over a soft, squishy, fragile female and I get excited over a big, beefy, and in particular, sturdy man. That's just the way we were made. You could have ended up just like me if one of those millions of your dad's other sperm made it to the egg first. That's what this boils down to. It's not a choice, it's the luck of the conceptual draw. Personally, I feel very lucky to have turned out how I did. Men are so easy, they know what they want, no dinner or diamonds required, just get down to the business of mutual satisfaction. Women are way too much work, and I'm not into wasting my time when it comes to satisfying a healthy NORMAL physical need. I don't need that BS. Yep, I feel pretty lucky to be a man's man and wouldn't want to change a thing about that.
X, you get excited over a soft, squishy, fragile female and I get excited over a big, beefy, and in particular, sturdy man. That's just the way we were made. You could have ended up just like me if one of those millions of your dad's other sperm made it to the egg first. That's what this boils down to. It's not a choice, it's the luck of the conceptual draw. Personally, I feel very lucky to have turned out how I did. Men are so easy, they know what they want, no dinner or diamonds required, just get down to the business of mutual satisfaction. Women are way too much work, and I'm not into wasting my time when it comes to satisfying a healthy NORMAL physical need. I don't need that BS. Yep, I feel pretty lucky to be a man's man and wouldn't want to change a thing about that.
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Gee whiz, XYZ! You really are a hateful person. Sorry I thought you were worth anything.
lol!! Thats the way it always is. Some people always have to be the ignorant bigots, and put their nose where it doesn't belong. Like this thread, or a gay bar, or a gay party, ect. Well, some gay people are not so tolerant. It is because of dealing with ignorant bigots like these two for years. And we have a special way of dealing with people like these. Lots of times tolerance doesn't pay, but where I come from violence always gets the job done. I don't claim to be tolerant, because I got tired of waiting. Parades and all that are cool, but they don't do anything but make people aware that you exist. Thats all they do.
XYZ --aka-- Rolltideroll --aka-- AgitateThis --aka-- Jimbo, I banned you last year because of your rude, homophobic remarks. After a few months I decided to let your IP addresses view and post to the site again thinking maybe this guy would get the hint and be nice since he really does appear to like washers. Did I make a mistake, looks like I might have <br
As for your question of banning, no I have not banned anyone so far. As for your question of Tolerance, I am very tolerant around here, but I will not under any circumstances tolerate any homophobia, racism or any other form of discriminatory speech against any minority group PERIOD. If in your mind that is being intolerant on my part then so be it, I couldn’t care less. By law anywhere in this state if I walked into my place of work and made any discriminatory remarks against any specific minority group, gay people included, I would be fired on the spot and rightfully so, that is the way I also run this website. PERIOD <br
Now later on tonight or tomorrow when I have time, I’m going to remove the posts from this thread that have discriminatory overtones and we are going to have our Happy Holiday thread once and for all. <br
As for any of your other remarks they are so preposterous that they will not get any response out of me. Please return to the other forums and talk about washers <br
I guess I need to say it one more time, Happy Pride Everyone.
As for your question of banning, no I have not banned anyone so far. As for your question of Tolerance, I am very tolerant around here, but I will not under any circumstances tolerate any homophobia, racism or any other form of discriminatory speech against any minority group PERIOD. If in your mind that is being intolerant on my part then so be it, I couldn’t care less. By law anywhere in this state if I walked into my place of work and made any discriminatory remarks against any specific minority group, gay people included, I would be fired on the spot and rightfully so, that is the way I also run this website. PERIOD <br
Now later on tonight or tomorrow when I have time, I’m going to remove the posts from this thread that have discriminatory overtones and we are going to have our Happy Holiday thread once and for all. <br
As for any of your other remarks they are so preposterous that they will not get any response out of me. Please return to the other forums and talk about washers <br
I guess I need to say it one more time, Happy Pride Everyone.
