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BT, I'll attempt to respectfully respond to your comments, and this final post will be all I'll say publicly unless the conversation were to continue about the cake or the various events. Dan, Brett and Louis also made some very good comments and observations that I agree with <br
I don't want to debate amongst those who would just as soon the subject be closed. I said as much as I did mainly, as I said, because I felt strongly that it needed saying. You could then always email if there's anything else you'd want to ask or need to know <br
I agree and appreciate the fact that you merely made a statement as it were. If that is your opinion, it is yours and valid to you. I've seen postings of yours in other on topic threads and I will say that you've been polite and respectful to whomever you've encountered as far as I've seen, and as such I think the membership would welcome your participation, and I speak in general terms as it would not be my decision to make, nor am I authorized to speak for others <br
You are indeed correct as to your interpretation of the topic of the forum at large. However, this particular "Super" section has a more open interpretation of the topics posted within, and there are off topic posts that appear here. Particularly since this thread was started by the webmaster, I expect it was in his mind and discretion an acceptable topic to post about, since it was special to him and he knew that it would be of interest to many readers <br
Although I'm not heterosexual and as such probably don't see things as you might, I don't personally see a need for a heterosexual pride parade quite frankly, but you maybe do and we have in this case a differing opinion, which we're each entitled to our version. I guess what bothered me is that I just didn't see throwing that statement out there in the middle of a positive discussion amongst friends as necessary or appropriate. Maybe Vet's Day doesn't cut it, but in my mind I commended Greg for his lighthearted response. To be fair, it might have been left at that had xyz not shown his a-s-s to the world and ruffled my feathers anew to begin with <br
If you held or attended a heterosexual parade put on by someone else and posted about it, you may not get a lot of replies, but those you did would be more in the lines of hope you had fun or whatever, or we might just read and move on or skip it, since it didn't apply to us. You may have elected to take a similar tack. It's probably easier for you that way, too. Calling out someone's chosen costume in a picture as "sick" was inappropriate and uncalled for as well, given the position you'd by then found yourself in. Like many things, voicing of opinions has a time and a place, and I think we all have situations where we know it's best to keep ours personal. This would be one of those situations, much like you wouldn't likely express all your true opinions to your boss, mother-in-law or what have you <br
I meant no disrespect to you or your opinions, from that standpoint whether or not we agree is irrelevant. I don't imagine we'll ever see eye to eye on this topic, but if you enjoy or are interested in the general subject matter of the forum I hope you'll continue to participate, and if you happen to pose a question about something I know about, I'll do what I can to help. Fair enough <br
That might be a pretty big piece of cake for just before bed. I'll cut it in half, and we can each have some. As someone who does some baking for leisure, I can tell you that putting that together with all those colors and layers was no small feat <br
Good night, and you can reach me at [email protected] if you need to.
 
<i>BTW, great looking cake Robert. Did you make that yourself? Looking forward to meeting you in Omaha. You will be in Omaha won't you?</i <br
Hi Mike, thanks but I can't take credit for that cake. With seven layers and all that frosting in between it sure does look good! Yes I will be in Omaha, while I only have a few vintage vacuums, I wouldn't miss seeing all the people in the vacuum club again for anything. I'm so looking forward to meeting you as well <br <br
As for you BTJustice, none of us are fooled by this silly “Heterosexual Pride” nonsense. No one would call you a bigot for organizing a Straight Pride festival if your motives are sincere and would like a day to celebrate your Heterosexual orientation. I for one would then support your festival 100%, I bet it would be fun to go to. But if your motives to have this festival are simply a way of counteracting or somehow to dismiss the importance of our Gay Pride Holiday then you are a bigot, it is as simple as that. When you make statements such as calling our silly Mr. Bubble Gum Machine "SICK" that is very much derogatory in regards to this thread's subject, so don’t tell us otherwise. It is quite clear to us here what your motives are. The reason for this thread is to wish everyone a Happy Holiday, nothing more, go back and reread the very first post, it was written quite clearly. Something tells me you wouldn’t have asked why is a Merry Christmas thread posted in a on a Washing Machine website. I can tell by your IP address the general vicnity of where you are typing this from, but you are reaching out to people in Minneapolis, Los Angeles, Seattle, New York City, Berlin, London, Boston, Miami, etc. and you are expected to treat everyone you encounter here with respect. Otherwise you won’t be writing anything here. Not once did I hear you simply say “Happy Holidays everyone”. Maybe next year when you see this very thread again, and I can promise you it will be here, you can simply say “Happy Holidays my friends, have a great day” <br
And as for Mr. Bubble Gum Machine, it’s Ms. Bubble Gum Machine thank you very much.
 
My partner and I happened to be in SF early on parade morning. It was a beautiful day and we drove up to the pink triangle on Twin Peaks and took in the view. We didn't stay for the parade as my partner doesn't like crowd scenes. The City was strangely asleep and streets were empty. The calm before the storm. We headed back to suburbia where we behaved like normal suburban people for the remainder of the day, working in the yard, etc.--BT please take note <br
I am not even remotely into the whole cross-dressing and flamboyancy side of the gay subculture. I am gay because I like men, real men, and not men who want to dress up like or even be turned into a woman. But hey, to each his own, and that is what the whole pride thing is about <br
Kevin's (selectomatic) post above nails it. The freak show can be seen as counterproductive, but the parade BT wants with "normal" heterosexual people doing "normal" things wouldn't get shred of media coverage. The fact is, BT, straight people have their parade 365/52. <br
The freak show element is not a true reflection of the overwhelming majority of mainstream regular people who just happen to find people of their same gender attractive and who generally don't wear their sexuality on their sleeve. I don't agree with the way the media picks up on the freak show element, it's bad PR for those of us who prefer to blend in, but blending in is a boring news story and would make for a very boring parade. Let 'em have their fun. You don't have to participate, spectate or read a thread like this one if you don't want to, BT.
 
Happy Pride Day

I hope you all had a terrific Pride Day. I am sorry I missed out on it. I enjoy seeing the gamut of the community and the fun coming out of those pictures. I truly regret those who post remarks, some innocent, some deliberately inflamitory. I've thought of things to say any number of times, and stopped myself, as I have considered the possibility of being misunderstood, or they may be innappropriate to groups that contain underage members. I love humor, I believe I have a great sense of humor, it gets pretty off the wall at times. It is evil to undermine these two great groups with antagonistic posts. Regardless of anyone's orientation or personal beliefs, I respect all, and know that the only reason anyone would be encouraged to leave would be because of a combatative or cruel nature on the part of the offender. Every good person belongs here, whatever you believe. Thanks for being one of the two best groups on the internet.
 
You know, Mr. XYZ, you're being silly and defensive for no reason. When you venture into someone else's home, you conduct yourself accordingly, and take your host's sensitivities into account. That's just being kind and respectful. You don't necessarily have to agree with your host, but you still respect your host, because you're visiting your host's home. So think of this as your host's home, where lots and lots of your hosts family come to visit very often. Most of your host's family could care less about what a female "organ" can do, because they are not attracted to females, nor understand the need for such a reference. Why you feel it necessary to say something like that is beyond me, but so be it. If you are enough of a man who is comfortable in his skin, as members such as JasonL are, to be comfortable in this environment, then great, welcome to your host's home. Come in and have some cake!! If you're not, then why don't you just get the fuck out and not make derogatory comments that are either silly or offensive to your host and his family? You know better, and you're really the one that's "setting the trap", or stirring the shit. My sincere apologies if I've read you incorrectly, but come on man, just be a nice guy and play nice with the kids. Gay Pride is an important event to gay people everywhere, and you've not had to live through the torment that many here have, so yes, we celebrate it wholeheartedly. <br
I'm not taking offense to anything you've said, I just think you're being silly, and you're better than that, I hope.
 
OK XYZ, you would be the one whom I would judge as combatitive and cruel. I think B.T. Justice maybe made observations that were misconstrued. I don't believe for a minute anyone is hankering to ban you from this site. But I can not speak for the people that moderate this site, either. I respect straight people, and marriage. I am gay, and I respect all aspects of the alternative scene, even though I am one of the ones who lean heavily to the normal side of that life. I used to entertain, never got paid for it btw, but those days are long over. Nothing beats a good drag show, however. I also believe there are more straight on gay crimes than there are gay on straight. I think that's why so many of us are on the defensive. I may be wrong about you, I hope I am. Please have a great day, we care
Respectfully, Alan
 
XYZ, you have revealed yourself by making the reference to the female organ. You appear to be one of those people who feels that homosexuality is a conscious choice, not a product of genetics, and something that a guy can change about himself. That's not only incorrect, but ignorant. I can't get excited over a female organ any more than you can get excited over a male organ. In fact, casual statistics would indicate that men like you have me beat. I am constantly hearing stories about supposedly straight men demonstrating very un-straight behavior in gym showers and locker rooms. The fact is, and you can even ask Oprah about this one, that "straight" men are out there having sex with other men in significant numbers. And these "straight" men almost invariably prefer the submissive role--the ultimate submissive role if you know what I mean. It appears that very few men out there are 100% straight. Take a poll (or a "pole") in any prison and see how straight those thugs and bruisers behave. Testosterone is a very powerful hormone. Do you watch the UFC? Do you see all the straight men out there watching two powerful testosterone-laden men trying to wrestle each other into complete submission? I can't help but think that every last one of those men subconsciously (or consciously) wants to submit to either of the two men in the boxing ring. Joe Rogan even more so. <br
X, you get excited over a soft, squishy, fragile female and I get excited over a big, beefy, and in particular, sturdy man. That's just the way we were made. You could have ended up just like me if one of those millions of your dad's other sperm made it to the egg first. That's what this boils down to. It's not a choice, it's the luck of the conceptual draw. Personally, I feel very lucky to have turned out how I did. Men are so easy, they know what they want, no dinner or diamonds required, just get down to the business of mutual satisfaction. Women are way too much work, and I'm not into wasting my time when it comes to satisfying a healthy NORMAL physical need. I don't need that BS. Yep, I feel pretty lucky to be a man's man and wouldn't want to change a thing about that.
 
lol!! Thats the way it always is. Some people always have to be the ignorant bigots, and put their nose where it doesn't belong. Like this thread, or a gay bar, or a gay party, ect. Well, some gay people are not so tolerant. It is because of dealing with ignorant bigots like these two for years. And we have a special way of dealing with people like these. Lots of times tolerance doesn't pay, but where I come from violence always gets the job done. I don't claim to be tolerant, because I got tired of waiting. Parades and all that are cool, but they don't do anything but make people aware that you exist. Thats all they do.
 
XYZ --aka-- Rolltideroll --aka-- AgitateThis --aka-- Jimbo, I banned you last year because of your rude, homophobic remarks. After a few months I decided to let your IP addresses view and post to the site again thinking maybe this guy would get the hint and be nice since he really does appear to like washers. Did I make a mistake, looks like I might have <br
As for your question of banning, no I have not banned anyone so far. As for your question of Tolerance, I am very tolerant around here, but I will not under any circumstances tolerate any homophobia, racism or any other form of discriminatory speech against any minority group PERIOD. If in your mind that is being intolerant on my part then so be it, I couldn’t care less. By law anywhere in this state if I walked into my place of work and made any discriminatory remarks against any specific minority group, gay people included, I would be fired on the spot and rightfully so, that is the way I also run this website. PERIOD <br
Now later on tonight or tomorrow when I have time, I’m going to remove the posts from this thread that have discriminatory overtones and we are going to have our Happy Holiday thread once and for all. <br
As for any of your other remarks they are so preposterous that they will not get any response out of me. Please return to the other forums and talk about washers <br
I guess I need to say it one more time, Happy Pride Everyone.
 
X, Robert (unimatic) OWNS this site. He puts a lot of time and energy into it. He can reserve the right to refuse service to anyone regardless of whether you or I feel he is right or wrong in exercising that right. <br
Like other posters above, I find it curious that you would even click on this thread, given its title and your obvious issues with and misconceptions about gay people. Would you mind sharing with the rest of us what motivated you to delve into a thread that goes against your core values? Inquiring minds want to know.
 
Not meaning to divert the tenor of this thread, but . . .

Can I ask a trivial question? What is the significance of the cake references on here? I see them all the time, not only on this thread but also on others. Things like "Have some cake," etc <br
I actually did a search on it, thinking it might be some kind of popular colloquialism, but I found nothing <br
Am I missing something? This has been bugging the heck out of me, so I just had to ask <br
Thanks
 
It's our way of diffusing bombs. <br
Hospitality
Food
Comfort
Socializing
Gathering <br
Perhaps, even filling one's hole so it can't speak nonsense
And of course WHO could complain about a face full of whipped cream? <br
Nut cake, fruit cake, chocolate cake, carrot cake. rainbow cake. Bunt cake....... We serve 'em all!
 
I've said it earlier and

I'll say it again <br
"Down with fundamentalism in any faith!&quot
Or Political View Point <br
It's time all moderate people in the world smashed the fundamentalist movement world wide <br
The love of God is unconditional, with all your comments do you think you are greater than God to decide who gets love and who doesn't? Who are you to decide what normal is <br
XYZ I doubt you ever were fired from your job due to your supposed sexuality! Were you <br
Louis, I love what you wrote <br
 
Robert, I applaud you...

You said what needed to be said, succinctly and to the point. And, I applaud your decisive, fair-minded action. <br
Sadly, it appears that some people have too much time on their hands and seem to enjoy stirring the pot and generating negativity. I have zero tolerance for such garbage. Life's too short to indulge in negative energy, behavior or thoughts, especially in extra curricular activities that are meant to be pleasurable. There are too many negative situations and circumstances in life that we can't avoid. We don't need to put up with it here--in a forum that is meant for everyone's enjoyment and pleasure. <br
And, I have zero tolerance for any homophobic bull@#%$. What decade is this? I'm gay and I'm damn proud of who I am. I spent too many years feeling ashamed because of ignorant and hateful people. Then I woke up and realized that the ignorant and hateful people had the problem, not me. <br
When I was younger, I too was embarrassed by some of the more outrageous personalities in our "community." And, then I grew up and realized it was only my own internalized homophobia that caused my embarrassment. I learned that the people I cared about would and will judge me based on my actions and behavior. And, as Robert wrote above... equality is not the same as conformity. After all, that's one of the basic rights upon which this country was founded--the freedom to be individuals. It always amazes me and strikes me as utterly hypocritical that we--as a country--simultaneously pride ourselves on our basic rights to be free and individuals, yet some who claim to be the most patriotic do not accept segments of our population that don't conform to their interpretation of the "norm"; how utterly ironic. Maybe this is an appropriate reminder with July 4th just around the corner.
 

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